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Kind of a continuation of my previous thread, but I thought I'd share my progress.

 

I got the EVGA GTX 760 FTW 4GB, which works great when setting GraphicsEnabler=No.  I also got the Dell UP2414Q – gorgeous monitor, by the way – and I now have native 4K output.  But only at 30Hz.  Which feels really laggy.

 

Windows can run the display at 60Hz at native 3840x2160 over DisplayPort 1.2, but OS X can't.  I've got a feeling it's a driver problem.

 

I'm probably the only one on this forum with this issue, but is there any way to force OS X to refresh this display at 60Hz when running at 4K?  Or do I just have to wait for new drivers from Apple?

 

EDIT: See my update about 10.9.3.

EDITED EDIT: See my update about the final version of 10.9.3.

FINAL EDIT: See my update after extensive testing. (My setup doesn't work, but there are other 4K monitors which do for other people.)

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Not a issue as this is Apples spec. Apples standard and Windows standard are different. 

 

That said if your monitor is of 4K spec you can over-ride Apples standard and Windows for that matter by forcing 60 Hz by the monitor settings. 

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That said if your monitor is of 4K spec you can over-ride Apples standard and Windows for that matter by forcing 60 Hz by the monitor settings.

 

Thanks for the response.

 

Which monitor settings are you talking about?  The fastest refresh rate in Apple's control panel is 30.3Hz (but this causes a blank screen).

 

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Lower resolutions allow for faster refresh rates...

 

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...but I want to run 3840x2160@60Hz like in Windows.  Is there a hack I can use to force it?

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Current UHD displays apparently consist of two half-panels that need to be driven separately (MST mode over displayport) to run at 60 Hz, and the OS needs to "combine" the two half-panels into a full one. So yes, it's a driver issue. 
 
The new Mac Pro can do it with Sharp/ASUS UHD displays but not the Dell.
 
Maybe other Macs and Hacks will be able to do it too come 10.9.2 or a later update.
 
Update: Apparently it does, according to 4K @ 60 Hz comes to OSX in 10.9.2 Beta @Netkas.

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Ricky, if you're still around, could you answer a quick question? I'm really close to pulling the trigger on a Dell UP2414q.

 

Can you get 60hz while running in 1920 x 1080p (HiDPI) or is it only available when running 1080p?

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Update: Apparently it does, according to 4K @ 60 Hz comes to OSX in 10.9.2 Beta @Netkas.

 

 

The guy who posted that is an idiot. 

 

Anyhow, the thread actually states that AMD 79xx cards can do 60Hz in 10.9.2 Betas, the Nvidia cards get the "wha wha"

 

I have tested up through 12c39 but haven't tried 44 yet, but not too excited that it will work.

 

I imagine that they are in no hurry, it is essentially adding what has been a Windows only feature to OSX drivers. Is there a TB2 Mac with Nvidia card that runs 4K?

 

In any case, "ill try 44 sooner or later but I wouldn't expect it.

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Just thought I'd post a quick update: I just installed the 10.9.2 release (13C64) and I'm still missing MST drivers.  Capped at 30Hz for now.

 

Here's hoping 10.9.3 will deliver, because this monitor is amazing otherwise.

 

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I imagine that they are in no hurry, it is essentially adding what has been a Windows only feature to OSX drivers. Is there a TB2 Mac with Nvidia card that runs 4K?

 

The high-end 15" 2013 Retina MacBook Pro ships with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, and it has Thunderbolt 2 (and therefore DisplayPort 1.2).  So it meets the requirements.

 

There's a big thread about this on Apple's discussion forums, and these MacBook Pro owners don't have MST support in their drivers either.  However, since NVIDIA provides drivers for Windows directly, they (and I) report success running 4K at 60Hz with MST in Windows.

 

The question is whether Apple will update the drivers with MST support for these systems, or leave them in the cold and wait for the next hardware revision (which I would predict is just as likely).

 

In either case, for Hackintosh users, it's gonna happen.  Just a question of when.

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Looks like we might be getting 60hz in 10.9.3 . Dev distro out now!

 

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/07/os-x-10-9-3-retina-option-4k-displays/

Full MST support!

 

I can confirm this with 10.9.3 beta 1 on my system (though, in my case, the upscale resolution is just a list of pixel dimensions).

 

Not sure if the drivers still need some optimization though – while I can see that it's refreshing the display at 60Hz, it looks like my card might not be able to render at that framerate in OS X right now. Running it at native resolution, @2x scaling.  For example, the highest framerate I can get on acko.net (a WebGL site) on that monitor is 36 FPS.

 

That said, there could be some optimizations on their way still.  Windows handles 4K pretty well on this machine.

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I can confirm this with 10.9.3 beta 1 on my system (though, in my case, the upscale resolution is just a list of pixel dimensions).

