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2012: The Year The Internet Ends

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It will be if something isn't done.

 

I'll be meeting the Scottish First Minister at some point next month, I'll metion this to him ;)

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Scary, and quite believable. If the internet keeps going the way it is now, multinationals, governments and so on are soon going to lose their grip on people's minds, and they can't let it happen.

This could turn into a real war.

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Well, I guess shortsighted ISP's will maybe agree to this. But they dont realize the value of the internet and why people want it, and the smaller which is not going this route will quickly become popular. Bad ideas tend to fail...

 

Another point is... google, yahoo etc depend on smaller context providers for their searchengines. And smaller businesses and organizations will jump off internet if there are no one able to look at their sites.

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Guess then all the hackers will hack it.....

 

I don't think hackers will want to be rendered unable to hack...

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I just saw this: http://ipower.ning.com/netneutralityIs it possible? The Internet as a purely commercial playground?
It is possible, and unless we do something, it will become a reality. These companies are evil (Money as their only motivation, without any regard for the common good). They will do whatever it takes to force you to buy their product. They will shove it down your throat any way they can. The only thing that can force their hand is us. We must march, complain, be the squeaky wheel so to speak. We should keep the internet free and open. Commercial entities can keep their grubby, greedy hands off of it.Tell as many people about this danger to our freedom as quickly as you can. The more that people know about this, the less likely it will come to pass.
Well, I guess shortsighted ISP's will maybe agree to this. But they dont realize the value of the internet and why people want it, and the smaller which is not going this route will quickly become popular. Bad ideas tend to fail...Another point is... google, yahoo etc depend on smaller context providers for their searchengines. And smaller businesses and organizations will jump off internet if there are no one able to look at their sites.
That's the thing though, in many towns and cities across the US there is only one ISP, and it is usually one of the big ones. In my town there is only comcast or dialup. Or fibre if you have a business. I might bite the bullet and pay the extra $100 (for fibre, not one of these piece of $hit ISP's) a month though if this future comes to pass.
Guess then all the hackers will hack it.....I don't think hackers will want to be rendered unable to hack...
Sure, hackers might be able to hack it, but how would they get their instructions on how to hack out to the people? The internet? Bittorrent? Neither of these will be a possibility unless it can be posted on these "pre-approved" sites that won't even allow you to post your material. This will effectively kill the internet, with or without hackers.

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This would be stupid. Millions of Web Developers out of jobs. Plus, This would be a charm for hackers. Imagine the amount of attacks on the websites servers.

 

As a web developer, this cannot be true. I think they are just trying to scare you.

 

Plus, Think what this would do to Apple, Microsoft? HP, Toshiba, etc. Small computer stores. All would be killed off to the fact that the internet is what makes us buy these products. I mean, you dont go buy a macbook pro and not use the internet on it? You don't get a nice 4gb memory, 1tb, Intel Quad core PC and just use it as a 'word processor'? Because effectively that would be all it would be good for, that and presentations.

 

I think that this story is quite not true. These companies may be greedy, but not even the biggest greediest CEO could decide to do something like this. Think about all the people campaigning and attacking the companies...

 

It's just something I wouldn't be able to believe.

 

- J.

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Plus, Think what this would do to Apple, Microsoft? HP, Toshiba, etc. Small computer stores. All would be killed off to the fact that the internet is what makes us buy these products. I mean, you dont go buy a macbook pro and not use the internet on it? You don't get a nice 4gb memory, 1tb, Intel Quad core PC and just use it as a 'word processor'? Because effectively that would be all it would be good for, that and presentations.

 

I had the same thing in mind, but that doesn't mean I don't believe they'll try and do it.

 

 

I'll be meeting the Scottish First Minister at some point next month, I'll metion this to him :)

 

I'll write to my MP.

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This would be stupid. Millions of Web Developers out of jobs. Plus, This would be a charm for hackers. Imagine the amount of attacks on the websites servers.

 

As a web developer, this cannot be true. I think they are just trying to scare you.

