a00 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hey, These are my specs: Shuttle SN27P2 AMD X2 4600+ (AM2) 2x 320gb SATA II drives 1x external 200gb drive via usb BFG 7600 OC GT Linksys WMP54G v4.4 network card I'm installing OSX on a 20gb partition of my external 200gb harddrive. It installs fine, but bootup takes a long time. Once I'm in, OSX runs really sluggish (takes awhile to load stuff and I get the spinny ball a lot). Im using OSX 10.4.7 by Jas, and installed only the AMD Patches provided with the dvd. I unchecked the printer drivers, language stuff etc. Can my system even run OSX?? or are AMD systems destined to be slow with osx??? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^kaneda Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 osx86 runs really well with my a64 3000+ solo core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenared Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hey,These are my specs: Shuttle SN27P2 AMD X2 4600+ (AM2) 2x 320gb SATA II drives 1x external 200gb drive via usb BFG 7600 OC GT Linksys WMP54G v4.4 network card I'm installing OSX on a 20gb partition of my external 200gb harddrive. It installs fine, but bootup takes a long time. Once I'm in, OSX runs really sluggish (takes awhile to load stuff and I get the spinny ball a lot). Im using OSX 10.4.7 by Jas, and installed only the AMD Patches provided with the dvd. I unchecked the printer drivers, language stuff etc. Can my system even run OSX?? or are AMD systems destined to be slow with osx??? Thanks Ive seen this on an amd laptop, is there a bios update for that shuttle? I updated my shuttle which is an intel shuttle that had similar problems.. and the bios update worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a00 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 Nope I'm using the latest bios, which is the one that came with the Shuttle It still runs really slow Im using wingrub to boot, if that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 i heard that if you disable one of the CPU cores it'll run a load faster. ymmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a00 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 yeah ive tried that and it still runs really slow you think it has something to do with my nforce 550 chipset??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrey Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Post your XBench/Geekbench scores so we can see where the problem lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a00 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 Here is my Xbench Result: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results 16.53 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.7 (8J2135) Physical RAM 2048 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type WDC WD20 00JB-00GVC0 CPU Test 80.82 GCD Loop 140.53 7.41 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 85.18 2.02 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 50.51 1.67 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 92.27 16.07 Mops/sec Thread Test 82.39 Computation 60.74 1.23 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 128.00 5.51 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 152.55 System 136.16 Allocate 118.02 433.39 Kalloc/sec Fill 160.06 7782.47 MB/sec Copy 136.77 2825.03 MB/sec Stream 173.41 Copy 170.59 3523.51 MB/sec Scale 158.76 3280.00 MB/sec Add 184.94 3939.55 MB/sec Triad 181.86 3890.44 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 121.47 Line 100.66 6.70 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 138.14 41.24 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 130.38 10.63 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 125.04 3.15 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 120.15 7.52 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 43.03 Spinning Squares 43.03 54.58 frames/sec User Interface Test 138.49 Elements 138.49 635.58 refresh/sec Disk Test 2.83 Sequential 1.88 Uncached Write 1.67 1.03 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 1.70 0.96 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 2.22 0.65 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 2.02 1.02 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 5.73 Uncached Write 5.96 0.63 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 3.10 0.99 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 47.19 0.33 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 5.36 0.99 MB/sec [256K blocks] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geekbench: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last login: Mon Oct 2 14:37:43 on console Welcome to Darwin! /Volumes/Geekbench\ 2006/geekbench-rosetta; exit jl-jls-computer:~ jljl$ /Volumes/Geekbench\ 2006/geekbench-rosetta; exit Geekbench 2006 (build 200). Email geekbench@geekpatrol.ca with feedback. System Information Geekbench Version: Geekbench 2006 (build 200) Geekbench Platform: Mac OS X PPC Geekbench Compiler: GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5363) OS: Mac OS X 10.4.7 (Build 8J2135) Model: Rosetta Motherboard: PowerMac Processor: PowerPC G4 (7400) Processor ID: 18, 10 Logical Processor Count: 1 Physical Processor Count: 1 Processor Frequency: 2410 MHz Bus Frequency: 201 MHz Memory: 2048 MB Integer