mega Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 I need to learn macos in case I have to support it at work, is there a current build/shopping list for a fully supported board/vid/lan/sound setup? I remember a few pages way back when, had a 199 $ build that fully worked, I came up with my own list, but I found too many issues every time I researched a motherboard I came up with an asus board, ASUS P5LD2-VM Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G miniATX, seems like the sound/lan did not work, required mods to kext files in 10.4.4/5 or possibly a 10.4.3 install to get it to work the original thread http://www.osx86project.org/index.php?opti...&id=27&Itemid=2 not sure what board this used, or if it works native under 10.4.4 or 10.4.5 sugestions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 PS personally I want to go mini-itx this will morph into a linux/ubuntu/dapper box eventually something like the Hoojum Cubit 3 case Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-82316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 wow nobody build one lately? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitesh Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I need to learn macos in case I have to support it at work, is there a current build/shopping list for a fully supported board/vid/lan/sound setup? I remember a few pages way back when, had a 199 $ build that fully worked, I came up with my own list, but I found too many issues every time I researched a motherboard I came up with an asus board, ASUS P5LD2-VM Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G miniATX, seems like the sound/lan did not work, required mods to kext files in 10.4.4/5 or possibly a 10.4.3 install to get it to work the original thread http://www.osx86project.org/index.php?opti...&id=27&Itemid=2 not sure what board this used, or if it works native under 10.4.4 or 10.4.5 sugestions? well ur research just got over ....get ur self a D915GLVGL ....its cheap + its fully supported ..no need to patch anything ..everything works out of the box wid PREPATCHED 10.4.4/4.5 ..sound, lan , qe/ci , usb, sata, ide, .... i guess if ull be goin with the intel celeron D 326 ....u could get ur rig fixed for 199$ ..thats wat i did ..for my office rig PS personally I want to go mini-itx this will morph into a linux/ubuntu/dapper box eventually something like the Hoojum Cubit 3 case This board is a micro atx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 The Intel D915GUXLK (similiar to Hitesh's D915GLVGL) is an ideal discount motherboard with FireWire and Gigabit Eithernet for only $78.99 here: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=D9...ng&cm_ite=total Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perium Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Do any of you know any Non-ddr2 boards that are supported? Im sitting on a ton of ddr. Also an agp slot would be awesome also. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitesh Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Do any of you know any Non-ddr2 boards that are supported? Im sitting on a ton of ddr. Also an agp slot would be awesome also. the Mobo i recommended is a DDR board (D915GLVGL) ,,but it aint got an agp slot .. its got a PCI EXPRESS Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmaclover Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I've got a Asus p5gl-mx board that i got when i first started to build one. The only reason I am not using it now is that it only has one PATA port and I wanted two. Other than that I had no problem getting everything on it to work beautifully with very little fuss. It is a 915g based board with GMA900 graphics. Even has a great feature of hitting F8 to select different hard drives in bios before boot so you don't have to use a bootloader. And it uses regular DDR. Check it all out at: http://www.asus.com/products3.aspx?l1=3&l2...e=Intel%20915GL I am putting it on ebay in the next couple of days. If you are interested let me know. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Now we are talking serious discount, the Asus p5gl-mx is only $47.60 at NewEgg: http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?...tel+Motherboard No FireWire, no Gigabyte Ethernet (10/100 only) and DDR-400 (PC 3200). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmaclover Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Yeah, the P5GL-MX is not feature laden but a $199 mac won't be. I wanted better so I got an Aopen i945ga-plf from newegg for less than $70. Now i have firewire, DDR2 and Gigabit Lan. Also will support dual core when I decide to get one on the cheap in a year or so. