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So?Crates

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  1. 10.6.2 update success EP45-UD3P

    Also tossed the dice at this setup, but coming up snake eyes on my video card. A month ago I had a few choices ahead of me. Firstly, I could sell off my core2duo/badaxe2 rig (which was running great, btw) and then update to an i7-based Hack. My second option was to upgrade to a Gigabyte board, faster video card, and hold onto my current Ram and CPU. After reviewing the Lifehacker guide, I figured an upgrade to the board and video card would give me the best bang for the buck and allow a Snow Leo install. I purchased the identical hardware as far as what the parts list called for, minus the board. I opted for the 40 dollar cheaper UD3L vs the UD3P, as I did not need the extra X16 slot First, I tried the Lifehacker guide. It worked just fine and the system was stable for 1 minute. After that, I would be forced to reboot thanks to the shutdown dark gray screen. I wasn't willing to give up there though, and later on found a much easier installation method called Kakewalk. It provides a boot DVD that, after startup, you can easily swap for the Snow Leo desk. Awesome. It brought the UD3L board up to snuff and gave me dual video out of my 9800GTX+. But the only way I could get my wireless card to work is by applying a kext that runs in 10.6.2 and up. While the card worked well in 10.6.0 and 10.6.1, 10.6.2 disabled the dual card capability and slowed down GL. It was then the same deal in 10.6.3. Cost so far - 100 for UD3L 150 for 9800GTX+ 100 for Corsair 450 watt psu (to support the card) So two weeks ago, there I was. 350 dollars in, and the only thing I can show for it is a system that (due to a vid card not fully supported) isn't running any faster than my previous 10.5.8 build. Which sucks. Believe me, I tried everything to try and get dual screens working on this 9800GTX+ card to no avail. Last Friday I broke down and decided that the only solution, now already 350 dollars into this update, that I should just bite the bullet and get the UD3P board. Cost of the new board was 150 dollars. And guess what? The install went beautifully from a USB stick. Pretty easy. So what's wrong? I've tested an update to 10.6.2 and 10.6.3 and, in each situation, there is no dual monitor support. In one instance, I tried adding NVEnabler 64 which bricked the bootup process. Booting from the key worked where I then removed NV, repaired mkext and reran the lifehacker bootloader. Now that drive can boot, but it hangs on the spinner. On my second disc, I'm running 10.6.2. In attempting to get the second dvi working on the 9800GTX+, I booted from the key, removed EXTRAS, and installed the Halloween update. Not only did this add some odd OBEY {censored} to the startup screen, but tanked the audio. I tried reversing to the original lifehacker booter. It worked, but now my audio has noise in the line and the drive needs a fresh install. So here I am, 450 dollars in and the best I can claim out of this is that I can run Snow Leo vs Leo. This video card was supposed to offer a large boost to my creative productivity, rather than a large hole in my pocket. At this point, I wish I could send Lifehacker a bill for my woes. More and more, i think my next i7 will just be an iMac. I'd rather deal with some heat issues than this. If anyone has any thoughts on this, I would welcome your input. Thanks So?Crates
  2. I'm not entirely sure I follow. Are you suggesting I run 10.5.8 instead of Snow, or are you suggesting I pluck certain files from it and built that into Snow? Either way, I've actually tried both. 10.5.8 ran faster on my GB board because the card was fully supported. I had it still installed on a second HD. Going back to the main HD, I added several components from the iDeneb and monitor "go boom" in Snow. I'd prefer to run Snow, as I've made the investment with the new GB board and video card. Ok, so do I use the 9800GTX string, because there is no string for the plus version in X86tools. Second, what files do I need to bring over from 10.5.8 and do I put said files in ENTRAS for the real Extensions folder? Thanks
  3. Snow Leopard on Bad Axe 2

