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janderson7715
janderson7715
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9/11 was an "inside job".

 

The public has been mislead to believe that some 19 arabs armed with razor blades carried the attack which lead to the destruction of World Trade Center.

 

This is a lie.

 

There are a number of documentaries which prove beyond any doubt that the World Trade Center was destroyed by bombs going off in the buildings and that the Pentagon was hit by something other than a airplane, like a cruise missle.

 

The purpose of this thread is to notify the OSx86 community of the truth and present this evidence to support it.

 

A decent place to start is by watching Loose Change on Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

 

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cringemaster
cringemaster
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Ok... now we are getting somewhere. I used to believe the official story as well, but then I learned the horrible truth that 9/11 was an inside job. We have been lied too and this is extremely serious matter.

 

To really get to the point quickly, this video proves in great technical detail by highly credible people that the World Trade Center towers were brought down by controlled demolitions:

 

http://blip.tv/file/306082/

I would like to debate this, but not here. Wanna make a thread in the real life forum?

cringemaster
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So far Im about half way through that other video you posted, and while it is impressive, I think the lecturer is using alot of his own opinion. The only thing that has me thinking a little bit is the thermite spheres. I can understand people mistrusting the government, but I really do think the towers were taken down by hijacked airplanes, and that the pentagon was hit by a plane.

bofors
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Bah, I'm over 9/11, and I'm sure a lot of the world is.Who cares if the Bush admistration lied to us? We know they lie all time anyway.He'll be gone soon, and all this'll be a bad memory...
Ok, let's talk about why this matters for a second:

 

(1) Some 2700 people died in the attacks on 9/11.

 

(2) 9/11 is the pretext to the invasion of Iraq and oppressive anti-terrorism laws like the Patriot Act in the USA.

 

(3) Freedom requires us that we question the official version of major events, otherwise we will get lied too and manipulated (note the "mushroom theory" of political science: to control people kept them in the dark and feed them {censored}).

 

You're kidding. Take your stupid conspiracy theories and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
No, I am very serious about this and just spent about four months in jail because of the issue.

 

Why do you think my "theory" is stupid? Please be specific. Let's debate...

 

So far Im about half way through that other video you posted, and while it is impressive, I think the lecturer is using alot of his own opinion. The only thing that has me thinking a little bit is the thermite spheres. I can understand people mistrusting the government...

 

Just so every knows... this video is Richard Gage, Architect - "How The Towers Fell" - Complete 2 Hour Presentation at the University of Manitoba (Canada):

 

http://blip.tv/file/306082/

 

It is the best technically analysis which proves beyond any doubt that the World Trade Center (WTC), which includes not only the twin towers but building 7 (47 stories), were in fact demolished.

 

... but I really do think the towers were taken down by hijacked airplanes, and that the pentagon was hit by a plane.

 

Sure... and I thought the same thing until size months ago. That is why am I here trying to spread the truth on this very serious issue.

 

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cringemaster
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There was one little tidbit that was covered by Richard Gage on the other video that people always have a misconception about: office fires and jet fuel fires. I have no idea what the temperatures are for an average office fire fueled by paper and furniture are, and I have no idea what the average jet fuel burns at, but I can guess there is a vast difference between them. As far as explosion sounds go, Im thinking it was the sound of steel I-beams breaking and shearing apart. Planted explosives are too far fetched.

 

And that idea that a missle was shot into the pentagon is just... stupid. A missile wouldve done a lot more damage, and a tail fin wouldnt be visible afterwards.

 

But building 7 was always strange to me, but considering the amount of collateral damage it sustained from being directly next to one of the falling towers, its not suprising it fell.

bofors
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There are lots of videos which expose the truth of 9/11, I watched most of them.

 

Here are the best ones:

 

(1) "9/11 Mysteries" by Brad Waddell

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=0

 

(2) Richard Gage, AIA, Architect - "How The Towers Fell" - Complete 2 Hour Presentation:

 

http://www.911blogger.com/node/10025

 

(3) "9/11 The Myth and the Reality": Lecture by Dr. David Ray Griffin:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...h&plindex=6

 

(4) "Painful Deceptions" by Eric Hufschmidt

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=13...h&plindex=0

 

(5) "Loose Change" 2nd Ed.:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=78...h&plindex=1

 

 

There was one little tidbit that was covered by Richard Gage on the other video that people always have a misconception about: office fires and jet fuel fires. I have no idea what the temperatures are for an average office fire fueled by paper and furniture are, and I have no idea what the average jet fuel burns at, but I can guess there is a vast difference between them. As far as explosion sounds go, Im thinking it was the sound of steel I-beams breaking and shearing apart. Planted explosives are too far fetched.

 

And that idea that a missle was shot into the pentagon is just... stupid. A missile wouldve done a lot more damage, and a tail fin wouldnt be visible afterwards.

 

But building 7 was always strange to me, but considering the amount of collateral damage it sustained from being directly next to one of the falling towers, its not suprising to me.

 

I want to deal with these issues one at time, but I want to start with the World Trade Center (WTC) building 7 because that is the most obvious problem with the officially story about 9/11.

 

Building 7 collapsing on 9/11:

 

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Once people understand that the US government has historically engaged in terrorism, they are much more open to accepting the truth of 9/1. So, before I get into the technical details regarding building 7, it helps to understand the history of "false flag" operations. "False flag" operations are what agencies like the CIA and Israel's Mossad do to start wars.