Performance Emulate 6502 single-threaded scalar 94.2 (rate: 1.0, result: 178.1 MHz) multi-threaded scalar 94.4 (rate: 1.0, result: 178.3 MHz) Blowfish single-threaded scalar 140.9 (rate: 1.0, result: 58.1 MB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 141.0 (rate: 1.0, result: 58.2 MB/sec) bzip2 Compress single-threaded scalar 107.4 (rate: 1.0, result: 16.7 MB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 109.0 (rate: 1.0, result: 16.9 MB/sec) bzip2 Decompress single-threaded scalar 105.8 (rate: 1.0, result: 39.4 MB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 109.6 (rate: 1.0, result: 39.5 MB/sec) Floating Point Performance Mandelbrot single-threaded scalar 71.8 (rate: 1.0, result: 509.1 Mflops) multi-threaded scalar 71.9 (rate: 1.0, result: 509.0 Mflops) Dot Product single-threaded scalar 70.5 (rate: 1.0, result: 112.2 Mflops) multi-threaded scalar 68.2 (rate: 1.0, result: 112.4 Mflops) single-threaded vector 41.2 (rate: 5.2, result: 582.8 Mflops) multi-threaded vector 41.8 (rate: 5.4, result: 602.8 Mflops) JPEG Compress single-threaded scalar 95.3 (rate: 1.0, result: 8.9 Mpixels/sec) multi-threaded scalar 95.8 (rate: 1.0, result: 8.9 Mpixels/sec) JPEG Decompress single-threaded scalar 80.2 (rate: 1.0, result: 13.3 Mpixels/sec) multi-threaded scalar 82.5 (rate: 1.0, result: 13.7 Mpixels/sec) Memory Performance Read Sequential single-threaded scalar 160.8 (rate: 1.0, result: 2.0 GB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 167.0 (rate: 0.5, result: 1.0 GB/sec) Write Sequential single-threaded scalar 269.0 (rate: 1.0, result: 2.0 GB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 255.2 (rate: 0.5, result: 980.1 MB/sec) Stdlib Allocate single-threaded scalar 60.3 (rate: 1.0, result: 2.1 Mallocs/sec) multi-threaded scalar 61.4 (rate: 1.0, result: 2.2 Mallocs/sec) Stdlib Write single-threaded scalar 188.4 (rate: 1.0, result: 4.8 GB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 229.8 (rate: 1.1, result: 5.4 GB/sec) Stdlib Copy single-threaded scalar 198.9 (rate: 1.0, result: 2.2 GB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 223.7 (rate: 1.1, result: 2.3 GB/sec) Stream Performance Stream Copy single-threaded scalar 95.1 (rate: 1.0, result: 1.2 GB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 95.3 (rate: 1.0, result: 1.2 GB/sec) single-threaded vector 164.8 (rate: 1.9, result: 2.2 GB/sec) multi-threaded vector 162.9 (rate: 1.9, result: 2.2 GB/sec) Stream Scale single-threaded scalar 60.7 (rate: 1.0, result: 723.1 MB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 59.4 (rate: 1.0, result: 715.7 MB/sec) single-threaded vector 155.3 (rate: 3.0, result: 2.1 GB/sec) multi-threaded vector 155.1 (rate: 3.0, result: 2.1 GB/sec) Stream Add single-threaded scalar 75.2 (rate: 1.0, result: 1001.9 MB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 75.1 (rate: 1.0, result: 1.0 GB/sec) single-threaded vector 158.0 (rate: 2.2, result: 2.2 GB/sec) multi-threaded vector 159.2 (rate: 2.3, result: 2.3 GB/sec) Stream Triad single-threaded scalar 59.4 (rate: 1.0, result: 790.4 MB/sec) multi-threaded scalar 58.1 (rate: 1.0, result: 798.4 MB/sec) single-threaded vector 132.0 (rate: 2.9, result: 2.3 GB/sec) multi-threaded vector 129.1 (rate: 3.0, result: 2.3 GB/sec) Overall Score: 118.9 Submit results to geekpatrol.ca? 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Andrey Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Your video/processor performance is more than acceptable. Your dismal Disk Test score in XBench is the culprit. Less than 2MB/sec. from those tests means your OS X is using the AppleGenericATA driver kext in the IOATAFamily kext [or sometimes just in the Extensions folder]. There are a couple of reasons for this. Either you *have* a proper IDE driver installed [look for AppleOnBoardPCATA in either of the two above locations] and the system is defaulting to the Generic version mistakenly [happened to me, simply delete all kexts named AppleGenericATA], or you *don't* have a compatible IDE driver and OS X is defaulting to the Generic one because there is no alternative. To test the theory, first open System Profiler and under the Extensions item, see which of the ATA kexts are currently loaded. Assuming only the Generic one is present, try moving the Generic kext out of the extensions folder and onto the root directory of the hard disk. Use the root directory of the hard disk in case you need to restore it if it makes the system unresponsive. Reboot. If the system boots still, that means the Generic kext was impeding the loading of the OnBoardATA one, and life should improve greatly. If the system doesn't boot, boot off your install DVD and use Terminal to move the kext from the root of your hard disk back to the Extensions folder. Don't forget to repair permissions after every relevant step to avoid conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a00 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 hmmmmm I can't even view info about "this mac" if i click on it, itll restart ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrey Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 try opening System Profiler from the Applications>Utilities folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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