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Numberzz
As planned, the iPhone SDK was released today, along with a promise about a new 2.0 update to the iPhone software. There are a lot of new features that are actually planned for this new 2.0 update. First of all, there are a host of new enterprise features that companies will love. Secondly, we will get a AppStore, where you will be able to buy and download applications that Apple makes available. It kind of looks like installer doesn't it?

Unexpectedly, Apple also demoed a few apps that it and 3rd party developers wrote. Most of these were games, which looked fun I might add. They also said that many apps can be easily created in "under 10,000" lines of code. Now I know you must be saying "Boy gee, I've written papers longer than that." Good for you, but that is very short for an application.

Currently, you can download the SDK for free, although the site is acting slow and my download isn't done yet (damn you 1.5MB/s download speed!). You can also apply for a shot at the beta 2.0 software. If luck is on my side tomorrow, my step-father's company will get a copy and I will have a 2.0 iPhone. tongue.gif

coolmatt49
I was shocked seeing games being played on the iPhone...in FULL 3D!! Too bad it is being released in Late June and not earlier.

I want to download the SDK but I keep getting an Access Denied error every time I try to download the SDK. I registered with the iPhone Developers account with my iTunes account, but I still have yet to download the SDK. Anyone have this problem?
hackedintosh
Way to stay on top of the facts apple!

"Distribute your applications on the App Store, the 'exclusive' channel for iPhone and iPod touch applications."

blink.gif Er reeeally?

Hahaaa- Nice try though steve, nice try....
geforced
WTF june ohh come the fuk on sad.gif , if the dam sdk is ready and you can make apps on 2 weeks then why wait 3.5 months. its looking good thou lets hope that that new 2.0 fimware update fixes all those dam bugs like the safary fu censored2.gif crashing $hit.
pyrates
No voip on edge? Trying to protect at&t's business model I see. No thanks. I'll continue to run my jailbroken iphone that doesn't restrict the kind of apps I can run on it.
lord_muad_dib
i wonder if the phone simulator is a full iphone environment or just a virtual machine hmm...
pauℓzurrr.
Im trying to use the interface builder, but i cant find any iphone/ipod interface icons and and stuff, only those from leopard self. Anyone knows how i can get them?
goldfrapp
do you think firmware 2.0 would be anywhere on the torrents anytime soon?
Alessandro17
QUOTE(lord_muad_dib @ Mar 7 2008, 10:24 AM) *
i wonder if the phone simulator is a full iphone environment or just a virtual machine hmm...


Hi lord

Where did you read about a phone simulator?


InorganicMatter
QUOTE(geforced @ Mar 7 2008, 12:24 AM) *
WTF june ohh come the fuk on sad.gif , if the dam sdk is ready and you can make apps on 2 weeks then why wait 3.5 months. its looking good thou lets hope that that new 2.0 fimware update fixes all those dam bugs like the safary fu censored2.gif crashing $hit.

They are probably trying to make sure there's a few good apps out there on "release" date. I'm certain that the big-name software companies already have it; it's probably going to be June when normal inde-developers and the community get it.

QUOTE(goldfrapp @ Mar 7 2008, 09:38 AM) *
do you think firmware 2.0 would be anywhere on the torrents anytime soon?

I'm sure it will be, but why would you risk your phone with a beta firmware?

QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Mar 7 2008, 11:11 AM) *
Hi lord

Where did you read about a phone simulator?

It was in the Engadget coverage: a copy of the iPhone software running in a virtual environment that interacted closely with the IDE for software testing and debugging.
Azurael
No PPC version of the SDK?

That's a bit of a pisser. It's not like PPC is a distant memory yet.
macgirl
QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Mar 7 2008, 11:11 AM) *
Hi lord

Where did you read about a phone simulator?


http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/keynote/

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/rtp2...ernal=fj2l3s9dm
Alessandro17
InorganicMatter, macgirl

Thanks!
erei33
QUOTE(Azurael @ Mar 7 2008, 12:31 PM) *
No PPC version of the SDK?

That's a bit of a pisser. It's not like PPC is a distant memory yet.

Agreed, I feel for G5 owners sad.gif

About time really, I wish it was being released sooner. Still, progress is progress I suppose.
(MoC)
I'm stuck with my iBook until I get a new monitor.... sad.gif
Colonel
Oohh.. creating iPhone apps on my Celeron D running Leopard.. this should be fun..

Its kinda lame how you can write iPhone apps with the SDK, but you can't even run them on the device unless you pay apple and sign up for the enterprise thing or wait until June. I wonder if you could write your app with the SDK in Xcode, then copy it over to your jailbroken iPhone.
stroke
Right now this SDK is basically the existing toolchain, sans the simulator. It's not that much different, mainly because you still need to programmatically allocate controls because of the lack of Interface Builder (right now, at least).
ResX
Just leave it to the l33t h4x0rs out there to figure this one out.
bob12345
am i the only person who has an error downloading the sdk? what do you think is wrong?
goldfrapp
QUOTE(InorganicMatter @ Mar 7 2008, 12:24 PM) *
I'm sure it will be, but why would you risk your phone with a beta firmware?

there's always a restore option

besides, the 2.0 firmware is as risky as leopard betas, which i've never had a problem with
rjohnstone
The iPhone simulator (Aspen) runs 1.2 firmware, not 2.0.

