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I am curious how such apps as Final Cut 5.1 Universal will run on this new breed of hackintosh.

 

Media apps. like Final Cut Pro should see a massive improvement due to the fact that "SSE4" is twice as fast the previous SSE3 implementation.

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last xbench mem timings at 4-4-4-12 2,1 voltage.

 

Results 162.37

System Info

Xbench Version 1.2

System Version 10.4.7 (8J2135)

Physical RAM 1024 MB

Model ADP2,1

Drive Type Maxtor 7V300F0

CPU Test 145.88

GCD Loop 333.23 17.57 Mops/sec

Floating Point Basic 160.17 3.81 Gflop/sec

vecLib FFT 115.74 3.82 Gflop/sec

Floating Point Library 104.87 18.26 Mops/sec

Thread Test 282.28

Computation 258.11 5.23 Mops/sec, 4 threads

Lock Contention 311.44 13.40 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

Memory Test 184.39

System 172.40

Allocate 121.21 445.12 Kalloc/sec

Fill 227.52 11062.40 MB/sec

Copy 210.24 4342.48 MB/sec

Stream 198.18

Copy 186.23 3846.55 MB/sec

Scale 190.66 3938.89 MB/sec

Add 209.74 4467.97 MB/sec

Triad 208.30 4456.00 MB/sec

Quartz Graphics Test 129.31

Line 103.00 6.86 Klines/sec [50% alpha]

Rectangle 109.30 32.63 Krects/sec [50% alpha]

Circle 107.05 8.73 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]

Bezier 127.04 3.20 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]

Text 385.50 24.12 Kchars/sec

OpenGL Graphics Test 227.51

Spinning Squares 227.51 288.61 frames/sec

User Interface Test 167.12

Elements 167.12 766.99 refresh/sec

Disk Test 108.94

Sequential 129.24

Uncached Write 137.54 84.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write 120.61 68.24 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read 139.45 40.81 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read 121.68 61.16 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Random 94.15

Uncached Write 65.32 6.91 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write 112.70 36.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read 97.32 0.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read 124.59 23.12 MB/sec [256K blocks]

 

i guess this is all i can get and after all, this looks so fast that i can't imagine more. if anyone is looking for a conroe board, please consider the P5W dh, it is really powerfull and stable.

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It's the first thing I'm gonna buy next. Just waiting a few months to get those prices down a bit. Actually, if this works out well and I can run iAperture and stuff like that fast, I'll stick with 10.4.7 and this system of yours. XP, no Vista next to it and I'd have a lightning fast experience. :blink: Can't wait, thanks for testing it out for us!

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Disk Test 108.94

Sequential 129.24

Uncached Write 137.54 84.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write 120.61 68.24 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read 139.45 40.81 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read 121.68 61.16 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Random 94.15

Uncached Write 65.32 6.91 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write 112.70 36.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read 97.32 0.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read 124.59 23.12 MB/sec [256K blocks]

 

i guess this is all i can get and after all, this looks so fast that i can't imagine more.

 

Really, the only "weak" spot is with the disk tests. Adding a second hard drive in RAID 0 (striped) would almost double your scores here. Unfortunately, until we get EFI running there is almost no hope of booting off a RAID pair.

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i thought of that, of buying 2 hdd. but there were few changes i could get to run so... let's hope you guys get the EFI to work so that we (who dont know much about it) change our hardware ;)

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Bofors: Is it feasible to setup a pc with one hdd w/ the OS, and a Raid 1 pair for the data??

 

Stainboy: Congrats on your system. Since most features seem to work for you, can you summarize what does NOT work? DVI? High resolution (can you run 1920x1200)? Do you have QuartzExtreme2D enabled? I'm fishing around a bit, because if the only "non-working" part is RAID....you've really done well !

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Graeme43, This is a bit off-topic, but...do you know if the mobo will happily run nVidia cards? (Not SLI, of course, but just....dual nVidias?)

 

For that matter....has anyone tried dual monitors with this setup?

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Hi everybody!

I was about to start ordering pieces to build my first OSx86 box and I was planning to build it around the Conroe when I saw this discussion.

I am going to buy the asus p5w dh deluxe motherboard as this is for sure working (according to graeme and stainboy).

I've got a couple of questions for Stainboy, though.

You said that one iso didn't work and you had to try another one, could you please specify which one? Then the sound was still not working, did you apply a patch for that?

One last thing, following jwalker46, can you summarize what does NOT work (Graeme has almost the same setup and he says DVI is not working nor wireless nor line in).

