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Notice you're comparing the performance of the dual socket model to the single socket new model. So the new CPU is more than twice faster than the previous model. Not bad I say, but it would be really great if you could order a new MacPro with dual CPU and single GPU (it looks modular so it may be possible Apple will offer the alternative, who knows)

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Personally the design doesn't bother me - sure it looks a little bit like a trash can and it's black instead of the silver we all love, but I know tons of creative professionals who will be pleased at the space-saving design.

 

I think getting rid of the DVD drive is a mistake - not a HUGE one, but enough to inconvenience users. I thought I was done with DVDs until I started editing video more - though many professionals share work in the cloud now, most CLIENTS are still going to want a DVD copy of the work they pay for. I still get funny looks when I hand over wedding photos to clients on a USB drive, let alone video work. Now if Apple offers a CHEAP DVD add-on (hell, it should be free) that could sit under the new Mac Pro and fit seamlessly, that's a little bit different, but looking at the bottom of the new MP I think it would destabilize it some.

 

The hardware, on the other hand, seems to be aimed at maximizing profit over convenience. While this is in line with Apple's M.O., at least older MP have some level of user-based upgradeability.

 

In regards to the thunderbolt complaints, we should keep in mind that it's still a very new technology (using the term "new" to indicate level of implementation, not in temporal terms). Even USB 3.0 cables and peripherals were considerably more expensive than they are now - as more people switch over the price will drop. No, it's not fun for those wanting to make the switch to TB now, but it's not exactly a phenomenon that is unique to Apple.

 

Really it doesn't matter what I think - I'll be buying  one of these in 2018 when they are cheap on the used market. Until then, it's hackintosh parts in an old Mac Pro case for me!

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Computers (as any other hardware they sell) are regarded/designed (by Apple) as a home appliance (like washing machine or vacuum cleaner if you will), that is a fully functional device ready to be used out of the box. Therefore they make not only design/hardware (in a sense), but a purpose-build software for the device, for it to be fully functional and self contained.

 

Washing machines or vacuum cleaner are not meant to be upgradeable by user (fixed at best if a user is qualified enough). On the other hand, PC users consider computers as a user serviceable/upgradeable device and usually these are sold as such (desktops at least). OS there is a separate product.

 

Is the concept used by Apple wrong? IMO for some part it is, but since Apple computers are sold well enough, probably many people don't mind the concept at all.

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Computers (as any other hardware they sell) are regarded/designed (by Apple) as a home appliance (like washing machine or vacuum cleaner if you will), that is a fully functional device ready to be used out of the box. Therefore they make not only design/hardware (in a sense), but a purpose-build software for the device, for it to be fully functional and self contained.

 

Washing machines or vacuum cleaner are not meant to be upgradeable by user (fixed at best if a user is qualified enough). On the other hand, PC users consider computers as a user serviceable/upgradeable device and usually these are sold as such (desktops at least). OS there is a separate product.

 

Is the concept used by Apple wrong? IMO for some part it is, but since Apple computers are sold well enough, probably many people don't mind the concept at all.

I like the analogy, but I think a better comparison would be to a car. In fact, even Bill Gates has made that analogy before.

 

In that comparison, 95% of the people who buy a car will never, ever upgrade any component of that car. However, there are tons of stores (Checker, Advance, Autozone, Pep Boys, etc) dedicated to the 5% that will either buy an aftermarket replacement part or an aftermarket upgrade for their car. While the vast majority of car companies never see an interest in people wanting to do upgrades or customize their cars, the option is still there. Lets take the worlds fastest (and I think the most expensive) supercar - the Bugatti Veyron. Not much to customize there, but you can at least choose the color!

 

And with regard to the Light Peak... Thunderbolt complaints, I think that most people understand that the cost issue should be negated as time goes on - what wont be negated is that a device that I used to be able to install internally now must be external, necessitating an external box and an external cable. No way around that now.

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I'll continue car analogy :)

 

A person can buy a full packaged Porsche Panamera, get it upgraded heavily by a tuning company and get something very special for much less then Bugatti Veyron cost. Much more options for far lesser price.

