Hi,

I just installed and am trying out Ubuntu 7.10 in Virtualbox. Seems like a reasonably good distro. I like most of the features.

Being new to Linux, my only problem is I don't know if there is a way to directly boot into it without having to enter user-name and password (as it would be a single-user machine).

Is there any way to do this or do I have to enter it everytime I start it up?

Also, right now I am downloading Gentoo 2007. Opinions about which is better?

Thanks and regards.

You'll love Ubuntu!

To disable the login at startup:

Applications > Settings > Login Window.

You'll find the options you need there.

Good Luck!

Ok, thanks. I figured it out. Which version are you using? The settings were different on my system.

System > Administration > Login Window > Security > Enable Automatic Login

n00b using ubuntu?

That gave me a very rich laugh. Anyway, good luck with Linux, you'll really like it.

Ubuntu is like one of the most n00b distros out there. Sorry.

If you're a n00b, don't use Ubuntu. It will leave a horrible taste in your mouth and leave you feeling like all Linux distros are as slow and buggy as that one is.

Check out PCLinuxOS or openSUSE. And for goodness' sake, do yourself a favor and make sure you use KDE; a Windows power user going to GNOME is darn near the most difficult transition out there.

I couldn't disagree more.

I started with ubuntu and have stuck with it. I have also started with Gnome and feel it is way more like "windows" than KDE. KDE seems cheap, ugly, and poorly though out.

Just my opinion though.

Gnome works OK for me, KDE is OK as well. But Ubuntu is not a "n00b" distro, it worked well for me and the only part you have to be careful about is where you install the GRUB bootloader, caused me trouble to no end. If you are a n00b, start out with something simple and Windows like, and Ubuntu certainly fits the bill. No need to argue over Gnome or KDE, if you want Gnome go for Ubuntu, if you wand KDE go for kubuntu (ubuntu with kde).

Yep, even if ubuntu is classified as a "noob" distro, that doesn't mean that a power user won't be able to enjoy it...
I personally am not what you could cal a noob, and I use rather frequently a simple tty as my session, and Ubuntu is fine for me.
When I want a GUI, GNOME is my favorite, I find KDE too "bling bling" for me, it looks, behave strange to me, while GNOME is esay to use, understand and don't get in my way when I want to work.

ubuntu is suited for noobs AND geeks, I would not recommand it for a compilation fanatic or someone who use Linux for more than 10 years, but it really satisfies my needs, and it will satisfy yours I believe.
Nice choice!

Sick of KDE too. KDE 3.5's interface is an usability hell and looks very ugly. Also, finding a setting in KDE is extremely hard, since you can't see it in the places you would expect, but you MAY find it 3 months later wen searching for an other setting.
Konqueror as file explorer sucks , and also for some weird reason in KDE a single click does the things all other desktop environments do with double-click. (opening a folder for example).
Also the KDE interface is notorious for its clutter and waste of space. And an other thing I found extremely annoying is window resizing. When you resize an app window and close it, KDE thinks it is utterly useless and contradicts all usability priciples if it saves the window size and position. So next time you have to waste time resizing System Settings for example. And these are basic things that should have been fixed like 2 years ago.
And I don't want to spoil the thread with KDE 4 issues...

Anyways, back on track.
Why do people call a distro a n00b one just because you have a graphical interface for almost everything?
Does it lack a terminal or something? I found Ubuntu to be capable for everything an OS is supposed to.
openSUSE caused me a lot of problems, and sometimes I had to reinstall it, a thing which has never happened to me using Linux, and eventually went back to Ubuntu. IMHO starting your Linux experience off with Ubuntu is the best choice. It has a really helpful community and there is a myriad of tutorials, guides, and applications to choose from, way more than in any other distro's case(icluding openSUSE ).

lol, Ubuntu is a noob distro, it's idea for Windows people and more packages than any distro out there, I use it simply because I can't be arsed to install another and set up at the moment.

Ubuntu is not a NOOB distro, it's a distro that's easy for noobs, and capable of all things that other distro can do, via its terminal.

Ubuntu has been marked as a "lol look Ubuntu what a noob", and that's a shame. basically, when you meet another geek, you hesitate to show him your Ubuntu beacause he will laugh and treat you as a stupid newbie.

In fact, Ubuntu is just made easier for noobs, but includes avary softawer required for a daily use, you can install almost every IDE you want, hack all the way on it...
I don't see why Ubuntu should be a noob distro more than Debian, as Ubuntu can do everything debian does...

That pisses me off.

Yea I know, me too...

Some would say it's made easy for noobs which makes it a noob distro, it's not Slackware or Gentoo. Ubuntu tries to do everything for the new user to computers which makes it a "noob" distro because thats what it's aimed at, new people to computers or Linux.

I love ubuntu, and i hate kde. it's too kid looking. like an interface for a pre-school kid on a toy computer. and everything starts with a damn 'K'. Konsole, Kedit, Kubuntu, Kchess.... ha. gnome is the way to go. throw beryl on there and you'll love it.

Yep, me too, can't stand KDE.
I find it cheap, bling bling and soooooo hard to master...
It's like the settings are dispatched randomly between the applets of the configuration panel, and when you're looking for one, it has already moved to another location, so that you can only find it when you're not looking for it...