    Just wondering. I have Snow running on a Gigabyte board, and I have my older system with BX2 still here on 10.5.8. Could I take a second HD, install show with the newer board, and then swap out the EXTRAS folder that's provided here? Cheers
  4. Using Kakewalk again, I was able to get it to recognize the card. It was fully supported in 10.6 and 10.6.1 this time around. As soon as I jump to 10.6.3, with both TV and monitor connected, it drops second DVI support and gives dual black screens. No matter the version of 10.6.X, the system is still recognizing the card as a 9800 GTX+ and displays ID of 0613. I still have QC/CL and full res for the main monitor under 10.6.3. So far I've tried [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]'s as well as just manually downloading and installing the NV-64 kext, both with no changed result. I have investigated Project X, but no one details the EVGA version of the 9800 GTX+. Project X did detail one GTX+ but it's like yours... ID 0612. Mine is 0613. I picked up the card on recommendation from forms suggesting it was one of the easier ones for compatibility. Currently, under 10.6.3... Just to see what would happen, I disconnected my monitor and plugged the HDTV into the first DVI. As it went to log in to the finder, the screen went blank. It was unable to provide the necessary resolution for the TV. I've tried editing the kexts myself for resman and 50, but both times I appear to be messing it up and it KPs the OS on bootup. If anyone can direct me to where I can either get the proper info to plug in and and a how-to, or be willing to post patched files for the EVGA 9800gtx+, I'd be very grateful. If I need to patch the DSDT, please specify what I need, etc. I'd have posted my questions on Project OS X, but they've locked out the relevant form to only primary members. I was previously booting with the base CMOS installed and have upgraded to Catari. The graphics situation has remained unchanged throughout either original CMOS or new. Here's what Profiler currently shows: GeForce 9800 GTX+: Chipset Model: GeForce 9800 GTX+ Type: GPU Bus: PCIe Slot: Slot-1 PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 512 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0613 Revision ID: 0x00a2 ROM Revision: xx.xx.xx - internal (on one install, I think with Lifehacker, this came up as NVidia -------- DSDT) Displays: SyncMaster: Resolution: 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported Display Connector: Status: No Display Connected
  5. 9800 GTX working in OSX86

    In doing some research, it looks like the EVGA version is ID 0613. Here's how I proceeded... Istalled NVEnabler 64 - tried it on it's own. No change. With NV64 still in place, tried editing Resman and 50Hal. Here's what I did to Resman (and then similarly to 50Hal)... Source: <key>IOPCIPrimaryMatch</key> <string>0x011010de&0xfff8ffff 0x017010de&0xfff8ffff 0x017910de 0x018010de&0xfff8ffff 0x018810de 0x018910de 0x020010de&0xfff8ffff 0x025010de&0xfff8ffff 0x028010de&0xfff8ffff 0x030010de&0xfff8ffff 0x031010de&0xfff8ffff 0x031910de 0x034910de</string> Changed to: <key>IOPCIPrimaryMatch</key> <string>0x0613de</string> Reinstalled via Kext Helper. Rebuilt via Kext Utility. Ran Disk Utility after, just to be double sure. Reboot. Kernal Panic upon logging in. Please, what am I missing?
  6. My main HD had 10.6 installed via Kakewalk. It enabled pretty much everything, minus wireless. It's the fasted way to install because there's no need for a time consuming patched thumb drive. You put the bootloader on a DVD and swap for the OSX disc at startup. In an unmodded update from base 10.6 to 10.6.3 combo update, my EVGA 9800 GTX+ works well in both QE/CI and gives full res on the main screen. But there is no dual monitor support. I tested the stock drivers on the card using Cinebench. Test came back great except that Open GL is at about 45% of the test base standard. Just to give it a whirl, I booted up my iDeneb 10.5.8 that I have on a second HD. Card was fully supported with dual screens. However, tested the card again with Cinebench, and OpenGL was at about 150%. Wow. I've tried various methods without any success for getting full card support in snow 10.6.3. with this card. Now for the pisser - I went and downloaded Lifehacker's installer. It's for a similar board, but includes the kexts and whatnot built in for this card. I wen't through the drawn out process of putting OSX on a thumb drive, and installed his updater to the thumb. I crossed my fingers that, while my board lacks RAID, that the boards may be similar enough. THE GREAT - machine booted right up. You could see that even on the Apple boot screen that it was the correct res and the card came up fully supported without hacking on my part. It even spanned instantly to my TV, also hooked up. It gave full options for my TV as well. THE BAD - Once OS X realizes you're not running the board that Lifehacker suggested, it KPs at about the 3 minute mark. So that's where I'm stuck right now. The Kakewalk method gives me a perfectly functional machine, but no easy way to enable full support on the card. The Lifehacker method gives me full support for the video, but trashes on my board. I've put in a kind request to Lifehacker to make a standalone installer for the 9800GTX+ that can target 4-5 popular boards - but so far no response. It's unfortunate that the Lifehacker installer is an "all or nothing" type tool. Even tried opening it in Pacifist to see if I could extract anything for just video. No go. Anyone have any suggestions at this point? Thanks
  7. 9800 GTX working in OSX86