The iPhone interface elements are not available in the Interface Builder just yet. That will come with the final SDK release.

As for the 2.0 firmware hitting the wild... I doubt it. Only corporations get to have that one and it has one helluva NDA attached to it.
Overdriven
PPC Users: Let's not get sad. I just got it to successfully compile an app in Xcode, and run it on the Aspen Simulator.



(To get this all to work, install the right parts using Pacifist or whatever you prefer.)
Lostgame
I'm trying to figure out how to get the 'official' SDK apps working on a Jailbroken touch. I'll let you know as progress goes.
(MoC)
I'm trying to get jailbreak apps running on the simulator smile.gif
Numberzz
I have had to be trying to do this for the last 4 hours or so. It is almost impossible. I don't know why, but apps that are compiled in Xcode with Cocoa Touch just don't work on jailbroken 1.1.4 iPhones. I'll keep trying...
stroke
There's probably some sort of check with SDK-built applications for the runtime environment; so it probably requires 2.0. Of course, you could try modifying SystemVersion.plist and seeing if that changes anything.
(MoC)
I think I jailbroke it. I renamed installer.app to match the parameters on navbar.app. It crashes but does launch. Now I am investigating the code in the navbar.app so it will launch "Installer.app" as a chain.

Proof of Concept:


Numberzz
Or:

(MoC)
Nice job Numberzz! Where did you find the Application folder, I thought that you had to trick it! tongue.gif


EDIT!!!!:

EDIT NUMBER TWO (I CAN MESS WITH SPRINGBOARD STRINGS!!!):
Azurael
QUOTE(Overdriven @ Mar 8 2008, 06:08 AM) *
PPC Users: Let's not get sad. I just got it to successfully compile an app in Xcode, and run it on the Aspen Simulator.

(To get this all to work, install the right parts using Pacifist or whatever you prefer.)


Actually, I think the fact that they've intentionally barred it's use on PPC is worse than if they just hadn't compiled it as a unibin to start with!
(MoC)
AND SPRINGBOARD STRINGZ!!


tayklor
Installer won't work without a recompile for PPC/X86, The Simulator runs the iPhone apps on Intel, no CPU Emulation here.
pauℓzurrr.
Anyone else thinks this is a funky file?

(MoC)
THEY COULD EVEN HAVE A 3G iPHONE!!!!

"GPRS"

pauℓzurrr.
No, 3G would be UMTS, GPRS is EDGE (EGPRS) Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
(MoC)
Oh, I thought it standed for something else. Apologies.
tayklor
j-P Where did you find that. It's not in my Simulator's Apps Folder.
pauℓzurrr.
Look closer at the picture tongue.gif after the word where: under general.
tayklor
I went there and it's not there.
(MoC)
I hacked the Preferences.app file with some good old plist editing.





Numberzz
And that is what me and MoC have to show for a days work.
(MoC)


P.S: My account lost its virginity in this thread; Post 1337!

P.P.S: Numberzz and I will still be working on it, so stay tuned, we accomplished great things today.

NumberzzEdit:It's actually "P.P.S" and not "P.S.S" because of it's roots. "P.S" means post scriptum in latin, and because we know what post means, we wouldn't be saying "scriptum" twice. So your saying "post scriptum scriptum" when you are supposed to say "post post scriptum." Latin FTW...
Th3 A1R
QUOTE(goldfrapp @ Mar 7 2008, 09:38 AM) *
do you think firmware 2.0 would be anywhere on the torrents anytime soon?


I sure hope so... but probably not for a while. sad.gif .
pauℓzurrr.
Dont you guys have these files?

Edit:
Found out it are the actual apps, but all pictures en plist's needed for it are missing, i think these are the 2.0 apps but just not the complete ones...

punksovereign
just to save some people's time i must tell you iPhone SDK requiers Leopard 10.5.2 or later and an Intel Mac (not really sure about the intel thing). i downloaded it on my 10.4.8 Celeron and found out. Not very pleasing. that's all.
Th3 A1R
Yeah, where do you find the .plist files?
winnimac
Works perfect on kalyway 10.5.2.

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Th3 A1R
It works on Kalway? Thats sick as hell, tongue.gif.

I found the string files and the plist files, but I don't know what to edit. On the plist files there are a bunch of integers that I change around and nothing happens.
Am I looking in the wrong place to make the normal iPhone apps show up?
paul.campisi
They wouldn't be 2.0 apps...In my opinion its ways to early for 2.0 apps to be made. 2.0 Is due for release in June right?
stroke
Well there's already the 1.2.0 firmware, which the simulator uses (as some variation), so there have to be 1.2.0 apps already.
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