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroz Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 well ur research just got over ....get ur self a D915GLVGL ....its cheap + its fully supported ..no need to patch anything ..everything works out of the box wid PREPATCHED 10.4.4/4.5 ..sound, lan , qe/ci , usb, sata, ide, .... i guess if ull be goin with the intel celeron D 326 ....u could get ur rig fixed for 199$ ..thats wat i did ..for my office rig This board is a micro atx I know it's a no-no on what to post and not, even being a noob, I have done some research.... Anyway, is there a PREpatched 10.4/10.5 image floating around? All I've seen at konglsish (spelling on purpose) is patches...and the only image I've seen posted is a 10.3 version on usenet. What is the fastest CPU you can put in these boxes? I would like to build a working out of the box unit with a INTEL dual core. Meaning working lan, audio, and any PCI cards I use being recognized! Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalgam Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I know it's a no-no on what to post and not, even being a noob, I have done some research.... Anyway, is there a PREpatched 10.4/10.5 image floating around? All I've seen at konglsish (spelling on purpose) is patches...and the only image I've seen posted is a 10.3 version on usenet. You didn't look in the right newsgroup then. The 10.4/10.5 is posted. It's also in torrent form. Google it using "pie" and "cheese". What is the fastest CPU you can put in these boxes? I would like to build a working out of the box unit with a INTEL dual core. Meaning working lan, audio, and any PCI cards I use being recognized! Thanks! The speed limit of the cpu is dependant on the chipset used. Don't know anything about the AMD boards, but genuine Intels (915G thru 955X) are basically a turn the key & go proposition. PCI card recognition is wholly dependant on whatever driver support already exists, whether Apple provided it, or as it comes from the card vendor (and that ain't gonna be much - for awhile anyways). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 Thanks for the info, from what I gather the following chipsets work out of the box no kext editing, all off the standard hacked install dvd's intel 915GL Chipset Realtek ALC860 sound Intel GMA900 video Intel 82562GZ Lan if I was going to a 945 chipset they all have sigmatel 9220 which dont seem to work out of the box, but they do get the GMA950, and most dont have lan chips that work right, or sata working right Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 It is trivial to fix the SigmaTel 9220. You just drop in the 10.4.3 version of AppleHDA.kext, this takes seconds. It really is not an issue. My on-board Ethernet and SATA work prefectly "out of the box" (except for RAID). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwen Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 http://biznes.pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/pi...msi-mpc-915.jpg MSI MPC 915 Barebone - not really cheap, but a VERY nice one. in my opinion a worthy "standard" x86 Box for OS X! [edit] and by the way fully supported - sound,lan,gma900,usb,cardreader,sata all work.[/edit] Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-83986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 http://biznes.pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/pi...msi-mpc-915.jpg MSI MPC 915 Barebone - not really cheap, but a VERY nice one. in my opinion a worthy "standard" x86 Box for OS X! Nice case. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermegatron Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 $220 mactel I couldnt get any lower then that ATX Computer Cases Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price 1 COOLMAX CV-560-Gray 0.6mm Steel/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail Model #:CV-560-Gray W/O PS Add this item to your cart $14.99 $14.99 CD/DVD ROM Drives Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price 1 LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model SHD-16P1S - OEM Model #:SHD-16P1S OEM Add this item to your cart $18.99 $18.99 Intel-compatible Motherboards Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price 1 MSI 915GLM-V Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915GL Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Model #:915GLM-V ** This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only. Add this item to your cart $67.00 $67.00 Internal Hard Drives Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price 1 Seagate U Series X 20 ST320014A 20GB 5400 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM Model #:ST320014A Add this item to your cart $30.00 $30.00 Memory - System Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price 1 CORSAIR ValueSelect 256MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS256MB400 - Retail Model #:VS256MB400 Add this item to your cart $18.55 $18.55 Processors Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price 1 Intel Celeron D 326 Prescott 533MHz FSB LGA 775 EM64T Processor w/ Execute Disable Bit Model BX80547RE2533CN - Retail Model #:BX80547RE2533CN ** This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only. Add this item to your cart $66.00 $66.00 SubTotal: $215.53 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 1 COOLMAX CV-560-Gray 0.6mm Steel/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - RetailModel #:CV-560-Gray W/O PS It looks like you forgot the power supply. