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  1. Yes, I think they are identical on the inside. Thanks, that's really good to know! Do you have hard drives exactly opposite the graphics card, though? Will filling up all the hard drive slots be a problem? On a side note (this is all off topic I guess, apologies for that), I was planning on getting the p150 case but after asking on xtremesystems forum I began to doubt the psu would be enough for an overclocked core 2 duo and x1950xtx. Do you have any feeling you're on the edge there, powerwise? Right, that sounds good, thanks again. Hmm, might have known I could look that up somewhere.
  2. Thanks for that summary, very useful for me and, I'm sure, others. I'm actually pretty set on getting the x1950xtx, I'm planning a pretty high-spec system and the price difference to the xt is pretty small and I don't want to regret being cheap later. I might wait for a while to see if these cards drop in price in anticipation of - or at least response to - the new generation of Ati cards. But those seem to be two or so months away which feels a bit long. *sigh* I might get the cheapest possible fully working card for the time being which would be the 7300gt, I guess. I'm also not sure the x1950xtx will actually fit in the case I'm getting (Antec solo). If I get the 7300gt I can measure it up properly before I take the plunge. When I do get the x1950xtx I will convert it to the Accelero 2 cooler right away, maybe even coupled with some fan solution that expunges the hot air through the pci slots. Oh well, thats another matter. The device id is wholly decided by the underlying Ati board used, isn't it. Or can Sapphire/Msi change the device id although they're using the same board?
  3. I'm considering a x1950xtx card myself and the cheapest one I could find in the EU - by some margin - was MSI's. Nobody has mentioned using this specific card on these forums which makes me a bit leery. However, looking at pictures of all the different x1950xtx cards - excluding the water-cooled ones although that shouldn't really make a difference, right? - I see no external differences at all except the sticker for the brand. Also, the impression I get from reading reviews is that they all follow the ATI reference design completely. So, the question is: Is it safe to assume that any x1950xtx cards will have the same compatibility as the Asus and Sapphire cards? I understand, of course, that there are no absolute guarantees and that it's my risk, but I would appreciate the opinions of some of the more knowledgeable people here. Thanks.
  4. I agree the Big typhoon seems like the way to go for d975x motherboards, with its effectiveness and cooling the area surrounding the cpu. Regarding the VX model, however, I've read of people doubting the reliability of the plastic plugs that fasten the Typhoon to the motherboard. This review, which is very in depth and seems reliable, states that: and in the conclusion: Further, the only other difference between the VX model and the old one seems to be the improved fan. But it's still just a 25 mm fan, right? I read a really comprehensive comparison of heatsinks, including Big typhoon, with different fans. I thought it was in the Silentpcreview forums but I can't find it now. Anyway, the conclusion was that you really need a fan that moves more air through the densely packed fins on the typhoon, to make real use of it. This is your analysis as well, Bofors, is it not? My point is: 1) If you swap the stock Everflow 25 mm fan for a 38 mm fan, the assembly will become even heavier and the potential plastic plug issue will be even more pronounced. 2) If you're going to swap the stock fan for another, there's not much point getting the VX model anyway. Both these points favor the original Big typhoon model. On the other hand, if the problem with the plastic plugs is exaggerated (some reviewers seem to think it works fine) I'm thinking the stock, adjustable speed, fan might serve well as an exhaust fan for the case, where there's less need of changing the speed and high CFM is not necessery. Then the VX model might be a good buy anyway, all things considered. Just another bit of armchair analysis (to keep the thread alive). Thanks for reading.
