It seems that as the days move forward, so do the builds of the next update to Mac OS X Leopard. 10.5.2 is a very anticipated release and it brings many features and bug fixes that were thought to be not included in the original shipping version. The install size of the latest build is said to be a bit lower than it was before, down to 1.0GB from 1.2GB. The new update also is said to fix 134 bugs from the latest version of Leopard, 10.5.1. Also included outside the installer is a package that includes a lot of graphics drivers.

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Ok, this is all redundant information for the most part.

How about: When is it coming out! That is what I want to know!

Hope it will fix most of the hack problem too.

I agree, this is another useless thread about the same thing. We are tired to see the same {censored} and nothing really new.

lol Numberzz.

I think that you might have realized that the news has been a bit spacey lately because there really hasn't been any GOOD news.

I thought this topic was saying that 10.5.2 was released so I went and installed Leopard again and went to check for updates and it said my system was up to date.. ugh I'm pissed.

I hope 10.5.2 is released soon.. they've been teasing us with this for a long time and this topic makes it even worse! lol

New iPhones and iTouches?

Don't worry, next Macworld...

apple seriously is teasing us. those bastards!
I click on software update and it takes a lil' while to load. so that usually means there's a new update.
well when it finishes loading, it turns out to be a iweb update.
and today i clicked software update. it took a lil while, so I really thought this could be it, what we've been waiting for.
but noo its a iphoto update.

aaaaaagaaggggggghhhhhhhhhh

release it already!!!!!!!!!!!!

*cough*

If Apple only knew what they're doing to hackintosh releases by delaying the release of 10.5.2

That's true, but filling it in with repetetive news, I think, is worse. It sort of ruins InsanelyMac's News credibility. What I like about the RSS feed here is that the news feeds isn't numerous. That way, the few ones there are the important ones and really pack a punch, unlike other sites who just barrage us with [mostly] useless updates.

My 8600 gts is preforming alot better, other 8x00 nvida owners can checkout this thread to see how support is for other 8x00 cards without going to 10.5.2.

Colonel, do they make those with a fried chicken-flavor? If so, sign me up!

Again, no good news for those of us ALREADY with iPhones and iPod Touch's!

Ahaha... Great.... More chicken jokes...

lol waiting for it.

I hope the new drivers can work some magic on my hackbook's ATi card lol. Besides that, I'm eagerly waiting for 10.5.2 as well ^^

a lot of graphics drivers? does this mean Mac Pros are getting more choice? Or new iMacs may be getting new cards?

It means Apple needs to make their current product's graphics cards work correctly before they even think about putting any machines with new cards out there.

But still, there is a problem ! - Nvidia cards are build with a purevideo core inside for video movies acceleration .. so far, as I know, apple drivers ignore this powerfull feature ... or I am wrong ?!

Pfft, I like the topic I posted in Reader News about this better it has more information

Nice to see my screenshots being put to good use though - seems various sites have gotten into the habit of using mine now O.o

~mac.nub

Well considering that 9C30 is perhaps the final build, I really don't know at this point their plan, they probably going to start another endless build cycle until 9C35 or 9C40. I don't see a valid point to someone who already has this build to upload to rapidshare if Apple decided to release the final today or tomorrow or even next week or whatever they think is ready.

I think the point is that we have no idea when this will be released. As you said, it could be next week, it could be next month. If it is the final build, then, cool we don't have to wait until Mar. If not, then the final build could be easily installed over the top of this one. This is different, of course, than Vista SP1, where each progressive build must be installed (followed by 2-3 reboots) and then uninstalled (again, 2-3 reboots) before the next build is installed.

Although, I have to give props to MS--while the constant installing/uninstalling/reinstalling is a pain in the ass, at least it finally works as advertised. Vista is not hosed (it is, in fact, unharmed) after uninstalling a service pack and that is a first for a MS operating system.

What the difference in Graphics Performance ? Do all models receive a speed boost from this release ?