 

I guess it's what we discuss here in the forum :)

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I'll continue car analogy :)

 

A person can buy a full packaged Porsche Panamera, get it upgraded heavily by a tuning company and get something very special for much less then Bugatti Veyron cost. Much more options for far lesser price.

 

I guess it's what we discuss here in the forum :)

 

Very well said, Mr 3.14r2 :) .

 

So now the question is: will there be a juicy market for TB peripherals / upgrades / coffee machines / whatever, or is it already a doomed braindead zombie condemned to haunt the cemetery of computer hardware failures history ? :ph34r:

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 is it already a doomed braindead zombie condemned to haunt the cemetery of computer hardware failures history ? :ph34r:

 

Exactly. Who is going to buy it? Professionals? I think not. Maybe a few Apple zealots who would blindly buy absolutely everything from Apple.

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So now the question is: will there be a juicy market for TB peripherals / upgrades / coffee machines / whatever, or is it already a doomed braindead zombie condemned to haunt the cemetery of computer hardware failures history ? :ph34r:

If Apple's marketing department is still in the same shape it has been in S. Jobs era, there will definitely be TB upgrade market. Look how good iPad/iPhone/iPod accessories market blossom. Especially with Apple making previously bought accessories unusable with every new generation of devices. :)

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Yes, but in this case we aren't talking about gadgets like the iPad/iPhone/iPod. We are talking about a computer meant for professionals who must do real work. I doubt if many of them want to buy a computer that is so different than anything they know, something that looks more like a proof of concept.

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Yes, but in this case we aren't talking about gadgets like the iPad/iPhone/iPod. We are talking about a computer meant for professionals who must do real work. I doubt if many of them want to buy a computer that is so different than anything they know, something that looks more like a proof of concept.

 

Explaining this seems to be a lost cause because non professional users will never see how the new Mac Pro is such a disappointment to the professional mac community. Tried explaining and people just don't get it because they do use there Mac's for professional work... Frustrating

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This is the first time in Apple's entire history that they won't be selling a computer with expansion slots. When the early Macs didn't have them, Apple was still selling the Apple IIe.

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I'm still SHOCKED that this machine gets ONLY 23,000+ for GeekBench scores. I was sure that this was going to run circles around my Hackinbeast... I was thinkin' that this new Trashcan Pro was going to least get 35,000 - 40,000+ for a GB score... I guess not. So for anyone that has an EVGA SR-2 Mobo system setup is going not only hold the record for being the best mobo for the last 3+ years, but it looks like it will hold it for another 2 to 3 years. Now THAT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT !!! Maybe I'm wrong here and the final release of the new Trashcan Pro will perform well beyond our imagination... but I doubt it... I hope I'm proven wrong...

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2! Thunderbolt 2! I honestly doubt any pro will need to upgrade graphics for a long time due to the huge stock offering from Apple - unlike old MacPros, which had pretty weak options from factory - and then thunderbolt 2 will be way more than need to handle any expansion (high-end PCI audio cards, storage, etc). In fact, it will offer the possibility of much faster peripherals than ever before and, stress this, faster than any competition. And given the huge amount of devices that can be daisy-chained in the dual TB2 ports - up to 36! - alone make it indeed more expandable than ever before, and than any competitor, despite not being as upgradable and user-serviceable (the latter, i dare to say, is more a prosumer/enthusiast desire than really a high-profile professional - the target niche - need).

 

After analyzing this for a while, i think folks are being a little out of tune on this, mixing apples and oranges in the criticism, and complaining of the lack of a thing Apple was never really prone to offer, at least in this century. C'mon, guys! It's a heck of a machine, will probably be the best workstation around (not the fastest, but speed is not everything, albeit important) for a few years and will fulfill and deliver exactly what is expected from a Macintosh workstation.

 

All the best!

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2! Thunderbolt 2! I honestly doubt any pro will need to upgrade graphics for a long time due to the huge stock offering from Apple - unlike old MacPros, which had pretty weak options from factory - and then thunderbolt 2 will be way more than need to handle any expansion (high-end PCI audio cards, storage, etc). In fact, it will offer the possibility of much faster peripherals than ever before and, stress this, faster than any competition. And given the huge amount of devices that can be daisy-chained in the dual TB2 ports - up to 36! - it's indeed more expandable than ever before, and than any competitor, despite not being as upgradable and user-serviceable (the latter, i dare to say, is more a prosumer/enthusiast desire than really a high-profile professional - the target niche - need).