 

Plus, Think what this would do to Apple, Microsoft? HP, Toshiba, etc. Small computer stores. All would be killed off to the fact that the internet is what makes us buy these products. I mean, you dont go buy a macbook pro and not use the internet on it? You don't get a nice 4gb memory, 1tb, Intel Quad core PC and just use it as a 'word processor'? Because effectively that would be all it would be good for, that and presentations.

 

I think that this story is quite not true. These companies may be greedy, but not even the biggest greediest CEO could decide to do something like this. Think about all the people campaigning and attacking the companies...

 

It's just something I wouldn't be able to believe.

 

- J.

 

Apple, and Microsoft and all the mainstream sites will be in even the most basic internet package. People will at first not notice a difference, it will happen under people's noses gradually without them quite noticing until the internet is gone without anybody knowing it.

 

Small sites are the ones at stake here. You will always be able to go to google, microsoft, apple, ebay, etc etc. But its the small, independent, free thinking sites (like this one) which will disappear. All the big players will get their money and will wipe the small guys off the map as well. Seems to me theres plenty of motivation for all of them to go down this road.

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I think that this story is quite not true. These companies may be greedy, but not even the biggest greediest CEO could decide to do something like this. Think about all the people campaigning and attacking the companies...

The date might not be an absolute, but don't kid yourself, the battle for the Internet is on.

 

Although I think a site restricted plan wouldn't work and too many people would stop using the internet, I could see them trying a push for a tiered level program. (Of course to implement such a system would require co-operation by more than just service providers.)

 

Doesn't Al Gore have a say into what they do to his internet anyways? :(

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Nah - I doubt very much that this kind of thing could ever happen. The internet only exists because billions of people connect their computers together on one big network of networks. If this were to happen, then the ISP's immediately start blocking us from accessing certain networks, and the whole system would just die. What use would Google be when I can only search 100 websites?

 

 

In fact, the more I think about it, the less I think it could ever happen. Think - how would new websites be created? You'd have to start up your own server, and then sell your IP address / domain (if you have access to a site where you can register them!) to the ISP's, who in return will stick two fingers up at you because no one cares about your site.

Everyone would now need new email addresses because 3/4 of everyones email hosts wont be able to be accessed without subscription, and you'll have to pay money to be able to send email to someone on a different domain. Could you imagine going back to the postal service when you want to get in contact with your family members on the other side of the world?

 

Websites which don't have enough subscriptions will start dying off, and eventually the whole concept of what the internet is about is lost.

 

I would bet one million pounds (if I had it) that this extremely far-fetched idea won't become a reality.

 

P.s. That girls cleavage is one way to get us men listening to what they're saying :angel:

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That's exactly true, but he's better than no one...

 

I was kidding Marvin (our International cousins may not see how!), it's important to raise these things with the people in power, impress upon him our concerns - you never know where it will lead.

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This thing is certainly a scary thought.

 

But all I know is the more I got through the video the more the urge grew to shout at my computer to tell that idiot to stop stealing all the limelight and let his buddies (who I thought were much much better than him) say something.

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that should be moved to laugh.. i mean..

 

internet is not a "thing". internet is a decentralized network of million of networks connected each other.

 

what could happen is that multinationals will take control of domain name services somehow for commercial purposes

or that all ip ranges will be used because of the stupid marketing of service providers selling several ips to costumers w/out reason

 

if that will ever happen, someone will find another way to reach servers around the world.

 

internet cannot collapse

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that should be moved to laugh.. i mean..

 

internet is not a "thing". internet is a decentralized network of million of networks connected each other.

 

what could happen is that multinationals will take control of domain name services somehow for commercial purposes <---- utopia, it will never happen

or that all ip ranges will be used because of the stupid marketing of service providers selling several ips to costumers w/out reason <---- that will happen sometime in the future, but not for now

 

if that will ever happen, someone will find another way to reach servers around the world.

 

internet cannot collapse

 

However, you can't connect to the internet without a tube ( :ihw_wow: ) going via your ISP. This means that the majority of people, who aren't going to look for other ISPs, or don't care that they can't access smaller sites aren't going to do anything.