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigoimac Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I'll be installling for the first time on my windows PC tomorrow, but I'm already scheming to build a dedicated machine for OSX and Linux. Here's what I was thinking and I was hoping to hear of your experiences w/ any of the products or chipsets I've choosen. Obviously, this is on a bit of a tight budget, as that is fitting for this thread. MoBo: Couple of Choices here! 1) AOpen i945Ga-PLF Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813137069 -How well does the 945 chipset work and how well does the GMA 950 compare to the 900? 2)Gigabyte GA-8I945GMF Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813128303 -Similar to above, just cheaper. 3) Any 915 board w/ GMA 900 such as the MSI 915GLM-V Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915GL Micro ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813130518 -should I just bite the bullet and go w/ the 945 chipset? CPU 1) Intel Celeron 326 or would I be significantly better off with an Intel Pentium 4 506, most specifically in iLife? Video 1) I'm assuming that integrated is currently the way to go until most of the driver situations are sorted out, right? Memory 1) either 512 or a gig w/e I can squeak into my budget. Psu 1) I already have a 300 watt Enermax PSU that I think I'll be able to recycle for this project. Thank You All Very Much for Any Assistance Offered!!!!! -indi Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I'm assuming that integrated is currently the way to go until most of the driver situations are sorted out, right? That is the way I see it. should I just bite the bullet and go w/ the 945 chipset? Intel Celeron 326 or would I be significantly better off with an Intel Pentium 4 506? either 512 or a gig w/e I can squeak into my budget. It depends on how long you want to use this rig. If you plan to use it for years, then yes get 945 and upgrade the rest later. You can always drop in more RAM. But if this for short term use and you want to get the most bang for your buck now, I would definitely spend the money first on the 506 Pentium and secondly on one GB of RAM (512 MB will constrain OS X) over the 945 motherboard. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigoimac Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Do you feel that it is actually viable to run one of these x86 machines for years, this is especially germaine as I was really seriously hoping to replace an aging 500MHz iMac G3 w/ this new build. Also how will the Celeron perform in iLife, comperable to a G4? And I'm pretty sure I'll be going w/ a gig of RAM. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Do you feel that it is actually viable to run one of these x86 machines for years... I see no reason why not. It is trival to upgrade the CPU and the Intel 945 boards support high speed throughput and EFI (should that ever become supported by the OSx86 community). The real downside is that in six months or so, when Intel roles out the real next generation of CPU's (Woodcrest, Conroe and Merom), which are significantly faster in many ways, the stuff we have now will be completely obsolete. In short, it is a bad time to buy Intel hardware, even the new Yonah based Macs are somewhat undersirable for long term use because Yonah is just a short-term intermediate design chip. Merom is the really deal and I will probably wait for a MacBook Pro with that instead. Also how will the Celeron perform in iLife, comperable to a G4? I have not used a Celeron but would guess they are generally faster than any G4 just because the Celeron's front side bus is 533 MHz versus 167 on the GHz (vector code may another story because Altivec kicks SSE3, Intel is fixing this issue with Woodcrest, Conroe and Merom). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigoimac Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 OK so it would be logical to install on a secondary drive on my current windows PC and play around w/ it, then in 6months to a year come back and re-evaluate the osx86 scene and compare it to Apple's revised offerings, sounds good! Thanks for your extensive help and knowledge bofors! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 It is trivial to fix the SigmaTel 9220. You just drop in the 10.4.3 version of AppleHDA.kext, this takes seconds. It really is not an issue. My on-board Ethernet and SATA work prefectly "out of the box" (except for RAID). Not trivial, I looked for 2 weeks for 10.4.3 kext's for my 10.4.4/5 install, and I gave up Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phasornc Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Can someone point me to the AppleHDA.kext. PM please It is trivial to fix the SigmaTel 9220. You just drop in the 10.4.3 version of AppleHDA.kext, this takes seconds. It really is not an issue. My on-board Ethernet and SATA work prefectly "out of the box" (except for RAID). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/12969-10445-199-mac/#findComment-84244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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