 

After analyzing this for a while, i think folks are being a little out of tune on this, mixing apples and oranges in the criticism, and complaining of the lack of a thing Apple was never really prone to offer, at least in this century. C'mon, guys! It's a heck of a machine, will probably be the best workstation around (not the fastest, but speed is not everything, albeit important) for a few years and will fulfill and deliver exactly what is expected from a Macintosh workstation.

 

All the best!

 

CUDA CUDA CUDA.  With no CUDA rendering support many people who use this will be left out in the cold. 

 

TB is a lot slower the full PCIe 3.0 x16 lanes and at the rate intel is going will stay this way for a long time. 

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No other peripherals except for graphics needs 16x PCI-e speed, Rampage, and my point is, you won't need to upgrade graphics at all, since - repeating myself - the huge stock offering. Adobe already starting moving towards OpenCL (where AMD cards beat all the competition: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQwMDI) since the keynote (source: http://www.dslrfilmnoob.com/2013/07/09/adobe-cc-official-opencl-support-update/), no doubt others will follow, and you can be quite certain all Apple pro apps (which are the best software aimed at the target niche, including the already vastly improved latest iteration of FCP X) will rely heavily on OpenCL. The CUDA support will be no issue by the time the new MacPro is out, so this is a straw man, sorry to say.

 

All the best!

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No other peripherals except for graphics needs 16x PCI-e speed, Rampage, and my point is, you won't need to upgrade graphics at all, since - repeating myself - the huge stock offering. Adobe already starting moving towards OpenCL (where AMD cards beat all the competition: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQwMDI) since the keynote (source: http://www.dslrfilmnoob.com/2013/07/09/adobe-cc-official-opencl-support-update/), no doubt others will follow, and you can be quite certain all Apple pro apps (which are the best software aimed at the target niche, including the already vastly improved latest iteration of FCP X) will rely heavily on OpenCL. The CUDA support will be no issue by the time the new MacPro is out, so this is a straw man, sorry to say.

 

All the best!

 

HAHAHA If you only knew what pro users need CUDA for... OpenCL can not compute a lot of different formats and the Mac Pro fails in other areas as well. Its called plugs which use CUDA to stay off the CPU and OpenCL does not support this type of plugin which puts more on the CPU and Ram and not on the fastest processing power on the system. 

 

The new Mac Pro is for Apple fans and not real Pros. 

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Would you care to elaborate, Rampage? I work (meaning i make a living doing that) with multimedia content (yeah, audio and video) creation and production - mostly music/audio, i confess, but also graphic design and video producing - so i'm what's called a "pro", i suppose - but it's never too late to learn and so it is: what's exactly the formats that won't work under OpenCL (and that are essential to my work) and what plug-ins that could not be replaced by other OpenCL compatible ones that will do the same job for me?

 

Remember we're talking about an Apple-only environment here, so these plug-ins will have to work under FCP-X/Motion and Logic Pro/SoundtrackPro/Compressor. I also use the CS6 suite a lot, specially for outdoor ads creation, mostly Illustrator, Photoshop and InDesign, so you could list stuff related to it (i use a GTX460 on the studio, CUDA always turned on, had to enable it using a trick btw).

 

Not that the current circumstances matter that much, just to say: as i said - with a link supporting it, but i can provide plenty - industry leaders are moving towards OpenCL. And even if Apple did it alone - since its software is still among the leaders of the market (okay, it suffered a huge blow with the first iteration of FCPX, but it's gaining traction again, partly because of constant updating and improvement, partly thanks to Adobe's stupidest decision to move to the cloud) - it would be more than enough for its audience. They don't care about enthusiasts and don't need to, and they don't care about Premiere/AfterEffects/Windows pro users and don't need to, since many leaders of the industry are and want to stay with Apple software/hardware combo - and Adobe is moving to OpenCL anyway (see sources posted).