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well, right. but it's not a big deal for isps to block content, noone will ever use their internet service and they will get a money loss

 

isps will never limit internet access, it's stupid

 

talking about dns or domain services is another story

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well, right. but it's not a big deal for isps to block content, noone will ever use their internet service and they will get a money loss

 

But if Joe Public only wants to use the CNN site or Yahoo, is he going to complain?

 

 

if that will ever happen, someone will find another way to reach servers around the world.

 

Which is why the phrase "the internet as we know it" has been used many times

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If this goes down, I predict multiple internets. Each with its own rules. Including an internet or open-source, free material. As well as an internet for pirated content, etc.

 

Whatever the case may be, one thing will happen for certain. All of this will be done just gradually enough for people to not get all pissed off and march about it, freedoms will be taken away crumbs at a time, until one day we will wake up and go "wait a minute, I used to be able to do more for less".

 

These companies, these rich, greedy people move differently than they used to. They move gradually now, not quickly. They move ever so gradually as to not agitate us out of our deep slumber, they do 99% of what will wake us up, but they don't quite push that 1% that will get us angry. We are instead, only annoyed. Angry people fix their problems (or perceive themselves to fix their problems), annoyed people talk and maybe yell, but then ultimately they sit down, and take it in the ass.

 

It is imperative for the future of our civilization that the internet remains free and open. That ISP's cant decide what we can and cannot see. That the flow of information can come freely (good and bad). That the truth is held above all else. This will give us a realistic view of our problems (even if many people can't handle it). This will lead to the perception of instability but in reality it will help us fix the problems that are REAL.

 

Watching Cable news, or network news, one thing is for sure, its not the truth. It's either not the complete picture, or strait propaganda. The internet by its very nature discourages such behavior from ever taking place, because EVERYBODY can have a say. With a complete picture, we find the truth, however complex it may be.

 

Don't accept any concession or loss to what you have now when it comes to the internet. It is a gift for the world (from ourselves), we must never take it for granted.

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Killbot, it's the internet..... not Shangri-La. The whole world wouldn't end if we lost it. SOmething would replace it. Now I seriously don't WANT it to go.

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Killbot, it's the internet..... not Shangri-La. The whole world wouldn't end if we lost it. SOmething would replace it. Now I seriously don't WANT it to go.

 

YES IT WOULD!!! :rolleyes:-_-

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Killbot, it's the internet..... not Shangri-La. The whole world wouldn't end if we lost it. SOmething would replace it. Now I seriously don't WANT it to go.

 

The internet is the natural progression of our world. It arose from a need to share information quickly and freely. It makes our world more global. It gives us a window into the way other people think, even if we completely disagree with them. In our world of nuclear weapons, overpopulation, secret government activities, banks, dictators, etc. The internet offers transparency, it offers an ultimate check and balance on humanity. Restricting it in any way restricts the very spirit of it. Restricting it in any way would only make the window dirty and hard to see through.

 

The internet saves us from ourselves.

 

Many people might think I am over exaggerating, but I speak the truth (as best as I know it). Think about it, what use would the internet be thousands of years ago? Human beings labored all day for their own needs and did not have time to do research, worry about other far-away nations, etc.

 

The internet connects us and helps us understand each other, never before has something like it been possible, and in such a free, open, and beautiful way too. I have no doubt there will be replacements, I have no doubt You or I will be able to find whatever we want in the future. But it's not about us, its about everyone. Most people wouldn't go through the effort to keep it open, most people would be content as long as they could still go to myspace, email, ebay and youtube. The internet is a gift that everybody takes for granted (including myself). I wonder how people will feel when its gone (or neutered)

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Killbot, it's the internet..... not Shangri-La. The whole world wouldn't end if we lost it. SOmething would replace it. Now I seriously don't WANT it to go.

 

At a time when we are being brainwashed daily by the media, at a time when television is shit, the internet as we know it now is the only hope of freedom we have.

Thus yes, if we lost it the world would become a much worse place.

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At a time when we are being brainwashed daily by the media, at a time when television is shit, the internet as we know it now is the only hope of freedom we have.

Thus yes, if we lost it the world would become a much worse place.

 

It would be almost-virtually-impossible to stop the internet. The Internet was developed on a concept and the concept did not change. It would just rebuild again, and again, and again.

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