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Darren Enns

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  1. Well, of course you should proceed at a slower pace, since this is all very new to you. My advise (same as I gave to my bro) was to do the 'easy' part (partition shrinking) first, to build up his confidence. Later, do the OSX part -- and make sure that you are happy with it (since I am not sure that you can re-do it once you do the last/Linux part). Then, finally, install Linux. As you say, these are all quite radically different than each other -- I am not sure you can be an 'expert' at all three! I prefer to focus my time and learning on just Linux. Although some people praise the new 'netbook' Linux OSs like 'MIE', etc., and there is nothing wrong with you doing so (though I don't know about its 'GRUB' OS-detection capability), if you really want to learn about Linux -- and get 'under the hood' -- then it might be better to go for something like Mint Linux. I have used Redhat -- and now Fedora -- for 15 years now (!), I am impressed by Mint in that it works so nicely 'out of the box', while still giving me opportunities to do the 'deeper' stuff if I want to. I now carry Mint on a bootable USB stick 'just in case' there are opportunities to demonstrate it for people Even though I now have iDeneb installed, I feel like a total newbie, which is a strange feeling for me. I think I need to find some 'hey, try this out' webpages so that I can see what the excitement is all about
  2. That is a good question, and from doing research a few times, the best answer is that the order of installs should be this: 1st = Windows (since it typically overrides all boot managers with its own, and doesn't recognize other OS installs) 2nd = OSX (iAtkos and iDeneb both appear to install their own boot loaders, but nicely recognize existing Windows installs) 3rd = Linux (GRUB is typical boot loader, and can recognize existing Windows installs, but need a bit of help with OSX) My own negative experience was that I was unable to install OSX as the 3rd install. I had to de-install my Linux first. Weird! I would say that it is 'typical' of Windows (Microsoft) to *assume* that no one will be running another OS As far as partitioning goes, you have two easy choices: 1) Burn a bootable CD (or USB stick) with *just* Gparted and use it to first shrink Windows (again, not too sure about Win7 but it works great with WinXP). Then create a new partition for OSX (fat32 is what I have seen recommended, even though you will reformat/erase when doing an install) or 2) Burn a bootable 'live' Linux distribution (e.g. Mint 7), and simply run the GParted partitioner while doing so, to do the same things as above. Doing it this way saves the (small) effort of creating a boot disk *just* for Gparted) During all this partition shrinking/creating, you could also create an empty Linux-ready partition, but I would recommend doing that only *after* OSX is installed -- just in case it would get upset. During the actual Linux install, it will ask you to pick (or create) a partition anyways -- and you have to make sure that you chose the *right* options so that you don't erase your Win and OSX partitions -- of course! I have never run Vista or Win7, but I wonder if they have a *built-in* partition and partition 'shrink' utility? If so, that might save you the effort of doing the Gparted thing. Again, for WinXP, you *must* reboot back into WinXP after doing the NTFS partition shrinking so that Windows can 'repair' the surgery that was done. There are lots of links on the web that talk about this stuff, but these are my own personal experiences. I guess I should encourage you to share your success stories with this thread if you get it working OK. When I first started doing the 'partition' stuff, I was *very* nervous about wrecking my WinXP installs -- now I consider that to be the 'easy' part The advise remains, though, to always make a BACKUP -- even though I have taken the risk not to do so (since then I would have the hassle of finding a free backup utility -- which is also available). Plus, Windows has not been important to me for many years now
  3. I am just a newbie in this discussion myself but... I have personally had a lot more experience with Linux than with Windows, and almost none at all with MacOSX, but I think that this depends on two factors: - minimal space to properly run each OS - which OS to 'favor' for extra disk space The 'easiest' suggestion is to simply divide your 60gb drive into 3 pieces of 20gb each (or maybe 4, since that is the limit to the number of 'physical' partitions that you can have). That is basically what I did with my 60gb drive -- I had gotten the impression that OSX needed at *least* 15gb, so I gave it 20gb. I do not know what the minimum is for Win7. I know that 'ntfs' is standard for WinXP, but I don't know about Win7. For OSX, using 'Disk Tools' you have to reformat anyways to HFS+ (right?). For Linux, 'ext3' is a good choice for regular disk drives (I have not tried the newer 'ext4' myself yet). Linux distributions typically let you re-partition and re-format anyways. From my limited time in this 'OSX' experiment, it looks like the choice of the bootloader is taken out of your hands (at least I didn't appear to have any choice when I tried both iAtkos and iDeneb). In the end, for me, since Linux was intentionally the 3rd OS that I installed, I wanted 'grub' to be the final installed bootloader so that it could boot each of the others. In my case, it did not automatically add an entry for OSX, but it was trivially easy for me to do that myself after the fact. EDIT: Most Linux distributions come with a GUI tool named 'GParted', which makes it quite easy to re-partition a computer hard drive -- including the ability to shrink an NTFS partition (i.e. for WinXP -- for Win7 I think that more issues are involved, so be careful).
