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Yes, I too have been banned. I had been helping people for over 2 years, and in the end got banned for "Blatant disregard of forum rules of having only one account per user." It's pathetic! I made the two accounts before those rules came in! Complete Outrage!

 

Anyway, I will be spending a lot more time on InsanelyMac now. Their loss. 

Welcome!

 

I think the worst part about getting banned there is that unlike here, they delete all your posts. So all the those threads that you helped people in are now missing a lot of useful and helpful information for the community.

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Welcome!

 

I think the worst part about getting banned there is that unlike here, they delete all your posts. So all the those threads that you helped people in are now missing a lot of useful and helpful information for the community.

Not always true: ask to RampageDev

 

He gate a few things written by him (I think a guide), and they force-wanted to restore those things from their cache. 

 

Personally I think that a person has the right to cancel what he writes (and in any case he had the power to do this ok ??), and everyone must accept in silence.

I would be ashamed doing this ... but as I said this is a feeling for those who have it!

chimera.png

 

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hi guys

 

sorry to put a damper on...

 

but I don't see what tonymac clover theme has to do with this thread...

 

I can understand some people be frustrated by tonymac policy but is it reasonable to become almost sick? :huh:  no, I don't think so

 

Personally, I never found this topic particularly interesting, I even wanted to delete it because I think it taints on our forum more than anything else   :rolleyes:  but I'll let our staff team to decide about his fate  ;)

 

more you talk about tonymac, more you give him importance and more it makes him advertising    ;)

 

completely agree with you how can you give credit to a fool and you have to face the facts that this guy is absolutely worthless as it waits for everyone on this site is chewed work claiming that he was the author, it is a completely useless topic instead gives importance to "{censored}" that has no place in the world of hackintosh, as so aptly fantomas1 more you to speak, the better advertising.

 

This topic can be closed completely (void)

 

complètement d'accord avec toi , comment peut-on donner du crédit à un imbécile ? et il faut se rendre à l'évidence que ce mec sert strictement à rien étant donné qu'il attend que tout le monde sur ce site est mâché le travail pour revendiquer qu'il en est l'auteur , c'est un sujet complètement inutile qui au contraire donne de l'importance à un "{censored}" qui n'a pas sa place dans le monde du hackintosh , comme dit si bien fantomas1 plus vous en parlerez , meilleur sera sa publicité .

 

Ce sujet peut-être fermé complètement (nul et non avenu)

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I am sometimes amused by the Tonymac bashing but that really wasn't the point of my making this post.  I wanted to let the people that I collaborated with on that site know that I was banned there and could only contact them via this site.  I also think it is important to give people who have been unfairly banned and had their contributions to the Tonymac forum deleted a place to vent about that.  It really does suck and no one in my real life has any clue what it meant to me to see all of my contributions that spanned a couple years deleted.  The people here realize what that means so you guys are really the only sympathetic ears I had.

 

Has this post been co-opted by Tony-bashers?  Perhaps.  But the original intent of this post still has, in my opinion, a valid purpose.

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TonyMac has just released Chimera 4.0 which is still based on Chameleon, so I guess they didn't rebrand (steal) Clover yet. 

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TonyMac has just released Chimera 4.0 which is still based on Chameleon, so I guess they didn't rebrand (steal) Clover yet. 

his bootloader is and always will be based on chameleon or in the future, clover.

 

He is not capable of doing anything original, imagine a bootloader.

 

Chimera is one of Chameleon branches... this has nothing to do with some kind of stealing, please don't mix the things

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In case you checked tonymacx86's Buyer's Guide for october you might have noticed that he added a number of mainboards with Killer NICs to the list of recommended 9 series boards, of course with links to Amazon and Newegg so that he gets a commission when user's buy them through these links. Frankly, I'm not surprised because this was the next logical step after adding my Atheros driver to MultiMonster. Nevertheless it's disgusting and it hurts to get exploited.  :angry:

 

Hey tonymac, this song is for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIffEPLD0MU&spfreload=10%20Message%3A%20JSON%20Parse%20error%3A%20Unexpected%20EOF%20(url%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlIffEPLD0MU)

 

Mieze

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In case you checked tonymacx86's Buyer's Guide for october you might have noticed that he added a number of mainboards with Killer NICs to the list of recommended 9 series boards, of course with links to Amazon and Newegg so that he gets a commission when user's buy them through these links. Frankly, I'm not surprised because this was the next logical step after adding my Atheros driver to MultiMonster. Nevertheless it's disgusting and it hurts to get exploited.  :angry:

 

Mieze

I don't know, they have been a lot more appreciative and honouring of others' work nowadays (take a look at the Chimera 4.0 release page). Also, ManyMonster does give credit where it's due, and your handle is listed in the credits, IIRC. Unless he/they didn't explicitly ask for permission to add your kext into #####, in which case your annoyance is partially justified. 

 

They're acting like any profit-seeking company out there, including Apple, whose OS this website is dedicated to. Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying their act, but I suppose it's to be expected from them. About the 'donate' buttons sprinkled all over the site, I've seen several other devs of similar freeware ask for donations too - how else would they compensate for time spent developing the software? It is anyway a goodwill thing, and I haven't donated to any freeware dev besides WinRAR (I'm a teenager with a perennial shortage of cash, so my online expenditures are even more limited - I donated to Rarlabs because I use WinRAR a lot more than any free software out there). 

 

I still hang around their site because RehabMan is almost always at hand to solve problems in the laptop forums; unfortunately, he isn't as active here. By 'active' I mean receiving a response within ten minutes of posting/replying to a post. 

 

P.S. I completely forgot - Mieze, thanks for your driver - I have it installed and it made my Ethernet working. One of these days I'm going to make a giant thank-you post to all the devs who made my hackintosh install both possible and easier.