KDE 4 is not that bad, mostly because of all the technologic bases it settles, but the "K" fanatism isn't my cup of tea (K stands for what? Ku Klux hummm no, probably not)

Gnome is totally simple, has nice themes (easy to install), and allows really simple access to most of programs, config, etc...
And it has a nice little Terminal, which is like my second home

I love Gnome. Also my piece of advice is if you have VMWare then definately run it on that first. Saves burning and testing a thousand disks. Also you can see in real time which distro you like best and if you don't like one then all you need do is destroy the Appliance file and will not harm your PC in any way. But I only recommend this if you have good ram (2gb or more) which most PC's have these days.

hmm....ilife, iworks, ichat, imovie, isight, imac, etc.

Nothing wrong with starting names with a "k", Apple is very similar as well.

Thread title is an oxymoron...

At least Apple has a spellcheck.

QFT&E

Spelling word wrong u mean like "konqueror"?

Exaktly.
And Kolf, DigiKam, Kolourpaint, Kuickshow, Okular, Akregator, Kaffeine, Kontact, Konsole, Krusader just to name a few.

It's just unprofessional and annoying as .

You find it annoying, I don't and I doubt do many other kde users.

Other then that Kde is still more feature rich and better looking than Gnome still.

Calling your apps imovie, ilife, ichat, isn't professional either and I agree neither is konsole and kaffeine, but at least its cool and fun.

yeah, whatever kool it is.

Gnome is stil more reliable and easy to use than any of the kde versions.

Reliable and easy to use? Well Gnome's aim is simplicity so its targeted to older or even less technical people according to Linus, its targeted to idiots...no offense, I remember reading Linus said something like that to the gnome devs that "if u think your users r idiots then only idiots will use it".

Reliability depends on the distro u try, if u mean kde is buggy then yeah if u use some crap like kubuntu, u will have the worse time of your life, use pclinuxos, mandriva, opensuse, and even sabayon u will have a better experience.

I have heard even Linux Mint's kde is better than kubuntu.

no offense, but this is stupid.
It also depends on the desktop environment and on the apps too. Also Kubuntu uses KDE "as is" with modifications only to the appearance and excludes some apps, but the rest of the desktop environment is unchanged, so that proves the unreliability of KDE rather than of Kubuntu.

Believe me, I can call my openSUSE experience anything but better.
The LiveCD often crashed, and after rebooting rarely started at all. After a loooooong installation and an update I was left with a X11 terminal and a mouse pointer. That's good only if you're in 1990.

KDE is the only complete linux desktop experience. All other desktop enviorments will leave bad taste in your mouth.

I agree I never liked the opensuse live cd's either but they promise that they will be good in the next release and don't forget its their first time making a live cd as far as I know. I hope u weren't talking about the beta 2 of 11.0.

In Kubuntu bugs r introduced while packaging applications and many bugs kubuntu has r not even up stream kde bugs.

I agree with the above poster that kde is the complete desktop experience, gnome looks like a system from the early 90's or something.

Personally I don't care at all.



KDE is very intuitive for people who come from Windows. When my sister came to see me and tried KDE for the first time (she had been using Windows for years) she learned in 5 minutes.
Besides, GNOME is a pain to package, ask Patrick Volkerding who dropped it from Slackware.
Debian default desktop is GNOME, but during development you'll notice that KDE is always a lot less buggy than GNOME.
Put KDE4 on top of that, which is a revolution, while GNOME, release after release, has hardly anything new to show. and you get the full picture.

Exactly Kde is innovative, gnome isn't, they finally got compositing with version 2.22 and all it can do is draw a tiny shadow.....what a joke.

Does it bother me? That would be a big fat no.


Because there is no need for GNOME to revolutionize yet because the users don't care as much about fancy interface touches and widgets(the peak of revolution WOOOOHOO111!11!11!!). Tell me what is in KDE that is soo innovative you can't stop speaking about in every damn *nix topic.



Look, I have no problem with KDE, nor with opensuse, just please, please stop talking about them as if it was dropped off the skies, ok?
Just stop spamming every single topic with "oh, you have (insert distro name here)? Well why don't you try our beloved openSUSE? As a matter of fact, why don't you change it into ANYTHING but Ubuntu, ok? Because you know my favorite distro is openSUSE, and you know that ubuntu is for n00bs and suse is for h4x0rz like me, and if you dont convert to suse you will burn in hell, because even Mother Theresa used suse to check her mail...." kinda things, OK?

By no means I want to order you guys anything, but you just turned an Ubuntu topic into a suse praise club. Just like about every second topic I've seen here.

I never started praising suse on this thread. In fact its u who has started talking about suse in this thread.

QFT&E

I stay away from Ubuntu threads, unless you start writing against openSUSE.

And besides, my point here has only been KDE vs. GNOME (where did I mention openSUSE?)

Exactly we never even mentioned opensuse, it was him who started speaking of his horrible experiences with suse, we were only praising kde this time.

QFT&E
oh really, snakeeyes?

how is that praising suse? there r many other distros out there.

I could have meant any distro that has kde and lets face it kubuntu is the worst kde linux distro.

I know a couple of ubuntu users who have tried kubuntu just to check their kde and they agree with me that kubuntu is the worst linux kde distro out there, so if ubuntu users themselves think kubuntu is crap then it really is.

If u don't beleive me then give it a try and see for your self.

In Hardy 8.04 kde 3.5.9, cutting and pasting file won't work as it will leave the file in the original location after copying it, who expects that kind of a bug in the default file manager of a final product. You can test it yourself if u want.