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Nvidia Web Driver updates for macOS High Sierra (UPDATE 11/03/2018)

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Um, are we talking about the same Apple that has a history of holding sometimes decades-long grudges? I am pretty sure there are two things causing Nvidia to miss out on generation after generation of Apple products. Nvidia doesn't want to support OpenCL (an Apple-developed standard) because it prefers its proprietary CUDA. And Apple doesn't want to work with Nvidia again because the last time they did it involved recalls of huge numbers of laptops. Apple always said it was small, but from what I saw was almost everyone one of my company's, colleagues, and several alumni that had the affected models either got their devices repaired under the program or had it happen a year or two after the program ended. Heck, the one I had I sold it to a friend and 8 months later the screen started having the classic signs of GPU overheating (I then refunded the money because it wasn't in good working order).

 

Apple has a long history of defected GPUs on their MacBook Pros and iMacs, the thing is that it's not happening on nVidia Chipsets, they have the same issue on several AMD GPUs as well.

 

If I recall correctly it started back in 2007 and with MacBook Pro (with a GeForece 8600M GPU). But there are some iMac models from 2010 and 2011 that have AMD (AMD Radeon HD 6970M).

 

But there are so many iMac models (2012 and 2013) that have GeForce GPUs and they are not affected. (NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M, GeForce GTX 775M, or GeForce GTX 780M)

 

I don't want to argue why Apple switched back to AMD since 2014 but only time will tell if nVidia is going to release the Web Drivers for High Sierra. I'm hoping that they do :) We only have to wait and hope for the best.

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I don't know, It's just that I've heard this in the past, before Sierra I remember to have read everywhere "Nvidia won't support macOS, because this and that", yet Nvidia's been working on both, drivers and CUDA software for macOS (Sierra in this case), and supporting every technology on Mac's, including OpenCL and Metal.
I believe Apple dropped Nvidia because their hardware is more expensive, simple as that. We all see how nice a product looks, how stable an OS is, etc, etc; but for companies this is all about money, all about money. Apple does great things, but they always try to balance quality with "actual" product profit, while securing "future" product profit; you know, new products that they add couple of "megapixels" here, and this there, and blah there, you know what I mean. They stayed with the ancient Nvidia GT 750m for ages for a reason, one is production cost (keep their profit margins), while it was "enough" as they usually say, to do all the basics they wanted to achieve with their software; BUT kind of ended when AMD got better performance while keeping their reasonably costs, it was a great business because for Apple because, Nvidia GT 750m vs AMD Radeon Pro, it was like 50%+ improvement in performance in almost every aspect that involves a GPU today, while keeping almost the same cost of their products, so it's been a great business deal for Apple to stay with AMD. And well, I am also sure that this is not about hardware issues, because I've seen problems in both platforms for ages. Here's a "not too old" example of MacPro's having issues: https://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/06/late-2013-mac-pro-video-issues-repair-program/

So anyways, sorry, I write too much, lol... It's evident that Apple is been growing in general adoption, and now including VR, AR, and AI, will help Apple grow a lot more, and I am sure that Nvidia (company) won't miss that business opportunity... But yeah, we only have to wait and hope for the best. :)

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Guys,

 

the common point on which we agree is that there is nothing else to do except waiting - None of what you've just said will move things forward. It is not the first time that Nvidia does not release a beta Web driver (10.12.0 - 10.12. 3 - 10.12.5 - 10.12.6), so nothing catastrophic in itself.

 

We can expect a new Web Driver following macOS High Sierra final release on the next Monday (in 2 days) - Meanwhile, play with tricks you currently have, nothing else to do, I fear.   ;)

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Nvidia doesn't want to support OpenCL (an Apple-developed standard) because it prefers its proprietary CUDA.

 

https://developer.nvidia.com/opencl

 

Yes Apple was the prototype author but they took it to the Khronos Group and a newly formed industry consortium (of which Nvidia was a founding member) before the release of 1.0 in 2008.

Some good news about OpenCL for Nvidia on macOS is that there isn't expected to be a next version - it is being rolled into Vulkan which means to support OpenCL macOS will have to support Vulkan. Metal2 is more or less a competing framework to Vulkan and OpenGL developers have been concerned that Vulkan support would be dropped in favour of Metal2. 

 

Also https://nvidia.wd5.myworkdayjobs.co...ND-OPENCL-SOFTWARE-ENGINEER---MAC_JR1897400-5 .

 

That said, it would appear here as though external GPUs will not have official retail support by Apple before Spring 2018. So the pressure isn't really on Nvidia to release a driver before that date - except from the likes of us who aren't really in a position to complain. Personally I really hope we see a driver update in the next few days but I'm not holding my breath.

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I was going to go home and install high sierra on my mac pro but I guess not now. So the only way I could would be to use the original gpu? My 660 won't work?

My gtx660ti has full acceleration on High Sierra with Apple driver. The only thing i have a black screen with iMac 17.1, but it could be fixed with Lilu.kext + NvidiaGraphicsFixup.kext.

 

Oh, and sometimes i have some graphics glitches like this.

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My gtx660ti has full acceleration on High Sierra with Apple driver. The only thing i have a black screen with iMac 17.1, but it could be fixed with Lilu.kext + NvidiaGraphicsFixup.kext.

 

Oh, and sometimes i have some graphics glitches like this.

Thank you for your response. What system are you running that on? And how does it run?

 

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Just so you know, I've had a chat with nvidia support and I've received information that drivers for high sierra will be released in next 24-48 hours with pascal support.

 

That's good news! Thanks for sharing!  :)

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Thanks @Asgorath for the update  :) U're the man..!!!

BTW, Nvidia changed the *.kexts location; now they're located on "/Library/Extensions" while on "/System/Library/Extensions" we get only *.bundle, just FYI.

 

 

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Is it just me or is the driver messed up? I guess on the Nvidia drivers I do not have acceleration, no transparancy and when I move windows around, it really gets messy 

 

 

 

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Do you have EmuVariableUefi installed in Drivers64UEFI?

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Yup, which is useless by the way since I'm using Clover in legacy at this machine  :P

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Is it just me or is the driver messed up? I guess on the Nvidia drivers I do not have acceleration, no transparancy and when I move windows around, it really gets messy 

 

 

 

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No worry, U're not alone LoL..  :P since GeForce* && NVD* are loaded; just never give up brother.. at least, it also happened on my Fermi GF119 with Legacy. Just enjoy..

 

 

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Yeah, hopefully it'll be fixed. I don't really need the web drivers anyway... Except having CUDA would be nice tho  :P

 

BTW: 

kextstat | egrep "GeForce|NVDA"

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Hmmm. On my MBP, when I try to install the new driver I get  "The Installer has encountered an issue with your system and the NVIDIA Web Driver may not install properly. Click Continue to proceed or click Cancel to abort the installation process."

And it gets installed, and the video card appears, but it doesn't activate the card... :(

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My rig boots to black screen even with Lilu.kext 1.1.7 and NvidiaGraphicsFixup.kext 1.1.3.


Hmmm. On my MBP, when I try to install the new driver I get  "The Installer has encountered an issue with your system and the NVIDIA Web Driver may not install properly. Click Continue to proceed or click Cancel to abort the installation process."

And it gets installed, and the video card appears, but it doesn't activate the card... :(

Same ^^

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My rig boots to black screen even with Lilu.kext 1.1.7 and NvidiaGraphicsFixup.kext 1.1.3.

Same ^^

werid thing! i install it with smbios imac142 and then change into macpro6.1.. i will try 

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