    Maybe you've got a dif brand of the 9800 GTX+. EVGA site boards say the ID is 0613. When I plugged in 0612 it mucked things up.
  8. 10.6.3 gives support and recognizes the card as a 9800 GTX+. I've got GL/QE and a res of 1600x1200. I've several methods to alter kexts for dual dvi, but this only served to mess things up and take me back to basic res. I reinstalled the 10.6.3 updater, which brought back the one DVI solution. Can anyone tell me, in laymans terms, how to activate the dual DVI in 10.6.3? Thanks
  9. 9800 GTX working in OSX86

    And apparently today is my day to look like a noob. I was so happy that the video worked OTB with 10.6.3, along with CL/QE, that I didn't bother to test the second DVI. The second DVI is really there so I can run this to my TV later on. After your post, decided to try out the dual monitor feature. No go. blanked out both monitors and I had to reboot. I've tried NVEnabler, as well as patching just the card id for Resman, and then also for Resman and the supporting file you mentioned. No go. Took my card back to the stone age at 1024x768. If you could, I'd be forever grateful if you could give me step by step instructions on how to activate the second DVI. Even more helpful if you could just pass along any patched files for the 9800 GTX+ Cheers
  10. My story of swapping a Badaxe2 board for a EP45-UD3L 1. First, I started by swapping out the BX2 for the UD3L. Then, I pulled my PATA superdrive and replaced it with a SATA version (not sure if I needed to, but SATA version is MUCH faster). I kept my 4GB of DDR2 ram, 2 WesternDigital 500 GB HDs, e6600 processor, 7300 graphics and Dlink G card. It was time to switch it up and see what would or would not work. Fingers crossed. Total initial cost for new board and SATA superdrive: 135 2. Burned the Kakewalk ISO boot loader DVD. Started up, pulled it out at the boot screen and put in the Snow disc. Selected the cleaned HD and installed 10.6 like a real mac. Fantastic! Once the system was finished installing and the desktop appeared, I put Kakewalk back in the drive and installed patches for my Gigabyte board. Upon rebooting, I quickly ejected the Kakewalk disc and the HD started loading up... Note that, upon first appearance of the desktop, the HDs were not showing. I've seen this before. If it happens to you, go up to the top bar and select Finder/Preferences. From there you can tell the system to display HDs on your desktop. 3. Upon reboot, I had PERFECT Nvidia graphics (1600 x1200, Quartz) and fully working audio. Even the LAN worked right out of the box. What didn't work though was my Dlink DWA-1320. Damn. 4. Time to update the OS and cross my fingers. Decided to test out first 10.6.2 (kernel panic) and then, after reinstalling the base OS, I jumped it right to 10.6.3 (that's a lot of coffees while waiting for this big update to download and install). So this time, she booted perfectly well, but my once supported 7300 has been downgraded to the dreaded 1024x768 res. 5. After some time looking for a way to patch, I took some Lifehacker.com advice and picked up a 9800 GTX+, which the website stated was compatible with 10.6.3... and it was. However, it won't work in 10.6, so I'm holding on to the 7300 card for any future reinstalls. If you try and install the base 10.6 with the 9800 in, you'll wind up at a gray screen of death and the spinning wheel. But man, is this new card awesome under the latest update! Only bad thing is I had to buy a new PSU to support its power needs. I got away with a 450 watt Corsair. Graphics and PSU upgrade: 250 6. Audio. No dice in 10.6.3. Downloaded a Kakewalk patcher/updater which brought it back. While some of the audio ports are a bit messed, I'm getting perfect audio