Im not sure if i want a 8 or 16 gb touch...how much space does the jailbreak take..and if anyone has an idea on apps that would be rad!

Depends on the Jailbreak.

Soft Jailbreaking uses the disk image, and for 1.1.3 soft jailbreak, it runs right on the device and downloads the disk image, decrypts it, and writes the jailbroken image to the device.

Hard jailbreaks (1.1.1, 1.1.2) don't use disk images, and take up no space at all, as they modify the existing firmware right on the device.

8GB is plenty of space, as disk images are only ~150MB+.

what the most common method used? AT that programs dont use a lot of space right? What about browsing the internet does that take up space?

The iPhone has two partitions

1) 300MB HFS+
2) 7.3/whatever HFS+

The second partition is mounted in /private/var/root

Now the OS takes up some space on the first drive and the rest is left for applications etc. All custom apps ie Installer etc is installed on this partition.

The Jailbreak just enables writing on the 300MB Partition. Thus it does not tale up any space whatsoever. Apps only run from the 300MB Partition, thus the phone has to be Jailbroken.

Ok so i ordered my 16gb touch, which is the best way to jailbreak it?

ziPhone......DUHH. Or maybe iJailbreak(Not too sure)


BTW Touch/iPhone partition structure is the same.


Also all your Music/Movies/Photos/Contacts/etc... all are in the second bigger partition

If you purchased a 16GB iPod touch, your best bet is a soft jailbreak, as ZiPhone has been having major issues handling the idea that the iPod touch 16GB and 32GB use two physical SSD's and the program runs into issues which have not been successfully debugged yet. Zibri ordered his iPod touch 32GB and should start testing soon.

Anyway, as for your 16GB, you want to soft jailbreak to 1.1.3 and here's how:

First, you will need the firmware: 1.1.1, 1.1.2.

Download ZiPhone, and run the app. Under advanced settings, you want to press "DFU Mode" to kick your iPod into Device Firmware Upgrade mode, and when the process is done, your iPod will reboot and show the "Connect to iTunes" graphic. When iTunes opens up (or if it doesn't, open it up manually) and close any dialogs that pop up. You should see the button for Restore, press and hold the SHIFT key and then click "Restore". Browse to where you saved your downloaded firmware's, and select "iPod1,1_1.1.1_3A110a_Restore.ipsw". Let it finish.

Now, on your iPod touch, open up MobileSafari, and browse to http://jailbreakme.com and tap "Install AppSnap". You browser will now crash and you will return to your home screen (SpringBoard) and the jailbreak will commence. You will notice that it will say something about installing Oktoprep, but it doesn't work. When your iPod returns to the lock screen, slide to unlock, and open Installer (a new icon on your SpringBoard).

In Installer, tap "Donate Later", and go to the Install Tab and install Community Sources (look in "All Packages" it's in alphebetical order), and let it refresh your sources.

Now, go back into "All Packages" and look for "OktoPrep" and install it.

Now, open up iTunes and open your iPod tab on the left, and look where you see "Update" and "Restore" you want to SHIFT+click "Update" and browse to your firmwares and select "iPod1,1_1.1.2_3B48b_Restore.ipsw". Let it finish.

Download the 1.1.2 Jailbreak, close iTunes, and restart the computer (this method works best on Windows, I've had major issues trying to get it to work properly on a Mac due to an error with iPhuc), then kill any processes associated with iTunes such as "AppleMobileDeviceService.exe" and "iTunesHelper" and "iPodService", etc. Run the 1.1.2 Jailbreak and check "Install SSH" and press "Jailbreak!". Your iPod will now be reflashed, and you must restart the device when it completes. It will auto-reboot once, this is normal.

Now, you are in 1.1.2 Jailbroken, you want to open up Installer again, and install the following packages: BSD Subsystem 2.0, and possibly Community Sources once again. After that, open up the "Sources" tab and tap "edit" then "add", and add the following and press OK: http://ipodtouchmaster.com/files/repo.xml

Now, once it's done refreshing the sources, you want to scroll untill you see the "Mobile Jailbreak" folder, and inside tap "1.1.3 Jailbreak+iPhone Apps!". Go through the prompts. Now, it will look like Installer has stalled out, but it really hasn't. It's doing it's job, and it may take a while. It has to downlload the 1.1.3 firmware image, and decrypt and jailbreak it, and then write it to the device. When it finishes, it will automatically reboot, and you will be rewarded with a Jailbroken 1.1.3 and iPhone apps plus the wiggle feature for SpringBoard for free.

Congrats! You're done with the jailbreak. Now, open up Installer, and search for BossTools, and install it. Run the new app, and relocate all the fonts, ringtones (yes, they exist on the iPod touch as well!) and apps so that you can install more apps (If you dont do this, when you hit th app limit, Installer will error or crash).

Now you're really done.

WOW..thanks for the guide..ill test it out asap when i get the ipod!!!

ZiBri updated his ZiPhone app to 2.6 to support the iPod touch 16GB and 32GB, you should have no issue with a hard jailbreak now. Make sure your iPod touch is a clean 1.1.4 before you start.

By clean what do you mean? When i get in monday ill update it asap and work the jailbreak! Any apps you recommend?

Clean meaning fully restored, factory condition iPod touch 1.1.4. Wait until a fix is posted, some people had troubles with a part of the jailbreak where it said "Spamming AT" and never finished. The fix ZiBri is putting up soon will correct that, so any 1.1.4 iPhone/iPod touch can be jailbroken.

As far as apps go, I recommend only the apps which you will use most often. Customize and SummerBoard are good theming apps, for example:



There are some hidden apps that I access with a app called "Dock", you'll notice a yellow starburst in the corner of the screen, I tap and slide my finger so I can see the rest of the apps, since I don't use them often but they are still handy.

what about adding links to installer to get more programs?

Those are called sources, and they require a repository to access. You can add sources like:

http://rep.frenchiphone.com
www.apogeeltd.com

And many more. Some can be installed and loaded right from installer, such as Community Sources, BigBoss, Chris Miles' repo, and more.

Hara Taiki, how do i get the free iphone apps??? the updates?

it also says I'm running out of space....I haven't installed a lot

There should be a source for it in installer. I don't know the EXACT source offhand, but the iPhone 1.1.4 apps package includes the wiggle feature and is packaged by someone named "David".

I'm extremely tired as of writing this post, so I will turn you to a forum I frequent often: http://ipodtouchfans.com

Cool ill check it out! Thanks for all the help!