 

Alex Jones recent movie "TerrorStorm" starts with a nice history of "false flag" operations: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947

 

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tha_toadman
tha_toadman
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bofors,

 

It's been awhile but you know something, I have an objective mindset about 9/11 and you know something else that makes a guy scratch his head...the US Air Force I believe was in Canada playing some 'war games' during the attacks.

 

I even recall watching an IMAX (or SuperScreen) film of these games too. Here's a quick link I pulled up...

 

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

 

Kind of makes one wonder.

cringemaster
cringemaster
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yes i did watch that video, and while i found most of it compelling, the person who was narrating sounded very closed-minded. :2cents:

EDIT: what did u go to jail for, i thought that was kinda the point of america..

Yeah he did sound very close minded and objective, but there were some things in there that were interesting to me, but not enough so to make me think its a conspiracy. Alot of the scientific and engineering oddities mostly.

(And whats this I hear about jail and the cia?)

bxsci(macuser)
bxsci(macuser)
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if it wassnt by arab terrorists why was a video of the towers falling sold all around the middle east and why does osama bin laden claim to be the attacker... his life would be so much easier if he didnt do it - bc then he could take care of that kidney :2cents:

cabron
cabron
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crazy documentaries man

 

i remember the years ago, this time in my country i didn't go out to work and when i wake up and turned on my television i saw what happened, so don't believe in that i change the channel (same), keeping changing the damn channel till see this was happened. My familiy and my self got shocked.

 

In the last month i saw a documentary (dunno if its old or not) from discovery, dude its so sad

there are any better versions (i mean, some dvdrip or better quality xvid? :2cents: )

 

i just love documentaries and september eleven is aways a mistery, i remember some pictures showing a large whole in the pentagon building (not really large that caused by a f***king big plane), but it's so weird

 

About Bush i preffer don't comment about this person.

 

anyway... having more stuff about, please post

ill keeping track this topic.

bofors
bofors
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Loony-toons is back on our screens. :2cents:

How did you get out?

 

Anyway jokes aside I'll read this thread some other time. May be interesting. Just watch out for the CIA parked outside your house. :P

 

EDIT: what did u go to jail for, i thought that was kinda the point of america..

 

EDIT: what did u go to jail for, i thought that was kinda the point of america..

 

I want to keep this thread on the topic of 9/11. However, the CIA had me arrested on March 16 and they tried to prosecute me as a "terrorist" under the USA "Patriot Act".

 

So, I want to continue this thread by talking about World Trade Center (WTC) building 7 (whose tenants happen to include the CIA). This website by Jim Hoffman covers the topic exclusively: http://www.wtc7.net/

 

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Numberzz
Numberzz
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I want to keep this thread on the topic of 9/11. However, the CIA had me arrested on March 16 and they tried to prosecute me as a "terrorist" under the USA "Patriot Act".

huh, the patriot act, only being signed 45 days after 9/11 sounds like a law that keeps people, like you, from trying to say that it is a conspiracy :2cents: i know

Headrush69
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Believe what you want, I don't really care, but I do find it amusing that all we hear is how incompetent the Bush administration is, yet now you would have us believe they are clever enough to devise this 9/11 scheme and fool most of the population.

 

Why bother with the Pentagon, or the United flight?

If they knew the towers would collapse, did they think that wouldn't be enough to compel the country to war?

bofors
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Building 7 was 47 stories tall, opened in 1987 and the last building of the World Trade Complex to be constructed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

 

Larry Silverstein originally developed Building 7 and he signed a 99 year lease the twin towers about eight months before 9/11. Silverstein made about 7 billion dollars on 9/11 by insurance payouts and admitted on PBS that Building 7 in fact demolished: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

 

Here is a list of Building 7's tenants by Jim Hoffman based on an article published by the New York Times:

 

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In addition to the CIA, there a few other things in Building 7 that are of interest here. First of all Solomon is here, which is why the BBC refers to this as the "Salamon Bros. Building" which I will mention later. More importantly, the City of New York emergency command center was on the 23'rd floor. It had bomb-proof windows and its own air and water supplies.

bofors
bofors
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Building 7 sustained light damaged from the collapse World Trade Building 1, the North Tower:

 

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Some fires broke out in Building 7:

 

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Reference 911research: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc7.html

 

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Then for no apparent reason,

Building 7 collapses at about 5:20 pm:

 

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There are several videos of Buiding 7 collapsing, this is appears to be a good compilation of them all: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...h&plindex=2

 

EDIT: Here is a video which exclusively focuses on Building 7, "Never hit by a plane": http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2147329422984355159

 

Building 7 obviously looks like it is being demolished, but let's go through the physical evidence that proves it (and then later the evidence which shows there was conspiracy to do it). The evidence starts with the fact that the center of Building 7 collapses first which is evidence by the formation of the "kink" clearly seen below:

 

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Paranoid Marvin
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I'm sorry, but no skyscraper is perfect.

 

A very hot fire can cause the structural integrity of steel to fail easily.

Because of the way many sky scrapers are designed, 1 fail point can bring down the whole building.

 

Also, tbph, I don't care who took down the twin towers. It was 6 years ago now.

Do we have to dwel in the past forever?

macprodan
macprodan
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It was and is in the past yes, does that mean it dont matter.? So many of your fellow people died, and are still for what.?

 

Perhaps that why so many people think americans are dumb and ignorant as to the cause and to the reason why this happend, or that you simply dont care.

 

You lot need to wake up and see the truth, and stop being pussys and start confronting the government.

 

Freedom and Freedom of speech is gone for Americans and the West, id rather live in the jungle as long as it has wireless.. hehe

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