 

But all the FUD about the MacPro is indeed scaring people, and it's a shame because it's quite clear it's indeed FUD: despite you having a point here and i concede that, about CUDA (and even this is debatable), the statements about the new MacPro killing expandability are false (the opposite is true!), and the complaints about user-serviceability and upgradability, falsely raised as expandability issues, are absurd, since Apple offers in those fields were always crippled at best, and most high-profile professionals (the individuals and companies that earn big money, not myself) do not really care about them.

 

All the best!

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I have been following this discussion somewhat, and I would just like to point out my own personal opinion. I don't think the issue Rampage Dev is bringing up really has much to do with CUDA in a broader sense; moreover, the issue is simply with the potential of the new Mac Pro in regard to expandability, internal or external. Nearly all fairly recent desktop PCs and, it's true, all the old Mac Pros have the potential to use a PCI Express 2.0 GPU (or anything else that might happen to call for a theoretical maximum of 8 GBps bandwidth), whereas the new Mac Pro has no such potential. Suppose I buy the new Mac Pro for goodness-knows-what-price (Let's just say it's a significant investment) "later this year." Now suppose I have used this system happily for four years, it's a bit outdated, but the only components that are really limiting me are the GPUs. Suppose there's a GPU, perfectly content to use a PCI Express 2.0 slot, available that would be just the upgrade that would bring my Mac Pro back to life. However, the very best my Mac Pro can do for expansion is via its Thunderbolt port, 2.5 GBps, and suppose that speed would horribly cripple this hypothetical GPU. Now isn't that a sad picture? I could have invested all that money into a Hackintosh or, heck, even one of the older Mac Pros, and it would still be more expandable than this fancy black cylinder, and, most importantly, it would still fit my needs for a few more years at least.

 

Notwithstanding all that, I much prefer having a big box that holds all my GPUs, HDDs, and any other expansion cards than having a small black cylinder, a mess of external HDDs, another box to hold expansion cards, and so on and so forth.

 

Just so y'all know, I've never owned an Apple product and don't intend to for the foreseeable future, so I'm just stating what I think about the new Mac Pro's usability as a computer in general. Specifically, and in conclusion, the new Mac Pro does not really meet my standards for use as a desktop computer, whereas everything I've seen and heard about the "old" Mac Pro makes it look like a machine with which I'd be happy if it weren't for the price.

 

There's my two cents; sorry if it looks more like ten. And after saying all that, really, if the new Mac Pro is just the machine for you, who am I to say otherwise?

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and it would still be more expandable than this fancy black cylinder

 

There's my two cents

 

No, it wouldn't be more expandable, just more upgradable and user-serviceable. Saying otherwise is not "just your opinion", it's objectively false outright. Simple as that. Precisely this kind of incorrect statement, mixing apples and oranges as if they were the same, is what's helping to spread the FUD. The new mac pro, thanks to the TB2 ports, is more expandable (again, not upgradable or user-serviceable) than any other past Macintosh computer and, more importantly, more expandable than any of the professional workstations it is set to compete

 

My point is, the industry leading multimedia professionals - who are the target audience (not "Apple fanboys") and who mostly already use Apple hardware and in many cases, software - don't really care about user-serviceability and won't feel the need to upgrade graphics, since they'll have the best, maxed out configuration, for the Apple software they already use (i already posted sources about how AMD crush nVidia in OpenCL) and even the Adobe ocasional user (since Adobe's cleverly improving OpenCL support).

 

Enthusiasts and prosumers and professionals with smaller budgets (such as me) might as well need an user-serviceable and upgradable machine so to fix it ourselves and make it better step by step, when we can afford to. This is not true on the high profile professional level! This kind of individual/company wants a solution that offers out of the box the best performance for the tools they use (and the net MacPro will offer it), compatible with the newest standards of the industry they work (and this, only the new MacPro will offer) and, more importantly then all, with the best support possible (and no company beats Apple Care support, would you disagree?). This high-end professional is their audience, not us.

 

All the best!

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      In the pyramid-pictures they are always on top, because they were finished last and taken to the workshop more often.
       
      The 14 best cases got equipped with a 600W PSU, front-panel, water-cooling (for the mATX Barebones), apple power-cables, etc…
       
      They are now proper Barebones. No more hard work needed to finish the build.
      Just missing a motherboard (and maybe hard drives) - and done.
       