out for my phones. Will look into a better driver patch in the future and have yet to test digital audio out. 7. LAN still works great, but still no wireless in 10.6.3.I really want wireless. After spending a day reading and looking for patches for my G card, I gave up looking. I ran out and picked up a Dlink wireless N card - 552, that was supposedly working with various patches, etc, but only confirmed for 10.6.2. After bringing the card home and installing, I located a simple guide and some files from TonyMac86. Forget about other guides that want you manually patch drivers... TM86 made it simple. Google Tonymac86 and Dlink 552 for details. So I get the card working, and great... wireless! But damn, why is my system so slow? Youtube stuttered and all apps had this odd delay when clicking pallets, etc. Apparently a defect with the 55X series is that it constantly cycles the CPU for active connections. I took back the card immediately and started to get used to the idea of running 40 feet of RJ45. Initial N card purchase - 50.... then returned... so no cost 8. There's not a lot of documentation on older Dlink cards working on Snow, esp 10.6.3, so I never bothered trying to patch for the one I initially used beyond what patcher I had trusted with 10.5.8. However, I wanted to see if the new Dlink update I had performed for the 552 would work on the G card. To my surprise, I can happily report that TonyMac's solution worked for my DWA-1320! If you can find this card at a good price, anywhere, I suggest you snap it up! It's quite solid and fast. So here I am, running Snow on the new board. Fantastic and smooth performance. So far, the only thing that has come down the pipe from Apple Updates is a security patch. Installed without even blinking. I hope this guide, and some of the pitfalls along the way, will help you in judging wether or not it's worth tossing your BX2 board. In the end, my upgrade cost 385 dollars, but has extended the machine's usefulness for at least a year before I get the i7 itch. Thank you InsanelyMac (general info), Kakewalk (fantastic bootloader), TonyMacX86 (Dlink card support) and Lifehacker (9800 card suggestion)!
  11. I picked up a UD3L from Canada Computers for 95 dollars. I bought this over the R version, as I wanted to swap the ddr2 ram from my previous c2d board. By holding off on a 600 dollar investment in i7 CPU and board, I opted for a souped up graphics card and quality psu. I bought the Evga 9800gtx+ and a Corsair 450 psu for about 250 dollars combined. Kakewalk worked as advertised and the PDF instructions made it dead simple. Thank you so much! The kakewalk update for 10.6.2/.3 was also the only way to restore audio after updating. One small nitpick though. Audio shows as internal speakers. Not a big deal. For the install and update to 10.6.3, I used a generic 7300 graphics card. After updating to 10.6.3, my new GTX+ card was fully supported. It's quiet for a card this big and all graphics are super fast. Thanks for your hard work!
  12. 9800 GTX working in OSX86

    I wasn't sure where to post this, but thought it signifigant news for anyone looking for an easy to install solution to a high end video card. I picked up the EVGA 9800 GTX+ today. It does NOT work with 10.6 or 10.6.1. In order to install the base OS, I used an OS X disc and Kakewalk on a 45-UD3L mobo. I then updated the OS to 10.6.3 and crossed my fingers that Apple's own updated graphics support files might do the trick. I powered down, plugged in the card, and it came right up! I've got full support right now for everything as far as I can tell/test for, and everything is really snappy. No DSDT editing, no funky kext updating. Enjoy!
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