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Hola gente,
Quiero crear un hackintosh nuevo, y tengo esta configuración pensada, me podeis dar vuestra opinion?

Socket 2011v3
Intel CORE i7  5820K (3,3 Ghz - 3,6 Ghz)

Motherboard: GA-X99-UD4

Tarjeta gràfica: Geforce GTX960 OC WF2 4Gb DDR5

RAM: HyperX Savage HX424C14SBK2/32 - Memoria RAM DDR4 de 32 GB (2400 MHz DDR4 CL14 DIMM, Kit (2x16 GB) XMP)

Samsung SM951 256GB - Disco duro sólido (256 GB, M.2, 2150 MB/s, 0,05W, 8 cm, 2,2 cm)



Saludos y muchas gracias

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      Finished ATX case with all equipment and the server power-cord
       

      Finished ATX case with the Acrylic cover
       

      Different finished ATX Case with cover and cable management
       
       
       
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      The mounting kits for this Cooler Master AiO support all modern processors and sockets (775, 1150, 1151, 1155, 1156, 1366, 2011, 2011-3, 2066, AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, AM4, FM1, FM2, FM2+)
       

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      Equipment:
       
       
      I saved the important bits and bought cables for all Barebones
       

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      All fully modded Barebones have the acrylic cover
       
      I kept HDD rubber-head screws, DVD-drive standoffs, Pump Mounting Kits in a little bag.
       
       
       
      Finished mATX Barebones with watercooling:
       
       
      Here are some pictures of the internal layout:
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      Finished mATX Barebone
       

      Finished mATX Barebone with all equipment
       

      Finished mATX Barebone with all equipment
       
       
       
      Types of cases & Barebones:
       
       
      What I have right now:
       
      12 fully modded Barebones:
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      12 “Empty Ones”
      - 8 prepared for ATX (3 of which have heavier orange-peel)
      - 3 prepared for mATX (1 of which has heavier orange-peel)
       
       
       
      The End:
       
       
      Thats it for now…
      What do you think?
      Was it worth it?
      What hardware would you put in?
      Please let me know…
      ;-)
       
       
      Yours, sincerely
      wise_rice
    • By astroguy
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      Problem, Tuesday Night:  Catastrophic death.  Just shut down, couldn't get it up.  I spent over two hours midnight–2am, then another hour after I got up in the AM, determining that the heatsink pump had died.  To make a three hour story short, the errors on the motherboard were all related to RAM, but it had been running fine with the new RAM for 10 days.  I put in the old RAM and got the computer to boot, and then I heard that the fans were going full-tilt and saw the CPU temperature at just under boiling.  And it shut down.  I determined it was the pump and not motherboard because the pump did not turn on when I moved it to a header on the motherboard that had just been powering a fan that was fine.  So I ordered a new CPU cooler and installed it yesterday.
       
      Problem, Sunday Night: It was running fine for a day, after installing the new CPU heat sink.  We had a brown-out in the morning which apparently did NOT trip any UPS in the house, and the computer restarted.  Seemed fine, then tonight (11 hrs after the brownout), I went to make dinner, came back and all the fans were going and the computer wasn't on.  The light on the Corsair pump was flickering.
       
      Trying to Diagnose:  So, with the light flickering, I thought maybe it was the motherboard after all, and the CPU fan 1 was just dead (or dying).  No problem, moved it to CPU fan 2 and moved the fans for the heatsink to chassis 2 and tweaked the fan speeds in the BIOS (I was able to boot to it) and ... couldn't boot.  I can get to the BIOS.  I can start getting to the Mac OS, but I can't actually boot fully.  The motherboard is cycling between error codes 00 and 19, which from what I can find means CPU (00) or RAM (19).  I have tried powering the whole system down (on the PSU) for awhile, going back to the old RAM (works but then same error code on reboot), and even going to a passive heatsink I had in storage.
       
      Why this May Be a Hackintosh Question:  I have a pattern now to diagnose.  After hitting the restart a few times, I can get into the BIOS, no longer getting the 00/19 error on the motherboard.  I can get to the Clover boot menu, at which point the diagnostic LED on the motherboard turns off.  I can start the Mac OS, it spits out a bunch of diagnostic stuff, and then freezes, and the lights on the motherboard turn back on and flash between the 00 and 19 errors and the display shuts off.  I get to the same spot in the Mac OS startup, and that's when it shuts down.  To me, from the zero that I know about this, it looks like it's saying there's a CPU error.  Meaning I may have fried the CPU (or motherboard? or both?) during that initial CPU cooler failure five days ago.  I have attached a screenshot from the video I took of the screen while starting up the last time.
       
      CMOS Reset:  I tried doing this as an addendum, after taking pictures of every screen in the BIOS so I could restore.  The reset definitely reset the BIOS, I got it to boot to the BIOS again, but I'm stuck at the same death point as in the screenshot.  The ONLY difference is that now instead of just stopping there, it goes black for a few seconds and returns to the BIOS option screen (F2 for BIOS, F11 for Boot, etc.), and then tries to boot the Mac OS again.  Fails at the same point again, the only difference each time is that in that "Backtrace (CPU #) ..." line, the # changes, and the com.apple.lokit.IOBluetoothHostController... hex stuff is different.
       
      Help!?  Do I need a new motherboard and CPU?  Fortunately, everything is backed up hourly, and on my laptop, and the HDDs should still be fine.

    • By WarDoc
      So is anyone planning on getting this to Hack it as its the perfect mix of intel and amd in the perfect size 
       
       
      https://www.pcworld.com/article/3267074/computers/intel-hades-canyon-nuc-nuc8i7hvk-review.html 
       
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