It is quite possible. Since my upgrade to Leopard on my MBP I have found it to lag at times. Especially the dock. Running Vista with bootcamp, when I upgraded the drivers with the Leopard disk i did get an increase in available RAM. As for the release. Apple will release it to the public when it is ready.

What's the great rush to have this released? At the end of the day 10.5.1 is *functional* sure there are problems, but Apple would rather sort them in this one nice rather large update than rush out "patches" every 5 minutes like done for Vista.

The reason it is "shrouded in secrecy" is so that things like the MacBook Air etc. aren't confirmed before release. If you looked hard enough you could have found the MacBook Air being mentioned in previous 10.5.2 Builds before it was released. Also, people aren't supposed to share it, as they'll have signed a legal agreement not to disclose it/the details about it with Apple. And you can also find confirmation of a new MacBook Pro in the current developer release.


Does not actually mean there are "no issues" it means if there are issues, which there undoubtably will be, they don't know what they are, which is why they ask a specific technical audience to test the areas mentioned, that have been updated and/or recently fixed.

The fact is, it'll be released when Apple thinks it is ready to be, not because a few people are bitching about it not being released. Apple never set any release date for this, it's not like it's late. So why complain? At the end of the day, either...

1) Wait patiently like (almost) everyone else...
2) Pay for a Apple Developer Connection account with access to the developer seeds.

Or...

3) Find the update yourself. Ask a friend, know someone with an ADC account? Why not see if they can get hold of it for you. Or learn to search the internet effectively. Things like this aren't hard to find if you know where to look.


You can easily update previous builds of OS X Leopard. Simply install the reversioner, then the new update... it's really not hard. And it doesn't hose your system. You don't need to "uninstall" the previous version first. And it's a hell of a lot quicker than a Windows service pack install/uninstall. Props to Apple for that one.

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~mac.nub

I was checking your screenshots for the new the new Leo builds. Now what caught my attention was that you have 4 Partitions on your drive. AFAIK that you can only have max 3 Parts as the rest aren't seen by XP and arenot MBR Compatible.

Could you please help me out as to how you got more than 3 Part??

I want more partitions.

MBR supports up to 4 primary partitions

Yup.


If you really want to know how I personally did it, I simply used Paragon Partition Manager under windows to create the partitions, I formatted the Mac ones as FAT32 first, then during setup used disk utility (under the Utilities Menu) to re-format the FAT32 partitions as HFS+ Jornaled. My Windows partitions are NTFS formatted.

Hope this helps.

~mac.nub

Also you could put Windows and Linux on logical/extended partitions, and in some cases Mac OS x too.

This is driving me insane!

@mac.nub Thanks, this was on a Real Mac right. I dont wanna kill my iMac/Leopard

No, not on a real Mac, this is on my Laptop Hackintosh. You'll need to use iPartition (or an equivalent program) if you want to do that on a Real Mac, personally i'd use iPartition rather than anything else.

Haven't got my MacBook Pro yet, i'm waiting for the updated version to be released

~mac.nub

Wont make a diff with modern CPU's.

Actually, these graphics driver updates will probably screw some of us up, wont they??

U use titan on a Nvidia7600GS and get a garbled display after res change or wake from sleep, these updates may fix that...

No, I doubt it.

I'm running 9c27 with 9C30 Nvidia kexts and no pnics or anomalies though.

Don't you mean 9C31?!

AFAIK 9C30 is the latest build.

-Stell

Nope, its 9C31 released today.

If that's the case then we need to change the subject title from 9C30 to 9C31.

Thank u Numberzz and hope i get it soon.

Actually, no it's 9C31:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=429183

@mac.nub

Oh crap!!!!! Real Macs have this thing that coz EFI has only primary parts (unlimited that too), but as MBR only supports 4 Primary Parts, you can only have 3 usable Partitions (One is EFI).


I was so hoping you found a fix.

Hurry up =[

I'd be surprised if it came out this week, especially with Safari 3.1 about to be released... Maybe early next week.

uhm, maybe we need to title the next threads as "New 10.5.2 build 9Cxx"

will it be possible to install it on hackintosh straight from the box or should we wait for the hacked release?

Only Smarties know the answer...