 

Not sure if the drivers still need some optimization though – while I can see that it's refreshing the display at 60Hz, it looks like my card might not be able to render at that framerate in OS X right now. Running it at native resolution, @2x scaling.  For example, the highest framerate I can get on acko.net (a WebGL site) on that monitor is 36 FPS.

 

That said, there could be some optimizations on their way still.  Windows handles 4K pretty well on this machine.

Hey Ricky! Thanks for the feedback, that is some great news!

 

I also have the Dell UP 2414Q Display attached to an nVidia GTX 660 Graphics Card via Displayport.

Unfortunatley I am still stuck at 30Hz running 10.9.3. Beta 1

 

Is there any changes you made to your setup (Software/Display OSD)?

 

How is rendering in Finder, scrolling in Safari when running 60Hz? Did you get rid of that lagginess?

 

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Hey Ricky! Thanks for the feedback, that is some great news!

 

I also have the Dell UP 2414Q Display attached to an nVidia GTX 660 Graphics Card via Displayport.

Unfortunatley I am still stuck at 30Hz running 10.9.3. Beta 1

 

Is there any changes you made to your setup (Software/Display OSD)?

 

I had to go into the monitor's settings and choose Menu > Display Settings > DisplayPort 1.2.  It's not enabled by default.

 

Other than that, just make sure that you have a DisplayPort 1.2 cable and a DP 1.2 port available on your GTX.

 

Also note that OS X supports my card without any hacks – YMMV.

 

How is rendering in Finder, scrolling in Safari when running 60Hz? Did you get rid of that lagginess?

 

I haven't tried yet – I only booted into 10.9.3 briefly.  I might give it another go today.

 

The framerate problems were pretty much systemwide though, and they didn't occur on my 2560x1440 display.  Even moving the cursor and dragging windows around on my 4K display was not smooth like on my other display.  I definitely know that it's refreshing at 60Hz though.

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I had to go into the monitor's settings and choose Menu > Display Settings > DisplayPort 1.2.  It's not enabled by default.

 

Other than that, just make sure that you have a DisplayPort 1.2 cable and a DP 1.2 port available on your GTX.

 

Thanks for directions Ricky. Unfortunately I can not report any success with my GTX 660. UP2414Q & GTX660 (connected via Displayport 1.2) is still stuck to 30Hz SST Mode in 10.9.3 Beta 1.

I might try replacing my graphics card with a GTX 760 oder Radeon HD 7950. At least the Dell display seems to be white listed for MST support since the latest seed of 10.9.3 Beta, backed by your reports.

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Had a similar Issue, switch Res x solves it in the free version.... You can force manually the 50 / 60 Hz mode. (for 1080p and not 4k)  

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Just installed 10.9.3 beta 2 and it's even better.  Not only am I seeing 60Hz refresh rate with MST, but the pixels coming off of the card are keeping up with it now.  Getting nice smooth window dragging and cursor movement, and it's just as smooth as on my non-4K display!

 

This is excellent!  :w00t:

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Just installed 10.9.3 beta 2 and it's even better.  Not only am I seeing 60Hz refresh rate with MST, but the pixels coming off of the card are keeping up with it now.  Getting nice smooth window dragging and cursor movement, and it's just as smooth as on my non-4K display!

 

This is excellent!  :w00t:

 

Thanks Ricky! This is amazing news!

 

Just wanted to let people know that Radeon 7950 and GTX 660 cards are still not enabled for 60Hz operation in 10.9.3 Beta 2.

 

I might try changing my graphics card into a GTX 760 on Hackintosh as I don't see any progress concerning Radeon drivers nor support for GTX 660

 

Update - 2014/03/16

 

I have been testing different setups in the last couple of days. Unfortunately I could not get 60Hz to work on the Dell UP2414Q 4K Display.
 
My system is:
 
Dell UP 2414Q, Display Port 1.2 (MST) enabled in OSD
 
GA-Z87MX-D3H (F6 Bios)
Intel 4670K
Corsair 16GB 1600MHz
Crucial m4 SSD
 
I checked for available resolutions using Display Menu
 
OS X 10.9.3 Beta Build 13D12
Gigabyte - GTX 660
3.840 × 2.160 @ 30Hz , Retina Scaling available, Sometimes Black Screens during POST and after chameleon boot
3.840 × 2.160 @ 30Hz, Retina Scaling available, Sometimes Black Screens during POST and after chameleon boot
3.840 × 2.160 @ 30Hz, Retina Scaling available
 
OS X 10.9.3 Beta Build 13D17
Gigabyte - GTX 660
Won't load UI
Won't load UI
3.840 × 2.160 @ 30Hz, Retina Scaling available
 
Problems with 13D17 seem to be related to changes in Apples integrated drivers and power handling for PCIe. There is a discussion about it going on over here at netkas forum
 
