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I've always hated linux. Always. I have never liked KDE because it just seemed...bloated. Fat.

I reluctantly tried Ubuntu yesterday (I finally got around to it).

 

I love it. I absolutely LOVE it!

 

I have a lot to learn about Linux. I need to know more about dependencies and a whole bunch of other stuff.

But from the first boot-up, Ubuntu has really left an impression on me.

 

I never thought of linux as an OS i could use regularly. It's always been a geeky thing that i had to worry about to make it work right.

 

I installed Ubuntu without problem with the alternate CD on two computers: a laptop and a desktop.

I have had no troubles with the wireless card in my notebook: it work out of the box. A lot of other stuff works great too.

 

There was a nice library of installed things, but not too may.

 

The UI is IMO extremely slick, I would go as far as calling it beautiful. I will use this for a while and learn linux, and eventually adopt it as a main OS on my notebook.

 

I believe Ubuntu, with some more work and a little enhancements, could go a long way. It's the Linux that really does worked from the first boot. And that's saying a lot, because windows does that too. They're very much on the same level. Linux just needs an easier way to distribute installers to make it mainstream.

 

One thing's for sure: Ubuntu isn't just for geeks. It's for users who can install an operating system with ease. If you've installed Windows a few times, you know how to use Ubuntu.

 

So thank you to this community, who got me to use Ubuntu.

Thank you to the Ubuntu team for creating a nice Linux, finally.

And thanks to both Windows and Mac, for inspiring the definition of "out-of-the-box" and pushing Ubuntu to what it currently is.

 

-Urby

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The UI is IMO extremely slick, I would go as far as calling it beautiful. I will use this for a while and learn linux, and eventually adopt it as a main OS on my notebook.

If you think it looks good out of the box, you have to try XGL/Compiz. Even if you don't care for added functionality, the redraw rate is much faster and the window boarders, shadows, and buttons are highly customizable.

 

EDIT: Check out my first theme I made for cgwd as an example, Calm_Reminiscent_Teal:

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I used red hat on and off for several years, then jumped to Ubuntu with this latest version 6.06. And it really is superb (also check out the newer versions of SUSE and the Novell Distros for businesses). Suse and Ubuntu really do wipe your arse for you during the whole setup and general usage. It's a doddle, even network printing. The most complicated thing I have to do now is compile the latest versions of blender myself, which isn't too bad.

 

...not as good as OSX of course :D

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On the homepage they say Linux for Human Beings! Yeah, it is a great OS. I haven't played around. There are more complex distros, more for what you would call "geeks", but Ubuntu is great.

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Linux just needs an easier way to distribute installers to make it mainstream.

I agree, there are to many source packages and is hard to find or this take to much time to find correct deb or rpm packages and source compilation is too painful

 

There is one project that make installation super easy, but for now there ale only few packages for it

 

 

I look for good os for some time, I have triple boot WIN, MAC OS X and SUSE, and from some time I hose SUSE for my work, it is very close for what I looking for. Win is ugly and have lot viruses, mac don't support my hardware. Linux fill the gap

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If you think it looks good out of the box, you have to try XGL/Compiz. Even if you don't care for added functionality, the redraw rate is much faster and the window boarders, shadows, and buttons are highly customizable.

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Would I have to install any extra components, or would xubuntu be exactly this: Ubuntu with xgl instead of gnome?

 

Could someone clarify that please?

I'm in the trying phase right now...lol ill honestly try ANYTHING!!

 

-Urby

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Good for you :)

 

And despite what anyone might recommend as being better (distributions-wise)

 

Let me say this: Debian or Ubuntu (which is the largest debian-derivative) has a few distinct advantages:

 

You can use quite a few Debian packages too. Updating/Maintaining a system is butt-easy.. really.. I've had the same server install on debian for... 5 years or so - Not reinstalled once! .. and it's always patched up nicely.

 

Oh yea.. advantages.. right.. Apart from the packageselection and the maintainability.. You'll find that Ubuntu (and therefore debian-like distributions) have the largest userbase at the moment, so you'll find guides that'll help you do nearly anything :blink:

 

And this is an overlooked thing: Ubuntu can be for geeks too.. It's extremely scaleable and it (unlike most RPM-distros) doesn't patch it's libraries to the point where a standard source program won't compile.. Yes you heard me, Ubuntu compiles pretty much everything (I'm also comparing this to distros like Slackware & Gentoo which I've both used and which are generally considered to be source-based OS's).

 

And yea.. try XGL, there's a bunch of guides, and on the technical side.. It kicks windows vista's aero and even OSX's 3d engines to pieces :)

 

[i think I'm burning my pizza in the oven so I'll be quick]

You asked for clarification regarding the whole XGL and Gnome thing so here goes (short version!)

 

Ok.. Gnome is a window manager like XFCE, KDE and others. (difference is it's actually worth a damn, unlike KDE :P )

 

Anyway! Xgl is *not* a window manager but an X server. When you run Gnome from the standard Ubuntu.. It launches a server and sets up a client (which is what you see actually). The standard X-server bundled with Ubuntu is called Xorg (a fork off of Xfree actually, but it's pretty much standard now).

 

So you won't switch out your WM, only your X-server. You'll still have all the good-ness of Gnome :)

 

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There's some technical stuff though meaning that KDE shouldn't work under XGL last I bothered to check. It's basically because a part of your WM is called Metacity and this is switched out with Compiz which cannot work under KDE.. Or somesuch.. But GNOME + XGL == Doable (and darn impressive)

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Q: in ubuntu, why didn't they put option to put grub in pbr? suse and others allow this, but with ubuntu i have to download some *special* cd for this so-called advanced installation option.

 

Do you know if in next build/version they'll include back this simple option?

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XUbuntu is not Ubuntu with XGL, it uses another window manager, which is simpler and faster, and is better for low performance PC's. KUbuntu is another variant, using the KDE window manager rather than Gnome.

 

To get XGL on your computer, yes it can be done, but you must download additional modules, probably with the command apt-get. There are tutorials to do this with 6.06 at the ubuntu forums.

 

The new version of Ubuntu, 6.10 "Edgy Eft", comes with XGL pre-installed, as well as some other goodies like a faster boodloader. But don't try to upgrade to it, rather do a clean install, there have been many complaints about the upgrade process around...

 

If you can download another 700mb ISO, then I say go for that!

 

Trust me, ubuntu can get geeky. AIGLX, XGL,Compiz it can all be quite confusing.

 

I found it to be a very easy install, with just one minor problem : to change resolution above 1024x768 you have to perform a command in terminal, and go through the XORG setup...but I found the solution easily enough with their forums and help and whatnot...

 

Best of luck and keep asking if you haven't got all the answers...

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If you don't mind paying 20 quid you can get native wirless support out of the box with a Belkin USB wireless card. I forget the model numbers but they can be bought from http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/. No driver worries, it just worked when I plugged it in.

 

I somehow didn't find any xgl stuff on Edgy... maybe I'm not looking hard enough or maybe it realised how dire my hardware was. Either way I'll have another look next time I'm home.

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