  4. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/previou...product=3832534 I am confused -- there is no F.06 listed (I myself had F.03). This is where I got F.13 (F.14 was also listed, but the link was bad at the time). Don't the FAQs always recommend the *latest* bios versions -- so why go back to an even older one? However, yes, I was wondering myself if the bios version was affecting my success -- which is why I posted it, in case that got a comparison going... I certainly agree with you that a USB stick (solid-state media) has a lot more going for it than a DVD burn (spinning mechanical disk). However, at least in my case, iAtkos burned 100% correctly -- and passed the built-in media check -- which is why I am not holding much hope that doing a test install from a USB stick will result in success re: wireless all on its own Anyways, I certainly appreciate yours and others efforts in this venture -- I just wish that I had the same 'out-of-the-box' success that some of you have had.
  5. Hmmm...except for re-partitioning/deleting/enlarging, the odd thing for me was that 'xp recovery' simply did not work I probably did something silly, but I don't know what it was... The good news is that I found that Linux Mint 7 seems to work very well, detected wireless immediately, but had some trouble with sound that I was able to solve after about 30 minutes. I would still very much like to try the 'mac' thing -- but I am waiting for: - someone with the same iAtkos problem as me to figure out the mystery or - for me to get an 8gb+ USB key so that I can try iDeneb (I burned a healthy DVD, but for some reason my external DVD drive dies at the 99% verified state for the DVD) I still have a 20gb mac partition waiting for some good news!
  6. Speaking of this, I could mention that *somehow* my dabbling in this stuff resulted in *not* being able to get back to a booting/working XP, after toasting my iAtkos install, and then running the XP 'recovery console' commands like 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr', which I assumed would work just fine. Perhaps with a bit more patience I would have found the answer, but instead I decided to *re-install* XP. However, for some reason I was 'too far gone'. Long story short: I proceeded with my install of a distribution of Linux, which then nicely provided a dual-boot option to my partially-installed XP session, which I then was able to complete. Ack! Bottom line: I wonder what the *correct* method is to stop Chameleon dual-boot between iAtkos and XP, and return back to a clean/simple XP-only laptop?
  7. Speaking for myself, I do not get that strange 'video selection' window, and I was curious to know how to invoke it (?). I am proceeding with my experiment to try iDeneb 1.3 instead, but just before doing so I noticed something on my iAtkos boot screen: I think it said Chameleon '2.0' -- not '2.1'. Is this significant? I was definitely using iAtkos v7, so was this version of Chameleon within my control?
  8. Hi, the newbie lurker here...I followed the instructions exactly (?) as listed in message #1 of this posting, starting from the section "Installing OS X", including just/only the options that you suggested there -- one would think that selecting "BCM43XX" kext would do the trick, but for whatever reason it does not. EDIT: Are there any 'ethernet' options that could be selected at that time to insure that at least 'wired' internet was available upon completion? I notice that the instructions don't mention that section... I had my new 1035NR plugged in the whole time (I don't trust the battery yet). I have done the install a few times now, including getting the annoying music track while going through the 'registration' screens (no way to control the volume using the keys at that time?). Another thing I noticed -- stealing an idea from the iDeneb instructions -- was to turn the wifi switch off and on again to see if that makes a difference. Ack! It turns off (orange) but there doesn't seem to be any way to turn it back on (blue) again. It might be my imagination, but that funky status seemed to carry over when I dual-booted back into XP (!)... I am not quite sure what I am 'looking for' re: working wifi/ethernet, but both the 'Apple Airport' and 'Bluetooth' devices are 'off' and there doesn't seem to be any way to turn them 'on'. I am afraid that this is all 'greek' to me -- I know my way around Linux pretty well, but this Mac stuff is alien to me
  9. Hey guys, I have been lurking a few days, excited about trying iatkos v7 on my brand-new 1035NR. Sadly, like some others, everything works fine *except* for no network connectivity i.e. wired or wireless. Today, I even upgraded the BIOS from F.03 to F.13 or so -- but no change. I am tempted to try iDeneb, even though it doesn't look so easy. By the time I installed iatkos, however, I had already upgraded to 2GB instead of the standard 1GB -- hopefully this doesn't change the success factor?
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