kontroversy Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hey guys, I have an hp dv9000 laptop; Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0ghz, 2GB Ram, 512mb GeForce 7600, 2x160GB SATA HDD's. As you can see I have two hard drives, I have windows vista installed and working on the first hdd. On the second i have successfully installed 10.4.9 (uphuck). But I havent been able to boot to OSX, there is no option to boot it from the boot menu. Does anyone know what I can do? I removed the hdd's and saw no jumpers. I dont remember installing a bootloader from uphuck either... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubswinfllclssic Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 From what I've read, and from my own experience trying to boot from separate hard drives, it can't be done unless (for some strange reason) your BIOS supports booting from a second hard drive. Even with the most sophisticated Dell BIOS in the world, I can't boot to a second hard drive unless one is SATA and the other is IDE . I would recommend re-partitioning and dual-booting a single drive with multiple partitons. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontroversy Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 They seem to be doing it with ubuntu no problems. Im going to try it out. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJMoose Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Are you able to change the order of your boot drives in the bios? Does that boot you into OSX86? That will at least tell you that the HD is bootable the way you have it formatted. Then it's just a matter of getting a bootloader to work for you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontroversy Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 Do you have a recommended bootloader and a guide to installing it? Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meeyotch Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Kontro, I have a dv9000 and it would not allow me to Dual boot from the second drive. i deleted the recovery partition, shrank the windows partition, and use the second hard drive as storage. If you want to try it with a bootloader, I'd go with SuperGRUB (thats what I use when my boot options go screwy). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontroversy Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 Im booting Ubuntu from the second HDD with GRUB no problem. Trying to boot OSX from the same drive is getting tricky. I am going to try a few more things out then check out SuperGRUB. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontroversy Posted August 25, 2007 Author Share Posted August 25, 2007 how did you get supergrub to work with the osx? Sorry I couldn't get it working, typing from iPhone LOL Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilliamo Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Hey guys, I have an hp dv9000 laptop; Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0ghz, 2GB Ram, 512mb GeForce 7600, 2x160GB SATA HDD's. As you can see I have two hard drives, I have windows vista installed and working on the first hdd. On the second i have successfully installed 10.4.9 (uphuck). But I havent been able to boot to OSX, there is no option to boot it from the boot menu. Does anyone know what I can do? I removed the hdd's and saw no jumpers. I dont remember installing a bootloader from uphuck either... Use EasyBCD; <http://www.snapfiles.com/get/easybcd.html>. Not sure why HP chooses not to include the option of switching boot drives in BIOS, but the excellent and free EasyBCD solves this elegantly on our dual-drive HP DV9xxx laptops! I also find it far simpler & less troublesome to have my Vista (or XP) drive formatted with a single NTFS partition, and my OSX drive formatted with a single HFS+ partition. G =============================== Hackintosh Laptop HP DV9230US 17" widescreen @ 1440 by 900 1.66 GHz Core2Duo NVIDIA Go7600 256MB 2GB DDR2 RAM 2X 250GB (233GB Formatted) WD SATA WD2500BEVS Hard Drives Vista Ultimate on first HDD, formatted NTFS OSX86 10.4.10 (Uphuck 10.4.9 1.4iR3 followed by KoolKal 10.4.10 updater) on second HDD, formatted HFS+ & MBR Darwin Kernel 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; Sochi2014:VoteForUs/RELEASE_I386 EasyBCD BootLoader XBench 1.3: 109.19 Working: Sleep; QE/CI/Rotation, iLife08, iWork08, Built-in speakers, Camera/PhotoBooth, Dell 1490 RevA02 Mini-PCIE (recognized as Airport Extreme) Not working: Sound in/out other than built-in speakers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-434908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I downloaded your suggested EasyBCD from the link. How do you configure it to boot the separate HD. I am trying to get my HP Pavilion dv9000 to boot. I have Uphuck's 10.4.9 installed on a seperate physical HD, and Vista on the other. With the HP laptop you can hold F9 during boot to load the boot menu, but all you get for boot options are whichever HD is in bay 1. The bios doesn't give you the option to boot a HD from bay 2. So I guess I would just like to know how I set up EasyBCD to boot the bay 2 drive so I don't have to swap them out each time. My lappy specs are as follows: I wolud love if I could get sound, wirless internet working, and a higher screen resolution. From what I've read it seems my graphics card will be hard to make that happen. Laptop Model: HP Pavilion dv9500 Bios Version: F.12 Processor Type: T7500 Core2Duo 