While I am having nothing but trouble with that 4K display, Ricky seems to be fine running his Dell 2414Q with that exact same GTX 760 Graphics card on an X79 Platform main board (Asus P9X79 WS)

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I tested a Dell UP 2414Q on a late 2012 iMac with GTX 675MX, as well as a late 13" rMBP with Haswell processer graphics, using both 10.9.2 and 10.9.3 beta:

  • 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 HiDPI work at 30 Hz in 10.9.2 on both machines
  • The above plus 3 other HiDPI resolutions work at 30 Hz in 10.9.3 beta on both machines (2560x1440 HiDPI, 3200x1800 HiDPI, don't remember the smallest one)
  • HiDPI worked in landscape mode only, but not portrait mode. In portrait the regular non-HiDPI res was used and as such was blurry
  • No 60 Hz at full resolution with either machine (yes the display is set to DP 1.2/MST)
  • Might try late 2013 15" rMBP
  • Will definitely try Hackintosh with GTX 780 as well as Mac Pro with Radeon 5870 at some point in the future
  • For more detail see Re: 4K @ 60 Hz comes to OSX in 10.9.2 Beta

The guy who posted that is an idiot.

 
No need to be rude because I posted the slightly (un)related but IMO still interesting link to your thread.

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Might try late 2013 15" rMBP

 

Tried it, and it was able to drive the display at 60 Hz in all resolutions I tested: 1920x1080 HiDPI, 2560x1440 HiDPI and 3860x2160. Moving the mouse cursor and windows was smooth (unlike 30 Hz). I didn't have time to try anything else, but given the immense amount of pixels it needs to move around I wouldn't be surprised if some things were a bit slower than normal.

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Tried various things to get 10.9.3 beta to boot on my Hack, to no avail. So unfortunately can't test the UP2414Q with it yet. There are a few others with similar problems too, details are in this Netkas thread.

 

@Ricky Romero:

Is there anything particular you had to do to get 10.9.3 beta running with your GTX 760?

 

So far I'm unsuccessful with GTX 770 and 780, I get constant WindowServer crashes instead of the login screen. I didn't have those problems with 10.9.1 or 10.9.2 (though 10.9.2 seems more unstable than 10.9.1 for me).

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This is the exact card I'm using on my hack.  I don't have any graphics enablers or hacks needed to make my card work.

 

It's also important to make sure that:

  1. When booting into Windows, the latest drivers for your card will run your 4K display at 60Hz.
  2. Your monitor is set up to receive a DisplayPort 1.2 signal.
  3. You are using a DisplayPort 1.2 cable.  This is the one I use.

I don't know if my motherboard has anything to do with 4K MST output, but it's certainly possible.

 

I tested a Dell UP 2414Q on a late 2012 iMac with GTX 675MX, as well as a late 13" rMBP with Haswell processer graphics, using both 10.9.2 and 10.9.3 beta:

 

Not sure about the 13".  It has Thunderbolt 2 (and therefore DisplayPort 1.2), but I don't know if the Iris graphics will drive 4K at 60Hz. You might want to try it in Windows.

 

Your iMac, though, can't run 4K at 60Hz as it doesn't have TB2.

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Thanks for your reply.

 

Enabling MST/DP1.2 is not my problem, but booting 10.9.3 beta on my Hack is.

 

I did already run the display at 60 Hz in full (and HiDPI) resolutions with a 15" rMBP 2013 using 10.9.3 beta, as well as my Hackintosh using Windows 8 (see pic).

A 13" rMBP 2013 I tried couldn't do it however. And yes, the late 2012 iMac (my work machine) can't run it at 60 Hz either, that's the first thing I confirmed.

 

I don't know if my motherboard has anything to do with 4K MST output, but it's certainly possible.

 

Yeah maybe. Out of interest, did you have the NVidia web drivers installed before updating to 10.9.3 beta? What bootloader do you use?

 

I'm pretty much out of ideas. The (clone of the) 10.9.2 install I upgraded to 10.9.3 booted just fine before the update, and I'm writing this from another 10.9.2 install without booting problems.

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I can boot 10.9.3 (all the builds including the new beta that just came out) just fine on a hack, but getting retina working at 60hz is a thing. I don't need to replace any files to get the system up, but I can only set 30hz resolutions.

Works fine on my late 2013 MBPR. Would be nice to get this fixed. Using Clover as my bootloader. Graphics card is the GTX 670. 60hz works in Windows just fine.

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Yeah maybe. Out of interest, did you have the NVidia web drivers installed before updating to 10.9.3 beta? What bootloader do you use?

 

I'm pretty much out of ideas. The (clone of the) 10.9.2 install I upgraded to 10.9.3 booted just fine before the update, and I'm writing this from another 10.9.2 install without booting problems.

 

I did try the NVIDIA web drivers when I was trying to get 60Hz working initially, but I'm 95% sure I wiped all traces of them from my system.