      12 other cases did not end up perfectly painted, but still good. Some orange peel here and there. Only 4 of them have stronger orange peel. I will call these 12 cases “Empty Ones” in the following.
       

      An “empty case”
       
      What to do with the “Empty Ones”?
      They are also clean and modded. Ready for ATX or mATX boards, empty PSU-Enclosure…
      One could make furniture or art out of them…
      One could finish the mod with a new front panel.
      Or one could paint them again in a different colour…
      I don’t know…
       
       
       
      Let’s start from the beginning:
       
       
      Delivery: first we sorted the cases from “good condition” to “scratched and scuffed”
      This sorting turned out to be useless, later as I ended up sanding, filling and painting all of them. I chose the best ones in the end.
       

      We disassembled everything and sorted the parts – plastics, aluminium, batteries, electronics, etc… then gave everything to recycling. I am an environmental engineer, so this was important to me. I gave away all parts that could possibly be reused - Like fans, RAM and graphics cards.
      There are no pictures of the disassembly, because it has been done by many people already and we were also too busy (it took a couple of days).
      We ended up making our own tools and screwdrivers for removing the processors and mainboards, because many screws are hard to reach.
       
      All parts that I wanted to keep were cleaned and kept separately. E.g. the fan grilles on the back, the rubber screws for the HDD Caddy or the DVD-drive stand-offs
       
       
       
      Planning & Conversion
       
      Then I made a plan for the easiest ATX conversion with the least cutting.
      Best thing to do: Cut an opening to the back - big enough for ATX boards I/O and reuse the original PCIe slots for graphics cards. This turned out to be just perfect. I tested different boards. E.g.: ASUS TUF X99 (ATX) and ASrock AB350M (mATX)
       
       

      Night shift – working with the Dremel
       

      First cut for the ATX Mainboard I/O.
      All the Internals are removed. Also, the fan grille with its many mini-screws. So that the plastic is not melting.
       

      Cut-out (before filing and sanding). Sharp edges. Straight cut of the long sides thanks to the big angle grinder. Shorter sides were done with the Dremel for precision towards the edges.
      Then the filing and sanding removed all sharp edges.
       

      I removed all the Motherboard standoffs from the inside, cleaned the surface with Isopropyl alcohol and glued the standoffs in the new places for ATX Boards using the 2K Aluminium Epoxy. This took a lot of measure to fit a mainboard in the right position for the PCIe-Slots. I bought test-boards that were placed in the empty case with a graphics card plugged in and then the screwholes werde marked on the stencils.
       

      I made two different stencils. One for ATX Boards and one for mATX Boards:
       

      Putting the standoff through the stencil and securing it with a screw
       

      Cleaning the surface before gluing.

      Both stencils with standoffs and fresh glue – right before placing it in the cases
       

      ATX stencil in the case – gluing down the standoffs.
       

      mATX stencil while gluing. It had to sit like this over night to make sure the glue is hard.
       
      Then, the stencil was taken out. There is no tray necessary under the mainboard. All stand-offs / threads are in the right position for standart mainboards, now.
       

      Now that all the disassembly, cutting and gluing was done it was time for some fresh paint.
       
       
       
      The painting:
       
      Before painting it was necessary to fill dents, file edges (there were chips, especially on the feet) and sand EVERYTHING to smoothen the surface and remove unwanted oils.
      Fill, file, sand, repeat…
      I used 2K Aluminium epoxy to fill dents

       

      The Epoxy is like a cold weld. Hard and sturdy.
       

      Dents before filling
       

      Dents after filling - before sanding
       

      More filling
       

      Filled and sanded case.
       

      At first I did not want to paint them myself.
      So I bought the right 2K-Aluminium-paint (had to try different ones to find the perfect colour and shade) and handed four cases with the paint over to a professional paint shop (arm-industry - specialized on parts for tanks).
      They were happy to try this because they wanted to train their varnisher-apprentices on something that is more difficult than the usual tank-parts.
       
       

      The results were good, but It turned out that these cases are really hard to paint…
       
      I was not 100% happy with the result. They returned from the paint-shop with some varnish-runs on the bottom of the cases. They also missed some spots that were hard to reach.
      So, I changed my mind and decided to paint all the cases, myself (again...)
      What a fool I was.
      This took a week.
       