2.2GHZ Sound REaltek High Definition Audio Device ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01VEN_10ECDEV_0268SUBSYS_103C30CCREV_1000\4257318AE00001 Network Card 1 (wired) Realtek RTL8168/8111 Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) Wireless Intel® Wirless WiFi Link 4965AGN Video 512 MBytes NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-436063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilliamo Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I downloaded your suggested EasyBCD from the link. How do you configure it to boot the separate HD. I am trying to get my HP Pavilion dv9000 to boot. I have Uphuck's 10.4.9 installed on a seperate physical HD, and Vista on the other. With the HP laptop you can hold F9 during boot to load the boot menu, but all you get for boot options are whichever HD is in bay 1. The bios doesn't give you the option to boot a HD from bay 2. So I guess I would just like to know how I set up EasyBCD to boot the bay 2 drive so I don't have to swap them out each time. Sorry, I'm away from my laptop, so I can't give you detailed specifics til tomorrow, but you should be 99% there on dual boot. Our machines are different enough that I can't give advice on ethernet, wireless or video. Like you, I initially swapped drives to get OSX running...that is the hard part. Now put your Vista drive back in "bay 1" and your OSX drive in "bay 2". Now you should be able to boot into Vista & run EasyBCD. There will be a menu option for setting up dual boot, and even gives Mac OSX as an option. Once you reboot, you'll get a menu that allows you to select which OS to boot to. I DID have chain0 on my Vista drive before running EasyBCD, but that may not have been necessary. More later if this sketchy version does not work for you. G Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-436318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Hi Guilliamo, Thank you for your follow up. I do not see where to choose an option to have OSX boot up. I see my boot manager, but made no changes. I don't want to do something that would cause a crash, and not sure what to edit to promt me to allow boot from bay 2 (OSX) The only thing in the BSD app that I can see that mentions OSX is in the Diagnostic Utility sub program from the main menu. If you don't mind helping me with a step by step of what to do or point me to where I might find one I'd be much obliged. Thanks for the help! -Nucci Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-436753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilliamo Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Hi Guilliamo, Thank you for your follow up. I do not see where to choose an option to have OSX boot up. I see my boot manager, but made no changes. I don't want to do something that would cause a crash, and not sure what to edit to promt me to allow boot from bay 2 (OSX) The only thing in the BSD app that I can see that mentions OSX is in the Diagnostic Utility sub program from the main menu. If you don't mind helping me with a step by step of what to do or point me to where I might find one I'd be much obliged. Thanks for the help! -Nucci Nucci: For some reasom I'm having trouble uploading a picture ?? When you start up EasyBCD (in Vista), select "Add/Remove Entries" and you'll get a dialogue box that should show your existing "Microsoft Windows Vista' install AND an "Add an Entry' pane. In that pane select " Mac OS X" and then " generic x86 PC" as the platform. My OSX86 install then showed up as "NST Mac OS X". Once I clicked the "Add Entry" button, "NST Mac OS X" showed up in the upper pane as an "Existing Entry". I rebooted and the rest is history. Again I DID already have chain0 in Vista, which MAY be necessary for easyBCD to work its magic. Will try a picture again tomorrow! G Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-436797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilliamo Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Nucci: For some reasom I'm having trouble uploading a picture ?? When you start up EasyBCD (in Vista), select "Add/Remove Entries" and you'll get a dialogue box that should show your existing "Microsoft Windows Vista' install AND an "Add an Entry' pane. In that pane select " Mac OS X" and then " generic x86 PC" as the platform. My OSX86 install then showed up as "NST Mac OS X". Once I clicked the "Add Entry" button, "NST Mac OS X" showed up in the upper pane as an "Existing Entry". I rebooted and the rest is history. Again I DID already have chain0 in Vista, which MAY be necessary for easyBCD to work its magic. Will try a picture again tomorrow! G OK: I just confirmed that NO previous install of chain0 is needed; This dialogue box from Easy BCD does it all. Here is the snip: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-437059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 BAD ASS!! Dude that was so easy, yet so awesome, and so much less agrivation. A million thank you's my firend. Now I just need to get sound, internet (wireless, and wired), and screen resolution fixed. One day I hope to get CI, and QE working too, but have read of that not being possible with my graphics card yet. Many thanks again. -Nucci Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-437459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilliamo Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 BAD ASS!! Dude that was so easy, yet so awesome, and so much less agrivation. A million