 

I'm using Chameleon v2.2svn r2377 right now.  Maybe you'll find my plist configs useful.

 

One problem I ran into with beta 2 was that my card would only drive my 4K monitor, and not my 27" DVI display.  Gonna test on beta 3 to see if I run into the same problems as you guys.

 

UPDATE: Tried 10.9.3 beta 3 and I'm having no luck getting my second monitor working, though the 4K display is still working fine.  Also tried deleting /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist to no avail.

UPDATE 2: Just tried deleting all the DisplayVendorID entries in /System/Library/Displays/Overrides, also to no avail.  I'm stumped.  Back to 10.9.2 for now.

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Select your Catalina destination partition (which will be your Mojave or previous Catalina partition if you are upgrading) After the Catalina Installer reboots the first time, boot from the "macOS Installer" partition on the disk that you selected as your Catalina destination (not the macOS installer on the USB) After the Catalina Installer reboots the second time, boot the Catalina macOS Installer on the USB Select the Post Install Patcher utility Select only the following Post Install Patches (no other patches / options) Install Patch Updater Legacy Video After the Post Install Patcher reboots,  boot from the newly installed (or upgraded) Catalina partition and complete the macOS configuration Remove these kexts (if they exist) from /Library/Extensions: LegacyUSBInjector.kext, LegacyUSBVideoSupport.kext and SIPManager.kext If you are performing a fresh installation of Catalina (I may be changing kext installation to EFI/Clover/kexts/Other to address Brcm Bluetooth Issue.  See discussions in Known Issues below and later in this thread): Install CLOVER on your boot disk and configure EFI using files in the attached E6410-Catalina.zip.  Use the CLOVER configuration below.  Your EFI Clover/kexts/Other folder needs only FakeSMC.kext, IntelMausiEthernet.kext, USBInjectAll.kext and VoodooPS2.kext.  Be sure to replace the XX-MASKED-XX parameters in the attached config.plist with your own values. Install all kexts in the attached E6410-Catalina.zip LE folder to your /Library/Extensions folder.  NOTE: These instructions assume installation of Brcm kexts in /Library/Extensions.  Read the Brcm install instructions if you're installing kexts in EFI/Clover/kexts/Other, since your installation and at least one kext WILL BE DIFFERENT. Copy HWMonitor from the application folder in the attached E6410-Catalina.zip to your Applications folder. Install VoodooHDA (I installed using the Classic method) Skip to Step 21 If you are upgrading from a previous version of Catalina using the instructions from this thread or from Mojave that you installed using the instructions here (I may be changing kext installation to EFI/Clover/kexts/Other to address Brcm Bluetooth Issue.  See discussions in Known Issues below and later in this thread): Update Lilu.kext and replace BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM2.kext (in /Library/Extensions) with latest BrcmBluetoothInjector.kext, BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM3.kext. NOTE: These instructions assume installation of Brcm kexts in /Library/Extensions.  Read the Brcm install instructions if you're installing kexts in EFI/Clover/kexts/Other, since your installation and at least one kext WILL BE DIFFERENT. Update IntelMausiEthernet.kext Remove VoodooSDHC.kext from /Library/Extensions Re-install VoodooHDA if necessary (I installed using the Classic method) Ensure PROPER kext installation: If you're manually installing kexts in /Library/Extensions, make sure that you execute the following (in terminal) cd /Library/Extensions sudo chown -R root:wheel *.kext sudo chmod -R 755 *.kext sudo kextcache -i / After you execute 'sudo kextcache -i /' you should observe that ALL kexts are allowed.  If not, your kext directory attributes are probably incorrect.  Repeat kext installation and try again. Reboot from your new/upgraded Catalina partition Welcome to macOS Catalina! Change the keyboard type to ISO (System Preferences > Keyboard > Change Keyboard Type) Swap the Command and Option keys (System Preferences > Keyboard > Modifier Keys) Set hibernatemode: In terminal, execute sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0 sudo rm -f /var/vm/sleepimage sudo touch /var/vm/sleepimage sudo chflags schg /var/vm/sleepimage  
      Version Info at the time of this writing:
      Catalina Installer 10.15.3 CLOVER v2.5k r5103 DosDude Catalina Patcher: v1.3.0 Lilu.kext 1.4.2 AirportBrcmFixup.kext 2.0.6 BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext 2.5.1 BrcmBluetoothInjector.kext 2.5.1 BrcmPatchRAM3.kext 2.5.1 IntelMausiEthernet.kext 2.5.0
      VoodooHDA.kext 2.9.2 v15 (NOT AppleALC)
       
