~pcwiz Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Hi,My specs are below in my signature. I am using an ATI Radeon X1650 Pro 512MB PCIe card with OS X and I have installed the Natit X1600 Drivers as well. My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 740N 17". Apparently, according to OS X, Quartz Extreme and Core Image are not supported. Pic from System Profiler: Why? I have already installed the Natit X1600 series drivers for my card. Without QE/CI, I can't do anyting (iMovie, etc.) Is there any patch or anything I have to load? PLEEZ help. Thanks in advance pcwiz EDIT: ]I just also tried enabling the QE/CI for my video card using this file in this post: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=412418 I am really not willing to flash the BIOS on my card. Isn't there a software based solution? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 I also tried the modbin fix. It screwed up OS X and it won't boot so I reinstalled. What do I do? Mac OS X is no use without QE/CI. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedragon1971 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Sorry, I really don't know much about getting it working on ATI or nVidia chipsets, I've only ever used OSx86 on Intel GMA900 and GMA950. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 I messaged a lot of people I know asking for help so if you don't know about it, no worries. You tried to help :censored2: EDIT: I thought of another idea: Is there anyway to bypass the QE/IE detection on iMovie, etc. so I can run the apps without actually having QE/CI? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 install again but this time do not choose Natit in the installation and then follow Modbin guide. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixos Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 sent you a link to an installer i use for mine. check your messages. let me know how it comes out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 OK, after reading blacknights post, It seems I am supposed to install without Natit drivers and then install the package right? Installed the package with the Natit drivers installed and it screwed up OS X. OS X hanged at Login Window Application Started. So Install without Natit drivers and then install x1650 package? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixos Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 what is the device id for your card? mine is 0x71c6 Type: Display Bus: PCIe VRAM (Total): 512 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID: 0x71c6 Revision ID: 0x0000 Displays: Philips 170B2: Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz Depth: 32-bit Color Core Image: Supported Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Rotation: Supported i can see your device id from the pic you posted, but are you sure that is the correct id? p.s. it's late for me Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 People, if you can't even modify ATIRadeonx1000.kext and add your own product id in it, don't even bother to install Leopard I mean... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-451681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Mines is 0x71C1 Apparently the instructions in this thread: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=52826&st=0 are supposed to enable QE/CI. But the thing is, as soon as I install Modbin x1650-8.9.1.zip, my OS X wont boot anymore. It hangs at Login Window Application Started. The modbin fix is only for 0x71c6 but in the instructions in the above thread, there are fixes to enable it on 0x71c1. But then again, I installed the modbin package WITH Natit X1600 drivers installed so am I supposed to remove the Natit drivers and then install the package? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-452125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 21, 2007 Author Share Posted September 21, 2007 I got a message saying to add my device ID to ATIRadeonX1000.kext to get QE/CI to work. How do you do this? Could someone please prepatch the X1000 kext file and add this video card device id: 0x71c1 Or can someone tell me how to add the device id myself? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-452188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 copy ATIRadeonX1000.kext to your desktop then right click on it and choose show content after that open info.plist or what ever it is called in the text editor go to the node where is has "match" in the name under it you will find several device ids put yours there and then save and copy ATIRadeonX1000.kext back to the extensions folder and repair permissions note : make a copy of ATIRadeonX1000.kext before you play with it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-452373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asapreta Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Does the same method works for a X1550? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-452479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmatose Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 When I get home and have access to my desktop machine, Ill doctor up some kexts for you to try... I abandoned my x1600 prematurely and found some things to test after the fact. If you would like to try them, send me a pm. