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    timmy_pete reacted to genzai in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    Christ, these must come up for sale once a decade... So frustrating that there isn't a reliable source for this after so much time...
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from HesyRe in Firewire 800 bracket for Quo motherboard   
    I've had some success but still have a few things to work out.
     
    Firstly, I've use continuity checks on my multimeter to determine the cable for each corresponding Firewire pin. The results I've put are below (please note most internet FW pinouts are of the cable view which is opposite to the jack view I am using):
     

    The first surprise was that the 6 wire cluster was for the Firewire 800 port, and the Firewire 400 port appears to be using the 9 cable cluster. The second surprise is that as far as I can tell FW800 pins  5,6,7 & 9 don't seem to have a corresponding pin. I don't understand the distinctions between FW400 and 800 enough to know if this is surprising, but as far as I know two of these should correspond with the shielding around each of the two sets of twisted pair.
     
    I'm confused by the manual's documentation of motherboard pins 7 (+12V) and 8 (+12V fused). If "fused" means an electrical fuse I can't see any indication of it on the motherboard or device side. If they mean fused as in "joined together" then I guess this is a reference to the two white cables that are paired.
     
    Either way, I wasn't able to get headers of the type I needed because I live in a small town. I therefore removed the USB2 header plug and wired up the FW400 port per annotations.
     
    It seems to work with an iSight and external drive - obviously only at FW400 speeds - but I didn't want to test too extensively given my confusion as to which of the Gigabyte Motherboard's power ports was appropriate.
     
    I'm hoping someone who understands the FW800 pinout better will be able to give more information.
     
    I'm presuming otherwise I'll be able to wire the port up like I've done with the Firewire 400, but that it might only run at the slower speed.

     
    Thanks for your help, all the advice is spot-on and I'm triple checking everything as I go.
     
    I haven't had much luck with Gigabyte thus far. Initially I'd tried to order a motherboard bracket or get access to a similar manual and their service department has flat out refused to assist because I don't own a motherboard available for purchase off the website. Reasoning that this was a general enquiry (not a warranty claim) fell on deaf ears, and as far as they're concerned any motherboard missing the Gigabyte logo (as ours is) is a counterfeit and therefore ineligible for service. 
     
     
    Hopefully my additional headers come soon; I had to order from China - I live in a smallish town and my electronics shop only sells 5x2 IDC plugs suitable for use with ribbon cables.
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from HesyRe in Firewire 800 bracket for Quo motherboard   
    After more than a year Quo still hasn't given a definitive answer when the promised Firewire bracket will be available, I've given up hope. I need it and can't wait any longer, so am going to try build one myself.
     
    I ordered this backplate on eBay on 28 March and it arrived from China today. The bag it comes in bears the Gigabyte part number 12CR1-1UBIE1-01. It has 2x USB ports terminating in a yellow 10 pin (2x5) IDC plug. There is also a FW400 and FW800 port. A 6 cable cluster and an 8 cable cluster terminate on a purple 16 pin (2x8) IDC plug.
     
     
    The good news:
    Seems very good quality and is seemingly from Gigabyte.
    With a magnifying glass and scalpel you can pull out plastic tabs on the plug, allowing easy removal of the pins intact.
    Cable length suitable for my mid sized case.
     
    The bad news:
    Wire colouring is inconsistent with what I expected (Missing purple, grey and brown cables on the 800 cluster) 
    9 pin layout is not as I expected (6 pin might be largely the same)
    9 wire cluster has two wires fused on one pin (not per 1394B spec)
     
     

     
    The wiring pinout for an 8 wire and 6 wire bundle.
     
     

     
    The 16 pin IDC style plug header.
     
     
     

     
    The wires removed from the header.
     
     
     
     

     
    The other end is shielded and epoxied. It doesn't look like I will be able to access the wires easily, and my multimeter probes aren't fine enough to use on the ports directly.
     
     
     
     
    I'm hoping I'll still be able to use the FW400 port, but if that doesn't work I'll just use the 800 & USB ports and then rely on the motherboard's IO pane 400 port. At this stage because of the inconsistency in the pinouts I've seen and the ambiguity of colours, it looks like I'm going to have to cut up a FW800 cable (and possibly a FW400 cable too) and test with a multimeter to determine the correct pinout.
     
    I'm going to be guided by the wiring colours listed at this website (which does not mention motherboard ports at all)
     
    I don't know enough about the Firewire spec to know if the two fused wires are OK or if I'll need to splice one onto a new pin. Any help on this would be appreciated.
     
    This is the pinout of the current configuration:
     
     

     
     
    This is a diagram I've made from the motherboard page and an image I found on the net of the (apparently correct) colour spec (which follows afterwards). The Black and White cables with a dark background are thicker than the other black and white wires. The thick white wire is actually two terminating on the same pin.
     

    (the reference to manual means the Quo motherboard manual). Website means random image found on Google.
     