      What is not working (that was working in Mojave)
      SD Card Slot (had to remove VoodooSDHC.kext which caused system freeze on wake)  
      Known Issues and Their Solutions
      (Solved - no further work required) USB sleep/wake power IORegistry keys are not injected (not included in Mojave's or Catalina's IOUSBHostFamily.kext).  Solution is to added SSDT-USBX.aml to EFI/CLOVER/ACPI/patched.  The attached SSDT-USBX.aml includes USB sleep/wake properties for MacBookPro6,2 from High Sierra 10.13.6 IOUSBHostFamily.kext. (No solution yet) Brightness slider does not work in System Preferences > Displays.  Brightness is easily controlled with Dell brightness keys.  There is some work on this later in this thread, but I will not be solving this as I'm content with the Dell brightness keys (and Ambient Light Sensor works to auto-adjust brightness). I continue to refine the DSDT and CLOVER config.plist to optimize my Latitude E6410 for multi-booting between various macOS versions (High Sierra, Mojave and Catalina at the time of this writing). If you upgrade your Latitude E6410 EFI using my attached EFI, you may find that your Latitude E6410 is stuck in a boot-loop that ends in a white screen and reboots.  Clear your system by doing the following: turn off your laptop, remove A/C power, remove the main battery, press and hold the power button for 30 seconds, restore A/C power and battery, boot normally.  I have only found this to be necessary (very rarely) after making an EFI change, but you may find it helpful if making kext changes in /Library/Extensions as well. (Possible solution: move Brcm kexts to E/C/k/O with Clover "Inject Kexts" = YES.  Not yet implemented in the attached E6410-Catalina.zip file, so I'm leaving this work-around). (Work-around - no permanent solution yet) Cannot turn on Bluetooth after shutting-down with Bluetooth off.  Work-around is to leave Bluetooth on.  I don't use Bluetooth and don't mind, so this will likely be solved by someone else.  If you experience this issue and can't turn-on Bluetooth, I have found that putting the laptop to sleep (Fn-F1) and then waking the laptop restores proper operation of Bluetooth.  I have posted a problem description, logs and problem reporting files in this thread for help with this problem. (Solved - no further work required) Laptop does not sleep when closing lid.  Solution appears to be a combination of adding Notify (LID0) code to Method (BTNV), adding Device (PNLF) and adding the definition for pwm-info in the DSDT.  No surprise that the Latitude E6410 has yet another incomplete ACPI implementation.  I am using the same EFI for High Sierra 10.13.6, Mojave 10.14.6 and Catalina 10.15.3 and it works in all three macOSes. (No solution yet) No SD Card Slot (had to remove VoodooSDHC.kext) - I read somewhere that there is a solution that does not require any kexts (just a DSDT edit).  Haven't yet implemented this fix. (Not a problem that needs to be solved - leaving for historical purposes.  I am running Catalina without this.) - IOHWControl does not load under GFX0 (as observed in IORegistryExplorer).  Solution (if it needs to be solved) is to install AppleHWSensor.kext from a DosDude-patched Mojave /S/L/E in Catalina's /L/E.  Copy and install your own or use the kext attached to this post. (Solved - no further work required) Wi-Fi connection is delayed until a minute or so after boot - Use VoodooHDA and NOT AppleALC (Solved - no further work required) External USB ports do not work after waking from sleep (S3) - Upgrade Lilu.kext and replace BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM2.kext (in /L/E) with latest BrcmBluetoothInjector.kext, BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM3.kext. (Solved - no further work required) Boot and shut-down time of Catalina is slower than Mojave - Upgrade Lilu.kext and replace BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM2.kext (in /L/E) with latest BrcmBluetoothInjector.kext, BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM3.kext. (Solved - no further work required) Wi-Fi is not immediately available at OS startup - Upgrade Lilu.kext and replace BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM2.kext (in /L/E) with latest BrcmBluetoothInjector.kext, BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext and BrcmPatchRAM3.kext. (Solved - no further work required) Laptop freezes on wake - Remove VoodooSDHC.kext from /Library/Extensions  
      Tips for Improved Performance (on this and other older systems)
      System Preferences > Spotlight > Search Results: Uncheck all options System Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy: Add all Volumes System Preferences > Accessibility > Display: Check "Reduce motion" System Preferences > Accessibility > Display: Check "Reduce transparency"  
      Other tips
      If your fan is always running and temps are good, try pressing Fn + z (I haven't noticed this issue for a while since I completed DSDT edits for Mojave, but keeping this here for historical purposes)  
      CLOVER Installation: Use these configuration options
      Install Clover in the ESP Boot Sectors Install boot0af in MBR Clover for BIOS (legacy) booting Clover EFI 64-bits SATA BIOS Drivers, 64-bit Recommended drivers FSInject File System drivers ApfsDriverLoader Install RC scripts on target volume Themes Choose your desired theme Install Clover Preference Pane After clicking "Continue", if prompted with "This Clover package is incompatible with this version of macOS," install anyway  
      After CLOVER installation is complete Copy the following from the attached E6410-Catalina.zip ACPI patched contents config.plist (change XX-MASKED-XX values to your own) kexts/Other (remove all other kext folders) Remove christmas and new year folders from themes (if present)  
      Credits
      Thanks to those who contributed to my Mojave solution and to the DosDude team (for the incredible macOS patchers), I think this Catalina installation was the easiest macOS installation that I have experienced (so far).  Many thanks to @Slice and his team for the incredible work on CLOVER and for continuing to support old legacy systems like this.  Also, thanks to @Mieze and @headkaze and others I'm sure for maintaining the Brcm kexts.  And finally, I still prefer to manually apply patches to the DSDTs in my systems.  CLOVER offers extensive patching functionality, but I'm old-school and like to have an error-free, fully-patched DSDT with a simple CLOVER config.plist.  I think that this manual DSDT patching approach (which required an extensive review and debugging of the original unpatched DSDT in this thread) is the reason that this Latitude E6410 is such a perfect MacBookPro6,2.  Thank you @RehabMan for being a great teacher and for always insisting on problem reporting files .
       