      First of all, I needed a cleanroom.
      So, I converted a shed in my parents’ garden.
       

      Shed / Cleanroom – Winter-time
       

      Thanks to my brothers’ help, the setup turned out really clean and airtight. Crucial for keeping it warm.
       

      To keep the shed warm, I used a big oven and additional electric heaters. My father even set up a big chimney, so that the smoke was led further away from the shed (as smoke=small particles that would  leave  marks on the fresh paint).
       

      I had a compressor on hand (with 30m hose) and used a spray-gun for coating the cases with Aluminium-paint. We used the spray-gun for car parts before.
       

      Paint-Shed from the inside
       

      Hanging case before spray-painting
       

      Usually two or three cases were sprayed at a time.
      All cases were sprayed at least two times with thin coats.
       

      After spray-painting it was time for drying
       

      The freshly sprayed cases were put in a sauna at roughly 80 degrees Celsius. That sped up the hardening and caked the varnish in.
       
       
      The fully varnished cases after drying. This is the result:
       
       

       

       

       

       
       

      The cases with the white bar on the back have the original Apple 2x2 Wifi / Bluetooth antennas in them (with two plugs) I installed a second 2x2 Antenna. Now they are 4x4.
      The (IPEX? MHF?) connectors are bigger than those I have seen before. They don’t fit the tiny connectors on laptop-wifi-cards.
      Maybe someone used the Apple Antennas with a PCIe Wifi-card before and can give me a tip or even post a link?
       

       

       

       
       
       
      The “Empty Ones”:
       
      This is what the 12 empty cases look like, that have some orange-peel skin:
       

      Basicaly the underside of ALL cases looks like this - because they were placed on their feet for drying or Spraying. You will never see this when the case is standing on its feet.
       

      An “empty-one” - ready for ATX boards.
       

      Empty PSU-Enclosure is installed. Fan-bracket is in place. Sometimes still with apple fans.
       

      A finished ”empty” mATX case
       

      You can see some orange-peel skin or varnish-runs on the “Empty Ones”
       
       
       
      I modded the 12 best-painted cases to create fully-modded Barebones:
       
      Time for re-assembly:
       
       
       
      Fan-Bracket:
       

      The Apple-fans were removed from the fan bracket. They were loud and needed re-wiring anyways. It is recommended to put more modern fans in there. I renewed the rubber-fixings where necessary. You do not need screws to put fans in. They are held in and decoupled by the rubber. Vibration is not passed on to the case.
       

      I put the PCIe slot brackets back in (they were also painted, of course) using the rubber-headed HDD screws from other cases. In case you want to add more HDDs you have the right screws at hand.
       

      The fan-bracket fits in its original position. That works fine for most Mainboards. If you have a Mainboard with very high VRM heatsinks or high I/O (e.g. with 6 stacked USB-Ports) you can either remove the fan bracket completely (I did that for my brothers build and just clamped some BeQuiet! Silent-Wings 2 - 92mm in) or move the bracket up a bit - by not inserting the hooks under the lip, but rather clamping the bracket above the lip (I did that for the Ryzentosh, it is also very stable).
       

      The bracket holds two 92mm x 25mm Fans
      My favourite: Noctua NF-B9 redux-1600 PWM - 92mm
      They look like the original ones and are very quiet. (I used them in two projects)
       

      Cheaper Arctic PWM Fans for testing
       
       
       
      Front-Panel:
       
       

      The Power-Buttons needed to be painted, as well. Over time they lost some of their thin chrome coating due to touching. The 2-K varnish is thicker and will be much more durable.
       

      Secured the power-buttons down using double-sided tape during varnishing
       

      To make them fit perfectly again, I needed to scrape of excess paint from the sides. The buttons would easily get stuck otherwise.
       

      The case without any front-panel board or power-button.
       
      Half of the G5s I bought were “late 2005” models. The front-panel-boards of all G5s have the same size and fit in all the cases.
      Only models before “late 2005” have a front panel connector-socket. So, I had 14 front-panels that could be used with BlackCH-Mods-cables, and 14 perfectly painted cases. That’s a match.
       

