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Probably I'm posting on wrong sub-forum, but I'm concerned how InsanelyMac handles private massages? 

 

Do moderators read private messages of users?

 

Whats the policy about users privacy on using private messages feature? 

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Hi

 

First of all, PM is meaning 'Personal Message', not 'Private Message'. They're not private, they're personal. An example of a personal message would be when I send you a 'Hi dude!! How are you going?'. As you can see, there's nothing private. The private thing would be when I'm talking you about my last holidays and want to share you some photos. These things are private. But honestly, I would never using the site message feature to share private things, I have my email for these purposes. But it is up to everyone to determine what they think is personal and what is private and the way they want to handle with that.

 

Now about you asking if moderators do read personal messages of users - The site is using Invision Community forum software which includes a feature that allows admin level users ONLY to get direct (and whole) access to an user account, so yes, a such kind of higher-level moderator can read personal messages of users. Now the question of whether he does it, it's impossible to know, unless the members of the site have been warned. On some sites, the administrator requests permissions from members, while others do not. But why a moderator would do such kind of things (read personal messages of users)? In most cases, to track potential spammers, or someone has reported spam in their inbox. Another special case is when a user reports that he/she no longer has access to his/her account and to check it, the administrator can access his/her account. In this kind of case, the account works very well, the problem is very often on the user's side (wrong login name and/or password). But unfortunately, there is also the dark side of this feature, especially when it is about a malicious moderator. In this case, you just have to avoid this kind of site.

 

Yes, it's ok but how to know if the moderators of InsanelyMac read personal messages of users? In theory, there's no way but as already said, this feature is allowed ONLY to an admin-level user and  here at InsanelyMac, the moderators do not have such kind of higher-level.  ;)

 

BR

 

fantomas

 

 

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Thank you for explaining!

 

I used private as opposite of public. Forums posts are public, personal messages private. 
 

At my point of view it’s unethical by admin’s / moderator”s to read personal messages as these are not meant for them. The only exception might be some kind harassment, we’re one side asks for help. 
 

There is another forum (*ony*acx86.com) where I tried to reach a person via PM. That’s what happened few minutes later.

 

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You have been banned for the following reason: Disregard of Forum Policies on private communications asking for help.. Your ban will be lifted on Jan 10, 2020 at 10:00 AM.


I never in my life haven’t encountered a such thing in any forums before. 
 

I”m shocked that they read all personal messages!! 
 

I wanted to make sure what’s the policy here, that’s why I asked. I did not find anything specific about the matter on privacy rules.

 

Thank you for explaining!

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On most European countries is actually reading personal messages without clear permission of messaging sides a criminal act, regardless how easy it’s technically to access these messages.

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Seems that reading personal messages not legal in US either.

 

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The Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) [18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521, 2701-2710], which was signed into law in 1986, amended the Federal Wiretap Act to account for the increasing amount of communications and data transferred and stored on computer systems. The ECPA protects against the unlawful interceptions of any wire communications--whether it's telephone or cell phone conversations, voicemail, email, and other data sent over the wires. The ECPA also includes protections for messages that are stored--email messages that are archived on servers, for instance. Now, under the law, unauthorized access to computer messages, whether in transit or in storage, is a federal crime.

 

There is a clause in the ECPA, however, that permits employees at an internet service provider (ISP) to read the messages in order to maintain service or to immure the provider itself from damage. For example, if an ISP suspects that a virus is being disseminated via its systems, it has a right to intercept messages to determine whether its service is, indeed, a carrier of a virus. 


I don’t see that reading everyone’s personal messages is normal part of service.

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This is pretty serious breach of trust, let alone how do  admins have time to trawl thru private messages when there are far more pressing tasks....

 

fix the damn out of date SSL certificates

 

do something about the spammers

 

 

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4 minutes ago, UefiBooter said:

fix the damn out of date SSL certificates


Outdated SSL is annoying and on some browsers even nightmare.

Common name: insanelymac.com
SANs: insanelymac.com, www.insanelymac.com
Valid from September 3, 2019 to December 2, 2019
Serial Number: 03db50db56f9034eb9dfcb523f0f79577c5f
Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
Issuer: Let's Encrypt Authority X3

Seems that automatic free Let's Encrypt certification update doesn’t work. This shouldn’t be hard to fix.

 

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