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About krofa

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  1. Hey Steve - I see what you are saying. I guess I am/was hoping to keep as much as the "just works" principal in tact. After having spent years with driver compatibility issues building 50 some PCs including my music machines, I just want to stay away from that BS. I know - "just get a real Mac then" right. Well, I did love the OC process and the price/performance gains of it. Also, thanks for the avoid blue ATi based designs tip. Do you know if something similar is happening with the nVidia cards? Especially after reading antovasa's post below, I'm now less enthusiastic and little more cautious about the "keep it compatible OoB" idea. Reading more about the OSx86 process gets me to see things in a different light as well... Thanks antovasa for sharing your experience. By mission critical I mean two things; 1. when I was on the PC as a home studio DAW, I had to deal with endless issues and tweaks; I ended up doing less music and more troubleshooting sometimes. With my switch to the Mac last year, it has been almost the complete opposite except for the USB issues that my MBP exibited. I don't want to find my self in a situation again where I am troubleshooting instead of making music! 2. This machine, if it works and plays well, might end up in a pro studio where suddenly it's no longer your own time that you are wasting if something were to go wrong. Hence the care and precaution and willingness to spend a little more for out of box compatibility. Anyhow, the idea is still worth pursuing thinking that I could build a 16GB i7 DAW running happily at 3.6 GHz with an SSD system disk and quality silence oriented components for the price of an entry level Mac Pro or less. Comments: - Your EFI / Graphics comment makes perfect sense! Thanks for clearing that! - Sonnet notes its GbE PCIe series as incompatible with the PCIe 2.0 slots of the Early 2008 MP and incompatible altogether with the latest MP. Maybe they do have an issue with the PCIe 2.0 spec - odd. The big question though: Do you guys think aiming at professional services usage for a hackintosh is sort of a pipe dream to begin with? Would you, after your experience with your own hacks, trust them to stand by you in critical situations? Best, Krofa.
  2. Thanks Steve for the reply! - Absolutely right - no hacked AppleCare here! - Sure I could grab a nice PC 4870 for the price of the Mac 3870 - about 40% better 3D Mark bench but I don't game so at this newbie point I would like to establish a "works no matter what" baseline before venturing into more hacking even if it's a pretty simple hack for the 4870. - I did check out the Apple Dual GbE; it doesn't fit my spacing and slot needs and I don't know that I need two full GbE ports at this point. I could always add a USB ethernet port should I want to separate networking and internet access for example. - I do use Carbon Copy Cloner currently, so I am good on the imaging side. - Absolutely right, I don't need to rush into any software update - I avoid that even with my MBP! Questions, questions... So when you talk about Fake SMC and Evo Reboot as absolute minimums, do you kind of confirm (while all the risk is mine of course) that using those out of box Mac ready products would fast forward me to the "just works" realm for those parts; even when on a hacked motherboard? When you say: "I guess the closer you stick to Mac Pro spec the safer you will be so I think a mix of Apple parts and 3rd party versions" do you mean chipset model equivalency? This points to something I actually haven't fully understood. Apple does sell a 4870 card that would "just work"; but it seems that if you go for a PC 4870, you have to do some kext work, some injection etc. Same for LAN; even if there is chipset model equivalency, it seems you need to do driver work. So I get that there is a benefit in going for equivalency but that in itself only eases the problems right? My approach / hope is to get "for Mac" products and minimize driver work - do you think / know / guess that this would be viable as well? Best, Krofa. P.S. I've already started reading more and more about the works - EFI, DSDT, Chameleon, PC EFI etc etc... Seems the gods of geekery just won't let me be I'm still warm to the idea of having a bunch of "just works" controllers though - they are like those trusted devices that Windows would recognize no matter what - great for future troubleshooting if nothing else...
  3. Hi All! I hope to think otherwise but this may become kind of an awkward and misplaced post - so apologies in advance... I'm a digital audio workstation user, a fairly recent Mac convert, and an absolute OSx86 newbie. However, coming from a build / tweak / overclock background I just can't shake the itch! So I am looking into building an X58 based hack. So far so good. Here is the twist: since I'd like to get 1. "mission critical" stability, 2. very minimal kext fiddle, 3. maximum software update friendliness; I came up with this scheme: disable pretty much every last thing on board of the motherboard, fill in all the blanks with out of box Mac compatible retail products. I know this must seem crazy to seasoned OSx86 builders! After all such a machine will cost much more than a typical hack because of the unnecessary "for Mac" add-on cards. Also I know that for most people the thrill is in the fiddle and the discovery... Anyhow; I've posted the configuration I am looking at at the bottom. Questions: 1. If I go with "for Mac" cards, will I really have done away with the need for a lot of kext tweaks? 2. Will the only two necessary kexts be what DD indicated as absolute musts in the first post? 3. Aside from those two kexts, will I only have to figure out the EFI boot issue? 4. Would this approach make my life really easier for software updates? Thanks a lot for bearing with me & all the best... Krofa. =========================== Proposed Configuration: Gigabyte EX58 UD4P with these items disabled: 1. All non ICH 10 storage and I/O controllers 2. On board USB, FW & LAN 3. On board Audio Mac compatible aftermarket items: 1. Graphics: Radeon 3870 Mac Edition 2. Storage: Highpoint RocketRAID 1522A: two hot swappable eSATA ports: PCI 3. Connectivity: Sonnet Tango Express 800 USB: three FW800 ports + two USB 2.0 ports: PCIe 4. Networking: Sonnet GigaBit Pro: one 10/100/1000 ethernet port: PCIe 5. Audio: Lynx Two: my existing pro audio interface: PCI The works: Core i7-920 | 6GBs G.Skill RAM | 300GB WD VelociRaptor | Samsung S223Q Burner | Lian Li PC-7F Case | SeaSonic X650 PSU | Prolimatech Megahalem Heatsink. Just the silence orientation (Case, PSU, HSF) eats away about $400. The total cost for this build would come to about $1.750 including shipping. Still $750 cheaper than the entry level MacPro. Lacks: 1 x Ethernet | 3 x USB | 1 x FW800 | 1 x PCIe x16. Adds: 2 x eSATA. Same CPU with overclock possibility; older GPU; twice the default RAM expandable up to 24GBs; much faster system drive.
  4. 8-Core workstation

    Hi, Quite curious: Did any of you guys get going on this one? Cheers...