      Re-installing the power-button board with its securing ring. This took a long time because every button had to be re-adjusted to work nicely again.
      Also notice the rubber piece on the right-hand side. This is needed to support the front-panel board when plugging in the cable to the connector:
       

      Installation of the front-panel board.
       

      The housing of the front-panel board has also been painted.
       

      The custom-made front-panel cable by BlackCH Mods. They were not cheap but they work.
      I marked all the connectors on one of the cables to make them easier to identify.
      Audio works perfectly even though there is a proprietary sensing pin on apples board. I recommend to set the front-panel type to “AC’97” in the BIOS / UEFI instead of the default “HD Audio”. That way the front panel audio is basically ON all the time and you can choose other outputs from the task-bar. I used Realtek drivers for Windows in my last two builds.  For a Hackintosh you would need to follow BlackCH Mods manual or ask the community about the best settings.
       

      Plugging in the mod-cable to the front-panel connector.
       

      Securing the plug with the black cap. It is pushed down even further than shown in the picture – so it clipped on to the board itself to give the connector more pressure and therefore stability.
       
       
       
      DVD / Blu-Ray drive:
       
       

      Eject the disc tray with a  paper clip.
       

      Unclip the front-plate, so it does not get stuck in the auto-opening Apple-aperture
       

      Screw in the stand-off screws (I saved those)
       

      Standoffs installed
       

      Finally, slide the drive into the mounting-bracket and close the two little retention arms. Done.
       
       
       
      PSU (Power Supply Unit):
       
       
      I thought a long time about the perfect PSU.
      I really wanted to re-use the original PSU-housing, because of the clever placement in the case. It sits flush with the mainboard at the bottom and the original power- socket is a MUST to reuse for aesthetics and stability.
       

      The original Apple power-plug with Apple power-cable.
       
      How do you get a new PSU into the original Apple PSU?
      I did not want to crack open a standart ATX PSU and jerry-rig its sensible (and dangerous) electronics into the original PSU-housing.
      So, I looked for a server-PSU that would fit inside the original housing completely with own housing and fan. Safe and sound.
      Not an easy task setting those up, because server PSUs often have proprietary connectors.
       
      Also, I wanted 600 Watts of output power to drive any overclocked CPU with a powerful graphics card like the GTX 1080Ti.
       

      Soldering on the new -internal- power-cable to the original power-socket in the Apple PSU housing.
       

      Shrink-tube protects the soldered joints.
       
      The cable will be connected to the new PSU inside. As an extension.
      The input-filter is still connected to the socket.
       

      The Apple power-cord.
       
       
      I found the perfect PSU.
      A 600W PSU by Supermicro.
       
      Supermicro is a very known brand in the professional server market. So, I can trust those PSUs to constantly deliver real 600Watts. They are designed to run under full load for years. Hence, they can be really expensive.
      Many cheap PSUs just claim to be 600W but struggle to hold that power up for longer periods of time (or they degrade). This will not happen with a Supermicro PSU.
       
      The 600W PSU comes with a 80+ Platinum rating.
      That is one of the highest Energy efficiency ratings available.
      Higher than 80+ Gold, Silver or Bronze (which is kind of the standard right now)
       
      80+ Platinum means 92-94% of the Input-power is delivered as output. Only 6-8% is transformed into heat. That was important to me in order to keep the PSU quiet.
       

      All PSUs before they were put in
       

      It has the 1U form factor. So, you could actually fit two of them in the housing.
       

      The 600W PSU plugged into the extension cord.
       

      Securing the PSU in place
       

      The 2005 Powermac Models have a bigger server power-plug (C19) suitable for higher power delivery of over 1000 Watts.
      Almost half of the cases have this kind of plug.
      They also have a bigger input filter.
       

      Soldering the extension on.
       

      Finished housing with server power jack (C19) on the outside and standart plug (C13) on the inside
       

      PSU inside the original Apple-Housing
       

      All the cables come out near the back of the case.
       

      I created bigger openings for the cables to feed through.
       

      All PSUs are prepared
       

      The PSUs and their connectors have been tested with a PSU-tester.
       
      These Server PSUs still have some proprietary connectors (and some cables, that are a bit shorter than usual), So, I bought different adapter-cables and extensions for the PSUs to make everything universal.
       