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I don't know, they have been a lot more appreciative and honouring of others' work nowadays (take a look at the Chimera 4.0 release page). Also, ManyMonster does give credit where it's due, and your handle is listed in the credits, IIRC. Unless he/they didn't explicitly ask for permission to add your kext into #####, in which case your annoyance is partially justified. 

 

They're acting like any profit-seeking company out there, including Apple, whose OS this website is dedicated to. Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying their act, but I suppose it's to be expected from them. About the 'donate' buttons sprinkled all over the site, I've seen several other devs of similar freeware ask for donations too - how else would they compensate for time spent developing the software? It is anyway a goodwill thing, and I haven't donated to any freeware dev besides WinRAR (I'm a teenager with a perennial shortage of cash, so my online expenditures are even more limited - I donated to Rarlabs because I use WinRAR a lot more than any free software out there). 

 

I don't have any problem with profit-seeking companies as long as they are making money with their own products, like Apple does. Apart from this they should show a little decency, but tonymac fails to meet both conditions. He never asked me for permission. Although his actions might be legal, they show complete disregard for morality.

 

Mieze 

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I don't have any problem with profit-seeking companies as long as they are making money with their own products, like Apple does. Apart from this they should show a little decency, but tonymac fails to meet both conditions. He never asked me for permission. Although his actions might be legal, they show complete disregard for morality.

 

Mieze 

 

Since when is using GPL'ed software without asking permission immoral? 

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Since when is using GPL'ed software without asking permission immoral?

She did mention that what tmx86 was doing was still legal - but it's common courtesy to ask for permission to use something, if you can do so.

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She did mention that what tmx86 was doing was still legal - but it's common courtesy to ask for permission to use something, if you can do so.

 

She already gave permission by licensing it under the GPL. 

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She already gave permission by licensing it under the GPL. 

 

You miss something:

 

You do not want me on your site, but you want my driver?

 

It 'a thought.....

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Here are some more pieces of  information. I just tried to download a copy of MultiMonster in order to check if they really comply with the GPL and look what I found:

 

post-983225-0-59644700-1413501545_thumb.png

 

Obviously they didn't ban me, but crippled my account so that I'm no longer able to download anything at their site. Can someone please send me copy of MultiMonster so that I can take a look at it.

 

Thanks to all users who sent me a copy of MB!

 

Mieze

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Here are some more pieces of  information. I just tried to download a copy of MultiMonster in order to check if they really comply with the GPL and look what I found:

 

attachicon.gifBildschirmfoto 2014-10-17 um 01.02.21.png

 

Obviously they didn't ban me, but crippled my account so that I'm no longer able to download anything at their site. Can someone please send me copy of MultiMonster so that I can take a look at it.

 

Mieze

What the heck is MultiMonster?

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You miss something:

 

It 'a thought.....

 

I didn't miss that, it's just irrelevant.

 

There is nothing immoral about using open-sourced software in the manner it was licensed. It's a completely disingenuous argument. I don't have strong feelings about the other website or this one, but there is surely a better thing to get worked up about beyond some supposed slight against someone that modified someone else's work and then feels like they're entitled to something without setting that expectation. Relying on "unspoken rules" or whatever doesn't sound like a good way to be happy with anything.

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Here are some more pieces of  information. I just tried to download a copy of MultiMonster in order to check if they really comply with the GPL and look what I found:

 

attachicon.gifBildschirmfoto 2014-10-17 um 01.02.21.png

 

Obviously they didn't ban me, but crippled my account so that I'm no longer able to download anything at their site. Can someone please send me copy of MultiMonster so that I can take a look at it.

 

Mieze

 

It is obvious they don't comply with the GPL you have to make the source used free available restricting the download of it is clear violation. BTW thanks for the Realtek8111 damn fine driver.

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Relying on "unspoken rules" or whatever doesn't sound like a good way to be happy with anything.

 

Our culture is based on unspoken rules. You shouldn't forget that!

 

By the way, in MB's "##### Features-7.0.pdf" file you can find the following sentence:

 

"This tool was created for your personal use and may not be sold or re-distributed without the express written consent of tonymacx86 LLC."

 

It's quite hard to get this in compliance with this term of the GPLv2:

 

"  6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the

Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the
original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to
these terms and conditions.  You may not impose any further
restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein.
You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to
this License." 
 

Mieze

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It is obvious they don't comply with the GPL you have to make the source used free available restricting the download of it is clear violation. BTW thanks for the Realtek8111 damn fine driver.

 

It isn't obvious according to the license agreement. Source code must be available to *users* of the software if a modified version is distributed. You can request a copy of the source code to distributed binaries and under the license they're obligated to supply it. It seems unlikely they're distributing a modified version of the driver but under the license they're obligated to provide a copy of the source code used for a distributed binary. 

 

For that matter, Mieze has to make the source code for her modified driver available too, though if you go looking for it you'll eventually find it in her Github repo, though it isn't included in her binary bundle that she releases is it?

 

The other website bundles and distributes work that is covered by the GPL. They probably can create a tool that acts as an installer and they can assert copyright and requirements on that all they want, it doesn't apply to the items licensed under the GPL even if they wanted it to. They would have grounds for complaint if you took their installer and distributed it regardless of what other components were included in it.

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This is a fallacy, fffee, called tu quoque, usually to establish between two opposing parties a moral equivalence that doesn't absolutely exist. it's not that Voldemort is simply not complying with the GPL, he's doing it with intent to obtain advantages at expense of the developers. He even failed to accredit the developers in at least one iteration of his tools. And than again, that's not all about what is lawful - it's about what's right. Do you really think (perhaps the most important question) that one's deeds being legal means right away they're legitimate?

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