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-452504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'll try to modify the kext myself once I have access to my Hackint0sh.Oh yeah and karmatose, I PMed you and emailed you to tell that I wanted the kexts. If you can get them, that would be great but if not, I think I can do it myself.I found this method on a thread: Ok people, this is a reply to you & any other person that wants to follow my method and see what can come out of it...I suggest you install first modbin's X1650 package, reboot, select the desired resolution, and get ready to modify the files.Get a Hex Editor, i suggest 0xED (Yes, this is the name of the Hex Editor Program).Copy files "ATIRadeonX1000.kext","ATIRadeonX1000GA.plugin","ATIRadeonX1000GLDriver.bundle" from /System/Library/Extensions on your desktop.1) Show contents of "ATIRadeonX1000.kext", go into /Contents/MacOSX and hex edit "ATIRadeonX1000" binary file. Replace *every* occurence of C071 with your Device ID (Example, my Device ID in reality is 0x71C1 so in the file i'll write it as C171). Save the modified file. In the same .kext edit "Info.plist" file with TextEdit and replace the *only* 0x71C01002 entry with yours. In my case it is 0x71C11002.2) Show contents of "ATIRadeonX1000GA.plugin", edit "Info.plist" with TextEdit, and you will see 2 strings in the following format: 100271C0-0000-0000-0000-000a27898d3e. Again replace the 71C0 with your Device ID on both. Save the file.3) Show contents of "ATIRadeonX1000GLDriver.bundle", hex edit the binary inside /Contents/MacOSX and replace C071 entries with your own, just like you did on step (1). Save the file.Drag n drop those 3 files form your desktop into /System/Library/Extensions (Authenticate & Replace).Open Terminal:sudo -schmod -f 755 /System/Library/Extensionschown root:wheel /System/Library/Extensionsdiskutil repairPermissions /reboot*** That's all, hopefully it will work for many people.From my experience before doing that, install modbin's package, or else you will get Mouse Tearing.Do I really have to edit these binaries or could I just add the device id as blacknight said? Also, it says to install modbins package before, I have Natit X1600 installed so would that be OK? Need some clarifications. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-454156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy2410 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 It sounds like you need to get rid of the Natit drivers first and then install the new one. I really don't know as I don't have experience with ati or nVidia drivers at all. Alot of this stuff is trial and error. Take some advise and try it and see what happens. If it doesn't work try something else until you get it to work. Chevy Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-454187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 OK, I'll try removing the Natit drivers and installing modbin. But how do I uninstall the drivers? I already have the Natit installed. Do I just go into System/Library/Extensions/ and delete natit.kext? EDIT: I'll try adding the device id first because its easier Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-454227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 I added the device id to ATIRadeonX1000.kext and I've replaced the file. Now I'm gonna reboot and see if it works Hopefully it will.EDIT: I added the following device id to the kext. I hope its correct:0x71C11002Well, I rebooted and I got a kernel panic with X1000.kext. Luckily, I made a backup of the file so I restored that but that still doesn't solve the QE/CI problem. So, I'm going to *gulp* remove the Natit drivers and install the Modbin package.I'm installing the packages through VMware....OK, I backed up Extensions and I installed Modbin...The VM has rebooted. Darn..It froze and the CPU halted. Looks like I'll have to return the USB drive. Nothings working. I can keep the drive for another 2 weeks or so until my warranty period expires so I backed up all the extensions before Modbin so how can I restore them? I can boot into single user mode. Never mind all the crud above. I GOT IT TO WORK. The story: I removed Natit and installed Modbin via VMware to my USB drive. Then VMware rebooted and I got kernel panics so I though it was screwed. Then, just by coincidence, I booted it natively with Modbin w/o VMware and it booted! Then I applied the kozlowski fix for my graphics card and now QE/CI is supported! So, instructions: 1) Remove all video card Natit drivers (delete NatitX1600.kext from System/Library/Extensions) 2) Follow the instructions on this thread: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=52826&st=0 And you're done! In addition to QE and CI working, the machine seems to be faster, and removing the Natit drivers seemed to cut a few seconds off the loading time! Anyway, problem solved. Thanks to everyone who posted here and to modbin and kozlowski for the fixes. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-454622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 I just wanted to say another thing: Once you install modbin, you lose a useful feature: The ability to boot your OS X installation using VMware. You're probably asking why you would want to boot a native install using VMware but the answer is that VMware is the most useful tool for troubleshooting OS X when it wont boot. If you've added a new extension or a kernel and your OS X won't boot, chances are you could boot using VMware and reverse the damage. This method has gotten me out of countless reinstalls of OS X. But, once you install modbin, VMware doesn't like it so you can't boot your native OS X install using VMware. Just wanted to let you know Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-454691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 Oh yeah and another thing, this doesn't really matter but the Chipset: Radeon X1600 Series doesn't appear anymore in System Profiler after applying the fix. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/63797-qeci-not-supported/#findComment-455626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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