  5. One thing I can't figure out despite reading here and there is when it's possible to manually select the multiplier for a cpu. That's the point of the extreme series conroes, isn't it? They let you set pretty much any useful multiplier. But then I'm sure I've read that some motherboards let you do this (within limits, usually only downwards, I think) for non-extreme conroes. The first statement makes me think it's hard-coded into the cpu but the second points in the opposite direction. I'm just confused about this. Anyway, I'm hoping to find out if the Bad axe 2 let's you change multipliers for the E6600, for example. If you get the fsb to 500 MHz on this board (optimistic, probably, but for arguments sake) and you stay on air cooling, you would have to lower the multiplier for that cpu to at least 8, probably 7. Lastly, from an armchair perspective, I'm thinking that combining the Bad axe 2, a xeon-branded conroe cpu, and some really stable ram (likely Micron D9Gxx) could be a good platform for overclocking with retained stability. I hope someone tries this soon and publishes the result. Any thoughts on this? Duuuuude, that's reeeeeeally un-Mac! But, as we say over here in Sweden, taste is like the ass, i.e. split in two. (It doesn't translate well because it actually rhymes in Swedish.) Good luck with whatever you do! By the way, if cpu speeds are important to you it might be wise to go with the E6400 instead of the E6300 only to get the 8 multiplier instead of 7.
  6. Finally, some customer reviews on the Bad axe 2 are starting to trickle in on newegg. This one sounds good: "Plugged everything in and it works great. Able to get E6600 to overclock past 4 ghz without a problem, P5W DH wasn't stable over 3.6 ghz. Board is also rock solid stable, Intel did a great job on this board." [Maybe he has a bad P5W DH and a really good E6600? Otherwise the Bad axe 2 sounds too good to be true. Wonder if he's on some exotic cooling.] Another one: "Very nice board (rev 503) and lots of documentation including huge blow up poster showing what connects where." I'll appreciate that poster, I'm sure ... @Bofors: Big thanks for sharing all your research and efforts. It's a goldmine! Also want to let you know there's still interest in any experiments you do on different ram sticks and overclocking.
  7. Is this a cure for not having 512 MB recognized on any ATI x1xxx card or is it specific for x1600? [edit - grammar]
  8. 1) Do "we" know why the x1900xt card works with dual dvi monitors more or less out of the box? I'm guessing it's no coincidence, assuming the Mac Pro mentioned above - from which the info came - was equipped with the x1900xt. Was it? Also, I'm wondering: 2) Do we have any idea if 512 MB is supported "out of the box" on the x1900xt? It would make sense, since the card Apple offers has 512 MB. Or is it not that simple? 3) If this newly discovered dual display support is dependent on the card having the same device id as the x1900xt, it makes me wonder which other cards share this device id. Is it only the x1900xtx? I'm partly asking because the x1950 pro seems like such sweet price/performance deal. Thanks for any answers!
  9. I take it to understand that you've succeeded in extended display support for the second display, not just mirrored? Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't this the first time anyone has done that for an Ati card? If so, this must be considered a major breakthrough!
  10. I'm interested in building a system like this myself, and I have a few questions which I think are relevant to the thread topic. 1) Would the Bad axe 2 change the overclocking capabilities of the discussed system or is it equal in this regard to the Bad axe 1 with the "oc debug" fix? 2) Bofors, you've mentioned it is a requirement for you to be able to run dual displays. I haven't figured out from your reports if you are able to run dual displays with the present setup. If not, is there a way you know of (or in the works) to make it work or have you sacrificed this requirement? 3) Will using four ram modules instead of two degrade the dual channel memory performance? I realize this is a general hardware question but I'm getting different answers and two versus four modules is discussed here. On a side note, my own research has led me to favor the Antec Solo case and the Seasonic 430 W power unit.
  11. I'm in the process of deciding between Mac and Hack, meaning I've done some trawling of the forums myself, mostly to find out about suitable motherboards. I'm a Macker by birth and so don't have any experience with these (hardware) things, but from what I've read I think you might be looking at getting a Bad axe 2, i.e. Intel D975XBX2KR. Supposedly made for overclocking, I think it's otherwise essentially the same as the original Bad axe which seems to have worked very well for OS X. Not sure about all the details you listed, though. It would be good if some knowledgeable people could comment on this. Has this board been tried yet (is it out)? Will what's written about the original Bad axe be valid for the Bad axe 2. Maybe there is/will be an official thread, then that might be the place for this.