     

     
    Firewire 800 pin layout
     
     
     

    Firewire 400 pin layout. (NB - judging by colours, it is possible that the FW400 part of the 16Pin plug is in this format with only Black S-GND on the opposite side)
     
     
     
     
     
    I will hopefully get a chance tomorrow to pick up some 10 pin (5x2) IDC plugs, a battery for my multimeter and a Firewire cable I can take apart to test pinout. From there I'll test further.
     
     
     
     
    IF ANYONE HAS DONE THIS BEFORE I'D REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR GUIDANCE. I don't want to damage my Firewire controller.
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from HesyRe in Firewire 800 bracket for Quo motherboard   
    All valid points, but they advertised it prominently as being Firewire 800 compatible, when in fact it is not without considerably expensive or necessarily complicated workarounds. I'll keep an eye out to see if any more copies of this FW800 bracket appear, but it might be a while.
     
    Out of curiosity, does OS X's System Profiler list the speed of your HDD when connected? It should be under Hardware> Firewire.
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from HesyRe in Firewire 800 bracket for Quo motherboard   
    Thanks HesyRe for reviving a dormant project. Looks like this part is out of stock, but I'll see if ASUS support has service parts shippable for a reasonable rate to my country. My earlier efforts resulted in the two ports on my eBay sourced bracket working at FW400 speeds, and I was never able to get the 800 jack working at full native speed. I've since focussed on replacing Firewire gear instead, as it seemed a more simple course of action.
     
    As an aside, there is possibly now an easier option. After Quo shipped my Kickstarter board I asked for months on end about whether the bracket they'd promised to make was any closer to production. They ignored me outright on at least 10 occasions, so a friend emailed them as a new customer and said they were only interested in buying Quo if Firewire worked. The friend was told they sold a bracket and it was available for $12. They didn't reply to any emails I sent subsequent to this (to the same address) so it's pretty clear I'm on their ignore list.
     
    While this is nowhere near as abysmal as the outright theft from the  folks who pledged $2,500-$3,000 for full systems which more than a year later haven't been delivered, or shipping boards to website customers before Kickstarter backers, it is a pretty awful approach to customers. I'm not willing to even risk another $12 with them to get a product delivered, but some people who want an easy option and are willing to gamble with Quo might well ask them more about this item.
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    timmy_pete reacted to IronManJFF in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    Think I just found out why .. while looking for why Apple did not put a USB 3 port on their Airport devices , I chanced on a white paper from Intel that says 
     
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    timmy_pete reacted to IronManJFF in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    It did shutdown totally unattended with no user logged
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    timmy_pete reacted to IronManJFF in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    @Timmy_Pete
    Just scheduled a shutdown 30 mins from now ... will know when I get home in a hour .. if system is up or down 
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    timmy_pete reacted to IronManJFF in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    Never said anything about Nvidia. Without knowing what is card actually is, there is no way to tell if it should work oobKext-dev-mode was what i was hinting at...
    Now since you are so full of clues, help the guy with his troubles instead of bashing people around
    Well i never selected mode 3 but maybe it got ported over when i built it.. I started with a clone of my MacBook Pro internal drive... That is why i was curious of what other people would see. 
    I am set for scheduled boots ( it works ), will test schedule shutdown tomorrow and report... It used to work for me on a prior bios but i haven't used scheduled shutdown in awhile
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    timmy_pete reacted to rhys216 in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    King.. I don't know what has happened to you lately. I remember a time when you were very helpful, now it seems you just want to make people feel retarded.
    I'm sorry but I'm a noob at all this (even just using macs) and need things explained in plain english.

    Can someone who knows how to fix the imessage/facetime verification and who is actually helpful, please explain how to fix the issue, or at least a work around.
    I know I'm not the only one here having trouble getting facetime etc working...
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from oSxFr33k in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    Does anyone have much experience with Wake on LAN and this board?
     
    While this BIOS is much better than prior versions (I used to only get successful power on intermittently, tested my WoL tool on other machines and it worked reliably with them), an issue I've had in the past still occurs:
     
    On all BIOSes (including H3C 1479) the machine turns on successfully, however after shutting down from a WoL boot, it reboots a second or two later. Subsequent shut downs nearly always work, but its a bit of a pain having to shut down twice.
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from genzai in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    I've also reached out to a Kansas based company that used to sell FW800 panel-mount cables and still does custom cable orders to see what it would cost to make something compatible with this board's Firewire headers.
     
    Presuming this is possible, who here would purchase one if the price was reasonable?
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from genzai in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    I've also reached out to a Kansas based company that used to sell FW800 panel-mount cables and still does custom cable orders to see what it would cost to make something compatible with this board's Firewire headers.
     
    Presuming this is possible, who here would purchase one if the price was reasonable?
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    timmy_pete got a reaction from Bernard Leclerc in OS X compatible motherboard -> QUO   
    Has anyone had any success making a FW800 bracket?
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