Boot 132 vs EFI // Retail vs custom builds (ie iDeneb 1.3)

[Trentburns]

I want to thank the community and say this is my mega resource on this topic. After trolling here for months I figured I'd finally post something.

 

I've successfully installed and have run various builds on different hardware. After reading and doing most of the different build techniques I'm still at a minor loss as to the 'best' or optimal way to do this. I've done the 132 and EFI/Chameleon type installs as well as iDeneb/Kalyway/Leo4All/iAkos and still am at a loss as to what way is optimal...

 

They all (well most of the time) work and can get them all to 10.5.5 and get everything running but I feel like it is sluggish compared to my real mac pro or macbook pro. I feel like the video subsystem is a weak link but it could easily be my configurations. When possible I use the nvinject and on my newer systems have used the both the EFI and the newer 9 series drivers to much success but the scores to me seem poor when looking at them on xbench, is there a good benchmark application that runs under windows and osx that could give good comparisons of where the shortcomings are?

 

So now the 10k questions. What way is the optimal way to do the installs to get the greatest performance and compatibility?

 

Maybe they are all the same, just different paths to reach the same goal but want to make sure that I'm not limiting myself. FWIW iDeneb has been the easiest of all the cd's imo to install and get running(on compatible hardware).

 

Thanks

[Trentburns]

I'm guessing this is a taboo topic or or my wording was so bad that no one wanted to comment so I'll rephrase it.

 

On a nearly totally vanilla system -

Gigabyte p35-DS3L

Q6600

8GB ram

1 TB HD's x2

LiteOn Sata DVD writer (sata)

Nvidia (8800/8600/9800) Video

SII3132 eSata Card

 

Which method should yield the greatest performance for me? - prebuilt (ie iDeneb), 132 + retail, EFIv8 + retail

 

Why choose one over the other?

 

What should be done to boost performance of internal drivers? Example my 9800 will work with nvinject 2.1 from the iDeneb with what looks to be all the features enabled, I've also loaded the new 9 series drivers the more cumbersome way in EFI. Which in theory should be more efficient?

 

Do the dual boot loaders effect performance of OSx86?

 

Is there much of a compatibility or performance hit using VM Fusion v2 over just dual booting?

 

Thanks

[og-phantom]

I'm guessing this is a taboo topic or or my wording was so bad that no one wanted to comment so I'll rephrase it.

 

On a nearly totally vanilla system -

Gigabyte p35-DS3L

Q6600

8GB ram

1 TB HD's x2

LiteOn Sata DVD writer (sata)

Nvidia (8800/8600/9800) Video

SII3132 eSata Card

 

Which method should yield the greatest performance for me? - prebuilt (ie iDeneb), 132 + retail, EFIv8 + retail

 

Why choose one over the other?

 

What should be done to boost performance of internal drivers? Example my 9800 will work with nvinject 2.1 from the iDeneb with what looks to be all the features enabled, I've also loaded the new 9 series drivers the more cumbersome way in EFI. Which in theory should be more efficient?

 

Do the dual boot loaders effect performance of OSx86?

 

Is there much of a compatibility or performance hit using VM Fusion v2 over just dual booting?

 

Thanks

 

Having installed most of the hack-dvds also, I have come to prefer munky's efi partition install. But, this is just me. I really believe it just comes down to which install you like. I like the idea of being able to run a apple update and not have to worry about it borking my install and having to do some voodoo to get it to reboot. So why choose one over the other? Pick the one you like and stick with it. Your the one using your hack, not anyone else.

 

I prefer EFI strings over injectors, but again, that's just me. But from my understanding (someone correct me if I am wrong), all injectors do, is inject the EFI string in. Same thing as using a EFI string in your com.apple.Boot.plist. I just like to keep my s/l/e as vanilla as possible. I don't think one way is more efficient than another. COD 4 runs just as fast in OSX as it does for me in Vista 64bit.

 

Boot loaders are pre-OS (bios level stuff), they do not affect the "performance" of the OS. Now, using a boot loader that has DSDT override can enhance the functionality of OSX, but again, OSX's boot loader does not affect Vista or vise-versa.

 

Having a native install will always be faster and you can have the native performance of the OS over running something in a VM. If your not gaming or require your video drivers for Maya or something like that, just run it in a VM. I found that I hadn't booted into Vista for almost 2 months, so I went ahead and recovered the hard-drive space from Redmond. Everything I did in Vista, OSX has a similar app that does the same thing. YMMV tho. Some people just can't give up Vista/XP (kinda like a bad drug addiction)