thank you's my firend. Now I just need to get sound, internet (wireless, and wired), and screen resolution fixed. One day I hope to get CI, and QE working too, but have read of that not being possible with my graphics card yet. Many thanks again. -Nucci Nucci: Great! It seems to me that Easy BCD eliminates the need for about a thousand posts & many more lines of code on this board in a most elegant manner ! Tackling your other issues one at a time, wrt wired internet (ethernet) have you tried the OSX (Intel) drivers dated 23 Aug 2007 at <http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false> ?? (scroll all the way down on that web page) G Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-437471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Cool, I will give that a shot, and you're absolutely right. No need for overhacking. Your solution worked beutifully. One thing i noticed when booting in and out of OSX, when I revert to vista (where I am now) The clock is thrown off, and about a half a day ahead, any idea why this happens?thanks for the tip on the internet driver. I'll check that out now, and see where it gets me. I'll post my follow up. Thanks again for all your help.-NucciFRIG SWEET! That worked man, totally awesome, Thanks again for another tip. Gonna go update my signature now. I can taste wireless, and sound around the corner, and have renewed optomism!I gotta get to bed though. I've been up way too late and draggin ass at work.-Nucci Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-437478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilliamo Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Cool, I will give that a shot, and you're absolutely right. No need for overhacking. Your solution worked beutifully. One thing i noticed when booting in and out of OSX, when I revert to vista (where I am now) The clock is thrown off, and about a half a day ahead, any idea why this happens?thanks for the tip on the internet driver. I'll check that out now, and see where it gets me. I'll post my follow up. Thanks again for all your help.-NucciFRIG SWEET! That worked man, totally awesome, Thanks again for another tip. Gonna go update my signature now. I can taste wireless, and sound around the corner, and have renewed optomism!I gotta get to bed though. I've been up way too late and draggin ass at work.-Nucci Nucci: The time issue, as I understand it, results from a difference in the way Windows/Vista & OSX calculate local time wrt the computer's clock chip. While I'm sure that it is theoretically possible to patch one of the two operating systems to resolve this, I do not know that it has been done. The fix I use is to set both system to set local time from an internet time server...this works fine as long as you have an internet connection. You may want to search this forum to see if there is anything more available. From your sig, it looks like you know how to solve your sound & wireless issues with external devices (based on your desktop experience). You may not find anything better for your HP laptop. I'm using a Dell mini-pcie wireless card, which works great, but requires patching the BIOS to bypass HP's "whitelist" of authorized HP wireless cards. Your newer machine uses a different BIOS, which almost certainly has a similar whitelist, and COULD be patched if you are clever enough. See <http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=31474&view=findpost&p=339537>. Not sure about video...seems to be a matter of the 512MB laptop video cards being much more problematic than the otherwise similar 256MB cards. G =============================== Hackintosh Laptop HP DV9230US 17" widescreen @ 1440 by 900 1.66 GHz Core2Duo NVIDIA Go7600 256MB 2GB DDR2 RAM 2X 250GB (233GB Formatted) WD SATA WD2500BEVS Hard Drives Vista Ultimate on first HDD, formatted NTFS OSX86 10.4.10 (Uphuck 10.4.9 1.4iR3 followed by KoolKal 10.4.10 updater) on second HDD, formatted HFS+ & MBR Darwin Kernel 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; Sochi2014:VoteForUs/RELEASE_I386 EasyBCD BootLoader XBench 1.3: 109.19 Working: Sleep; QE/CI/Rotation, iLife08, iWork08, Built-in speakers, Camera/PhotoBooth, Dell 1490 RevA02 Mini-PCIE (recognized as Airport Extreme) Not working: Sound in/out other than built-in speakers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-437812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Thank you for all the tips you have provided. I would like to have the sound, and wireless working from native rather than external USB hardware as I hope to make this a true functional laptop. I have found some hopeful info about my graphics card. It appears that the new MAC book PRO uses the same card. People are working on it, in fact I found a whole post without about 140+ replies about it so I have hopes for a future working driver. Sound, and wireless I hope are do-able. I just can't wait until my HP aka: Hackbook Pro is working to the fullest of it's ability. Until then! -Nucci Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-438071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omikronz Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Anyone know if having the drive with OSX on it formatted as GUID would cause a problem with this method? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/61254-booting-from-seperate-hard-drives/#findComment-913333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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