       

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    • By tonyx86
      *** I have started another thread for installing Catalina on the Dell Latitude E6410.  If you were thinking of installing Mojave, but would prefer to skip right to Catalina, click here. ***
       
      I was inspired by @duduclx post here for installing El Capitan on a Dell Latitude E6410, so I decided to install Mojave 10.14.5 and subsequently 10.14.6.  Everything works perfectly (including sleep).  I'm starting this thread hoping to help others install Mojave on their E6410s.  A brief installation guide is provided later in this first post.  The interested reader is encouraged to read the other posts in this thread to see how this solution evolved and to learn additional tips/details not provided in this first post (including dual-booting with macOS and Windows).
       
      My system is as follows:
      Dell Latitude E6410 (I7-620m, Nvidia 3100M, 8GB DDR3, 512GB SSD, 1440x900 display, BIOS: A17) MacOS: Mojave 10.14.6 (APFS) (Patched with DosDude Mojave Patcher 1.3.3) MacModel: MacBookPro 6,2 (LPCB._DSM.Name "pci8086,3b09") Kexts: Lilu 1.3.6, VoodooHDA 2.9.2, AirportBrcmFixup 2.0.0, IntelMausiEthernet 2.4.1d1, ACPIBatteryManager 1.90.1, BrcmPatchRam2.kext, BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext, VoodooPS2Controller (the "Refined ALPS Touchpad" version - release 6 developed by @Dr. Hurt and compiled by @bronxteck), not the original version), USBInjectAll (with custom SSDT-UIAC), VoodooSDHC.kext (configured as shown here). Wi-Fi: Broadcom BCM 94352HMB (with AirportBrcmFixup.kext) CLOVER (Legacy): R4961  
      Configuration items that may be different from what you have seen in other E6410 configurations
      Addition of _OFF and _ON methods to _PTS and _WAK methods respectively (to control discrete graphics in order to enable sleep/wake) LPCB._DSM patched with device-id "3b09" AND "name", "pci8086,3b09" for native Nehalem power management with MacBookPro 6,2 ECDV renamed to EC so that AppleBusPowerController loads AGP.VID._DSM patched with device-id "0a29" so that AppleGraphicsPowerManagement loads No CLOVER Generate P or Generate C States (with the correct LPCB._DSM and MacBookPro 6,2, these CLOVER options are unnecessary for this architecture and only limit max multiplier and reduce number of P states) DSDT patched to include HDAU device (device-id 0x0be3)  
      What is NOT working:
      Display brightness can be controlled with keyboard keys, but cannot be controlled with slider in Display settings. Graphics Power Management - AGPM loads (because 10de,0a29 device is injected), but there's no evidence that 3100m frequency and voltage is changing.
        What is NOT tested:
      Smartcard Reader eSata (I have this disabled in my BIOS) Firewire Port (it does appear in the Network settings, just haven't tried it) Microphone Jack PC Card Slot (I have this disabled in my BIOS)  
      What IS working:
      SLEEP IS WORKING! Everything else not mentioned above.   Speedstep/CPUPowerManagement is perfect, system temps are low, CPU multiplier operates as expected, battery life is long Shutdown is fast Display/graphics acceleration is perfect (thanks to DosDude's Mojave patcher) Brightness (adjusted with brightness keys on keyboard) works perfectly Battery Manager works (battery status is displayed in menu bar) simply by installing ACPIBatterManager.kext. Wi-Fi (after changing to Broadcom BCM94352HMB and installing AirportBrcmFixup.kext) Audio (volume adjustable, volume indicator appears in menu bar).  Switched to VoodooHDA from AppleALC after AppleALC caused slow boot due to "IOHDACodecFunction timeout." Ethernet port (with IntelMausiEthernet.kext) Broadcom BCM20702A0 Bluetooth (with BrcmPatchRam2.kext and BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext) Optical Drive External VGA (with corrected NVCAP.  Need NVCAP 04000000 00000100 0E000000 00000007 00000000 (credit: here) for working external VGA display. Headphone jack Display Port (tested using DP > HDMI adapter) Camera SD Card Reader  
      Known issues and their solutions (These issues have all been resolved, with the solutions incorporated into the attached config files.  The issues are listed here for historical purposes and no further work is needed unless stated otherwise).
