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7 hours ago, telepati said:
[mention=1303722]arsradu[/mention] Does OpenCore have a positive effect on this glitch?

Not that I know of. I tested some of the previous versions. But no...in my experience, it didn't make any difference.
 

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Hi @Slice

 

About what you said above about MacOS emulating 10-bit color depth on 8-bit monitors.

 

So...Windows can set 10-bit color depth...but MacOS can't...? I'm not sure I understand. And...how is Windows doing it, if the monitor can't do 10-bit colors? I'm so confused. :))

 

I'm assuming the issue here is the switch from 8-bit to 10-bit. But...if it comes with 8-bit from BIOS, and if the monitor doesn't do "real" 10-bit (mine says "10-bit (8-bit+FRC)"; so I'm guessing that's not real 10-bit, so that's why this happens...?)), can we make it stay 8-bit in the OS, as well?

 

What's happening when there is no flashing at all? Is the OS not pushing 10-bit anymore...? Or how is it possible that, with the same hardware, sometimes it flashes and sometimes it doesn't?

 

 

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Actually I realized something when I got a 4K monitor. At the moment when this white flash happens it is cutting the signal of the video card for a millisecond then connect back and boot the hack. If this signal lost not happen I think this white flash won't happen.

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7 minutes ago, telepati said:

Actually I realized something when I got a 4K monitor. At the moment when this white flash happens it is cutting the signal of the video card for a millisecond then connect back and boot the hack. If this signal lost not happen I think this white flash won't happen.

 

ok...but why doesn't it always happen? Whatever it is. Why doesn't it always happen?

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Hi @Slice ! :) 

 

Is the Inject EDID feature working properly in Clover...? Is there any way to test that?

 

Cause...I extracted my EDID from Windows, edited it in MacOS using AW EDID Editor (set it to 8-bit instead of 10-bit) and added the resulted data into Clover under Custom EDID. Aaand...MacOS seems to ignore that. Still wants to use 10-bit. Ooor...maybe Inject Edid function doesn't really work right now? Which would also explain the lack of changes in my tests with different values of HorizontalSyncPulseWidth.

 

 

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4 hours ago, arsradu said:

 

ok...but why doesn't it always happen? Whatever it is. Why doesn't it always happen?

 

Exactly. Why this signal lost happening? Signal loss, give a white flash and come back and continue boot. No any sign on verbose btw. Also boot log doesnt give any clue. This is the most annoying problem.

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9 hours ago, telepati said:

 

Exactly. Why this signal lost happening? Signal loss, give a white flash and come back and continue boot. No any sign on verbose btw. Also boot log doesnt give any clue. This is the most annoying problem.

 

I meant...why doesn't the flash always happen? Cause it doesn't. It doesn't always flash. But it does flash 99% of the times.

 

If it's the same cause, why isn't the same effect all the times?

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12 hours ago, arsradu said:

 

I meant...why doesn't the flash always happen? Cause it doesn't. It doesn't always flash. But it does flash 99% of the times.

 

If it's the same cause, why isn't the same effect all the times?

 

But, it does always happening to me. :cry:

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An interesting fact. It doesn't occur if the display is a secondary display. But with a secondary display, you also have no signal before the OS.

 

So, basically, if we have signal in preboot, we have a flash when switching to the OS. If we don't, we also have no flash. Why is that? Can't it just initialise with no flash, just like it does when there is no signal until the OS kicks in?

 

By the way, any idea how did this guy manage to get a boot screen on what looks like a MacPro4,1 with a Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB?

 

Cause, that raises two questions:

1. is it still necessary for whatever is Clover doing to get us that boot screen?

2. would that fix this annoying issue?

 

I've noticed the boot was pretty long... Not sure if that's part of the "fix" and he didn't include an explanation of how to do it. But cool nonetheless!!

 

By the way, if you wanna test the "secondary display" thing I mentioned before, you don't actually need two monitors. Just one monitor and two cables. :D 

 

EDIT: looks like in this case, the card has been flashed with a custom ROM or something.

 

 

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Hi @Slice

 

Do you have any thoughts on this...? Apparently you can force the OS into 8-bit colors (ARGB8888) with a WEG boot flag, so that it matches the BIOS, but...that doesn't actually fix anything regarding the actual screen flashing.

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Hi guys!

 

Has any of you tried 10.15.4 yet? Build 19E224g. Cause....I don't wanna jinx it or something...but I restarted my computer 3 times in a row, and I got no flashing whatsoever. Could this be for real...? :))

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9 minutes ago, arsradu said:

Hi guys!

 

Has any of you tried 10.15.4 yet? Build 19E224g. Cause....I don't wanna jinx it or something...but I restarted my computer 3 times in a row, and I got no flashing whatsoever. Could this be for real...? :))

C'mon it cant be real. :drool: Sorry man, I am not using beta release. Hopefully, those who use beta will test it.

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1 hour ago, telepati said:

C'mon it cant be real. :drool: Sorry man, I am not using beta release. Hopefully, those who use beta will test it.

 

Yeah man! I think this is it. I think is for real. I could not be happier! This has bothered me since forever!!! And now it looks like it's finally fixed.

 

What OS version are you currently on? You could try the Beta on a separate partition, if you want. :) But yeah... I cannot believe it!

 

@unixb0y I think you might wanna give it a try, man. This is awesome.

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@arsradu Yeah, it looks like crazy. It had bothered me too. Hopefully, this fixed stays on the final version and apple developer don't break anything.

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1 hour ago, unixb0y said:

@arsradu I'm still on 10.14.6 hahaha but I'll update then, when it is out of beta :)

 

Well, I hope they keep it that way with the final release of 10.15.4. :)) But at least now we know for sure that there is probably nothing there could have been done on Clover/OC side to fix this. It looks like an issue on the OS (probably driver) side. But yeah, first build in many years without that annoying flash. This is amazing!

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19 hours ago, arsradu said:

Yeah man! I think this is it. I think is for real. I could not be happier! This has bothered me since forever!!! And now it looks like it's finally fixed.

What OS version are you currently on? You could try the Beta on a separate partition, if you want. :) But yeah... I cannot believe it!

I confirm that there is no flashing on my end either. :thumbsup_anim:

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Just now, arsradu said:

Heeey!!!! Welcome back, Cyber!

 

Many thanks for the test, man! Highly appreciated! :) 

Thanks man :)

Good to be back ;) and you're most welcome.

 

Thanks to you for reporting the new update.

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9 minutes ago, Cyberdevs said:

I confirm that there is no flashing on my end either. :thumbsup_anim:

WOW! I just thought you today. are you ok or not? I didn't see you for a long time and I wonder everything is ok with you. It is good to hear your voice. Welcome back. :thumbsup_anim:

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Just now, telepati said:

WOW! I just thought you today. are you ok or not? I didn't see you for a long time and I wonder everything is ok with you. It is good to hear your voice. Welcome back. :thumbsup_anim:

Thanks man, Yeah I'm ok and I was lurking in the shadows most of the times but wasn't posing much :D

Everything is alright and thanks for asking ;)

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