Thanks a lot from an OSx86 newbie.

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To get sound all you do is edit 2 files and change a number , we both did it that way :censored2:

 

I cant think of anything else that doesn't work. The JMicron IDE channel might not, but theres the ICH7 one and it DOES work

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Apple should release a Conroe tower that takes normal memory and is smaller and cheaper :censored2:

 

I think it absolutely clear that Apple intends to do this now. They are clearly billing the Mac Pro as a "Workstation" not a "PC". Furthermore, instead of offering some single CPU discount Mac Pro for $1999 or whatever, Apple is going in the opposite direction by pushing the "standard" Mac Pro for $2499. Even AnandTech pick up on this issue in their Mac Pro review.

 

Hopefully, we see this new Conroe Mac tower, cube or whatever announced at the Paris Apple Expo next month.

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I am a little confused to spend more than 200 $ for the P5W-DH instead of 80$ for the P5ld2-VM SE. In this manual i found the same overclocking profiles up to 30% =FSB1333. I dont need a second LAN`, WiFi,DH.

So- any more disadvantages?

Coolio

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The P5LD2-VM SE's 945 chipset is designed for DDR2-667 not 800 like the 965/975's and while the P5LD2-VM SE may have some overclocking features they are weak (the P5LD2 is a better choice for discount overclocking, but lacks the GMA 950).

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To get sound all you do is edit 2 files and change a number , we both did it that way

 

Graeme43,

 

Could you please post the edits and change here? (It may be covered somewhere in these forums or Wiki, but there are many different posts on any topic, and it would be very helpful if you would walk us through the steps.)

 

To followup on the DVI: does anyone have a clue why there is a problem with that??

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1. Delete AppleHDA.kext:

In Terminal, type: sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/AppleHDA.kext

 

sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions.mkext

 

sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions.kext

2) Edit AppleAzaliaAudio.kext:

In Terminal, type: sudo pico /System/Library/Extensions/AppleAzaliaAudio.kext/Contents/Info.plist

 

Search for (use hotkey= ctrl + w):

<key>IOHDAudioCodecVendorID</key>

 

change the string to:

<string>0x10ec0882</string>

Exit pico

sudo pico /System/Library/Extensions/AppleAzaliaAudio.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleAzaliaController.kext/Contents/Info.plist

 

Search for (use hotkey= ctrl + w):

<key>IOPCIPrimaryMatch</key>

 

change the string to:

<string>0x27d88086</string>

Exit pico

3) Clean up the system:

In Terminal, type: sudo diskutil repairpermissions /

sudo kextload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleAzaliaAudio.kext

 

kextcache -k /System/Library/Extensions/

4) Then, reboot and enjoy sound out of two channels

 

just something about that 30% overclocking features that some asus boards and other brands include:

overclocking 30% from stock migth look simple, but it depends on all your hardware. for instance, the 30% overclocking included on the bios does not change voltages nor mem timings. in order to get it done perfectly you'll have to spend some time testing the perfect fsb mem timings voltage of cpu mhc and mem to get a stable system. also check if your system will be cool with that kind of frequency increase. me and graeme43 have made some hardware changes to the heatsinks on the north and south bridge so that overclocking is a stable and it is not stressing (too much) your computer cuz it will have to last for a while (maybe). all in all, all boards work different, even same model and manufacture, some people get it rigth, some dont. its a matter of time and testing and...know what you are doing. that said, i have to say that even at stock speeds (in my case 1,86) in Osx i get very good speed, everything works very fast and stable. i recomend the conroe (any kind) and the p5w dh. reliability, stability and performance.

 

oh and... i have at least 4 iso that dont work for me.. all 10.4.6.

tried one 10.4.5 and it worked... dont know what isos are cuz i've downloaded them and didnt got theyr name... i think the one that works is Jas...

 

Graeme43 is best to answer to that iso thigs.... :)

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Hi there...

 

Quick question on install for those with conroe install working..

 

Did you guys install any of the sse2 or 3 patches or ran without those patches..

 

Since I also have a core 2 duo system which looks very compatible I wanted to see if I can install OSX on it

 

Box : Antec P180 + 500W PSU

MB : Asus P5W DH Deluxe wireless

CPU : Core 2 Duo E6600

Mem : 1 GB Corsair DDR2 PC2-8500

Vid : Ati Crossfire X1600 pro

Dsk : Ehh... About 1.5 TB on various Disks (Raid5 and non Raid)

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