       
       
      PSU-Cables:
       
       
      - PCIe 8-Pin (2x) for graphics cards (over CPU 8-Pin adapter)
      - CPU (1x 8-Pin, 1x 4-Pin) – actually there is one more 8-Pin, but it is occupied by the PCIe-adapter. So, it is possible to do a dual-CPU setup with a small graphics-card, that does not need a dedicated power plug, as well.
      - Molex (2x) (6x over SATA-Adapter)
      - SATA (5x) (over Molex adapter), black sleeved
      - 24-Pin ATX (20 Pin is possible) + Extension (black) + Dual PSU connector
      - 12V Fan (4x over Molex Adapter), black sleeved
       

      Different types of cables and adapters (in an mATX Case)
       
      You can hide most cables behind the PSU-housing and under the mainboard, as the standoffs that hold the mainboard are quite high. That is the biggest benefit over using one of those tray-adapter-plates that would use up the space behind the mainboard.
       

      The cables in an ATX Case (not hidden / cable-managed)
       
       
       
      HDD-Caddy:
       

      The original Apple 2-Bay HDD-caddy was glued into its new place to be out of the way. Only necessary in the ATX-Cases to fit the bigger ATX Boards in. Using high-temperature silicone.
       

      Molex Power provided by adapter (if needed for 3,5” drives, most new 5400 rpm HDDs don’t even need Molex anymore)
       

      ATX Case with a bit of cable management and the HDD-caddy in place
       
       
       
      Finished ATX Barebones:
       
       

      Finished ATX case with all equipment and the server power-cord
       

      Finished ATX case with the Acrylic cover
       

      Different finished ATX Case with cover and cable management
       
       
       
      Watercooling (mATX Barebones):
       
       
      Now that the “Empty Ones” and the ATX Barebones were finished It was time to mod the mATX Cases.
       
      I added watercooling to the mATX-Barebones:
       

      Best place for the radiator is the front. Here it will blow the hot air directly out of the case.
       

      This is the 240mm radiator for the watercooling of all mATX cases
       

      To decouple the vibration of the loop from the case I used a foam seal on the front of the radiator and a thick silicone-seal on the sides and the top
       

      Gluing the radiator in with special high-temperature silicone. (This Silicone is usually used to attach the IHS to a CPU or to seal an exhaust pipe) – good for temperatures up to 329°C
       

      Radiator in Place. Thick silicone seal is decoupling the vibration of the water-pump that travels through the loop.
       

      The 240mm radiator fits right in between the PSU and the top-compartment.
       
      The mounting kits for this Cooler Master AiO support all modern processors and sockets (775, 1150, 1151, 1155, 1156, 1366, 2011, 2011-3, 2066, AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, AM4, FM1, FM2, FM2+)
       

      Two 120mm high static pressure fans come with the watercooling loop. They blow out.
      You could of course turn the fans around to suck air in (positive pressure).
       
       
       
      Equipment:
       
       
      I saved the important bits and bought cables for all Barebones
       

      Every fully modded Barebone has its own new power-cable (half of them white apple cables, half of them black OEM server cables)
       
      All fully modded Barebones have the acrylic cover
       
      I kept HDD rubber-head screws, DVD-drive standoffs, Pump Mounting Kits in a little bag.
       
       
       
      Finished mATX Barebones with watercooling:
       
       
      Here are some pictures of the internal layout:
      Pictures of the outside can be seen in previous posts.
       

      Finished mATX Barebone
       

      Finished mATX Barebone with all equipment
       

      Finished mATX Barebone with all equipment
       
       
       
      Types of cases & Barebones:
       
       
      What I have right now:
       
      12 fully modded Barebones:
      6 - mATX - with watercooling
      6 - ATX - (eATX boards should also fit)
       
      12 “Empty Ones”
      - 8 prepared for ATX (3 of which have heavier orange-peel)
      - 3 prepared for mATX (1 of which has heavier orange-peel)
       
       
       
      The End:
       
       
      Thats it for now…
      What do you think?
      Was it worth it?
      What hardware would you put in?
      Please let me know…
      ;-)
       
       
      Yours, sincerely
      wise_rice
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