      USB sleep/wake power IORegistry keys are no longer provided in IOUSBHostFamily.kext after High Sierra 10.13.6.  Solution is to added SSDT-USBX.aml to EFI/CLOVER/ACPI/patched.  The attached SSDT-USBX.aml includes USB sleep/wake properties for MacBookPro6,2 from High Sierra 10.13.6 IOUSBHostFamily.kext. Laptop does not sleep on lid close.  Solution is to add Notify (LID0) code to Method (BTNV) in the DSDT.  This is solved in the attached DSDT. Leaving this for historical purposes, but the CLOVER USBFix is no longer necessary after finding that I had incorrectly applied the DSDT _DSM patch for Device (EHC1).  The CLOVER USBFix is not needed after fixing the DSDT..  AAPL,clock-id and device_type do not appear in IORegistry for EHC1.  Solution is to use CLOVER on-the-fly patching/fixing/renaming for EHC1 and EHC2.  Thank you, @feartech, for this tip. ALPS trackpad performance is not good with the "standard" VoodooPS2Controller.kext that I initially used.  Switching to the "Refined ALPS TouchPad driver" is a big improvement.  I've implemented and tested this on my system.  The ALPS version of VoodooPS2Controller.kext mixes up a few keys.  Need to switch the Command and Option keys (System Preferences > Keyboard > Modifier Keys) and change keyboard type to ISO European. This configuration (captured in the attached config files) uses an injected device-id (10de,0a29) for NVidia 3100m to get AGPM to load.  While I haven't observed any performance differences, a better approach may be to inject AGPM properties for device 10de,0a6c (the actual device-id for the 3100m).  This AGPM method is discussed later in this thread.  I have briefly tested this "FakeSMC.kext method" for injecting AGPM attributes without any noticeable changes in laptop/graphics behavior. IOHWControl is not loaded under AGPM (Should be AGP > VID > NVDA,Display-A@0 > NVDATesla > AGPM > gpu-control > IOHWControl as viewed in IORegistryExplorer).  It is loaded on a real MacBookPro6,2 running Mojave and is loaded on this Dell Latitude E6410 running High Sierra.  If I "Inject NVidia" via CLOVER, IOHWControl loads properly. The Dell Latitude DSDT (BIOS A17) has a bug in Method (GNOT).  In the method, the expression  If (LOr (LGreater (OSYS, 0x07D0), LLess (OSYS, 0x07D6))) always evaluates to TRUE, so the patched DSDT has no dependency on the value of OSYS.  I suspect that LOr should be replaced with LAnd, so that this expression is TRUE for variants of Windows 2001 and False for any other OS.  While this may have no affect on MacOS, it makes one wonder how such an obvious bug made it through Dell QA and is still present in BIOS A17.  Also makes one wonder whether the sleep problem (which no one has solved) was fixed in Windows to address another DSDT bug. The assigned value of ACOS and OSYS in the DSDT are conditional on the operating system.  There is no condition for "Darwin."  The solution is to add a condition for "Darwin" (making it equivalent to one of the defined operating systems (e.g. Linux, Win7, etc).  The attached config hard-codes ACOS and OSYS values equivalent to those for Linux.  Another way to handle this (different from the method employed in the attached config files) might be to override _OSI with XOSI (defined in a custom SSDT). The portType of the Internal Bluetooth device is portType=0 which, according to Rehabman's comments in SSDT-UIAC-All.dsl, is an external USB 2 port.  This should be an internal USB port (portType=2).  I learned through trial and error that the HUB1 and HUB2 definitions in Rehabman's SSDT-UIAC-ALL.dsl apply to the ports on the EHCx USB hubs.  The solution is to include the HUB1 definition in SSDT-UIAC.dsl and change portType to 2 for HP15.  This change doesn't appear to affect/fix sleep, but it may prevent instant wake if we get sleep working. There are minor differences between a real MacBookPro6,2 IORegistry dump and this HackBookPro6,2 IORegistry dump that can be resolved with simple DSDT edits.  I am now running with these changes, but haven't found these changes to make any difference in operational behavior.
      Rename Device (AC) -> Device (ADP1) Remove UID from Device (HPET) Add compatible ID "PNP0C01" to Device (HPET) Change ADP1:_STA from 0x0F to 0xFFFFFFFF Enable Ambient Light Sensor and renamed to Device (ALS0) from Device (ALS) Add compatible ID "smc-als" to ALS0 Rename LID -> LID0 Change "name" definitions to Buffers in _DSM methods Rename Device (PBTN) to PWRB Rename Device (SBTN) to SLPB Sleep / Wake does not work with the basic DSDT edits.  I have discovered that Sleep / Wake can be made to work by adding discrete graphics _OFF and _ON methods to _PTS and _WAK methods respectively (borrowed the concept and code from a working E6430 DSDT: Credit here: https://osxlatitude.com/forums/topic/9248-working-sleep-on-intel-hd-and-nvidia-nvs-on-dell-latitude-e6430-optimus-enabled-or-disabled/page/6/. The Clover boot arg should be changed to "darkwake=0" for reasons explained by @holyfield in this thread.  Leaving this for historical purposes: LCD screen is blank when waking laptop by opening lid (screen is not blank when waking with power button).  Solution is to add darkwake=8 to CLOVER boot args.  Thank you @Hervé for this tip.  
      Brief Installation Guide:
      Configure BIOS (version A17) as follows (leave default unless listed here): Boot Sequence: USB, Internal HDD, CD/DVD, Modular Bay HDD; Boot List Option: Legacy; Integrated NIC: Enabled; Parallel Port: Disabled; Serial Port: Disabled; SATA Operation: AHCI; Misc Devices: Enable Modular Bay, Camera, External USB, Microphone, Media Card and 1394; Latitude ON Reader: Disabled; Keyboard Illumination: Auto ALS and Input; Ambient Light Sensor: Enabled; OROM Keyboard Access: Disable; TPM Security: Disable; Computrace: Deactivate; CPU XD Support: Enable; Performance: Enable all options; Power Management: Disable Wake on AC, Disable Wake on LAN/WAN, Express Charge: Standard, Charge Behavior: Enabled; Keypad: Fn Key Only; Mouse/Touchpad: Touchpad/PS-2 Mouse; USB Emulation: Enable Legacy; Fn Key Emulation: Disabled; Fastboot: Thorough; Virtualization: Enable Intel Virtualization, Disable VT for Direct I/O, Disable Trusted Execution; Wireless Switch: Bluetooth and WLAN; Wireless Device Enable: Bluetooth and WLAN;  Create your MacOS installer USB (Use DosDude's Mojave Patcher for Mojave) (start with High Sierra and not Mojave if you're new to hackintosh). Install CLOVER (Legacy) on installer USB using attached EFI as your guide for patched ACPI, kexts and config.plist Install MacOS to your SSD.  When you run DosDude's Mojave Patcher, DO NOT install LegacyUSBInjector.kext - you're going to use Rehabman's USBInjectAll.kext.  Also, do not install the DosDude SIP kext (you're using CLOVER to manage SIP). Install the following kexts in /Library/Extensions:  ACPIBatteryManager.kext, AirportBrcmFixup.kext, BrcmFirmwareRepo.kext, BrcmPatchRAM2.kext, FakeSMC.kext, FakeSMC_ACPISensors.kext, FakeSMC_CPUSensors.kext, FakeSMC_GPUSensors.kext, FakeSMC_LPCSensors.kext, IntelMausiEthernet.kext, Lilu.kext, USBInjectAll.kext, VoodooPS2Controller.kext (the "Refined ALPS Touchpad driver," not the original), VoodooSDHC.kext (configured as shown here). Switch Command and Option keys to compensate for Refined ALPS driver issue (System Preferences > Keyboard > Modifier Keys).  Also change keyboard type to ISO European to fix the [ ` ~ ] key (to the left of the "1" (one) key. Install VoodooHDA Install HWMonitor application  
      Tips for Improved Performance (on this and other older systems)
      System Preferences > Spotlight > Search Results: Uncheck all options System Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy: Add all Volumes System Preferences > Accessibility > Display: Check "Reduce motion" System Preferences > Accessibility > Display: Check "Reduce transparency"  
      Other tips
      If your fan is always running and temps are good, try pressing Fn + z After applying Mojave updates, HWMonitor may not display discrete graphics attributes.  On systems with multiple displays, a second (or third display) may not be active after applying the Mojave update.  The solution to this is to run "sudo kextcache -i /" (in a terminal window) and reboot.  This will usually fix the issue.  If the issue is not fixed, run DosDude's Post Install Utility, apply the Legacy Graphics Patch, reboot and then run "sudo kextcache -i /" if necessary.  
      Credits
      In addition to those mentioned in this first post and in subsequent posts in this thread, much of this solution for the Latitude E6410 was made possible by the numerous contributions of @RehabMan.  I hope he's doing well, wherever he is.  Hopefully he has long since forgotten what a PIA I was (and still am) as I was (and still am) learning hackOS.  
       


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