OpenSuSE 11.0 Installer Gets A Face-Lift:


http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=arti...m=974&num=1

Wow!!!

It looks awsome. I like the GUI.

I will install it next week. Im playing with Ubuntu Studio 7.10 at the momment.

i've been a Ubuntu fan since the early years, but when 7.10 was released I lost a bit of faith, you just got me interested again and I'm actually downloading it NOW!!


SticMAN

My friends, please keep in mind that openSUSE 11.0 is a very early alpha, thus very buggy.

I'm very much looking forward to openSUSE 11. KDE4 has been a huge disappointment so far, and I'm still waiting for a real KDE4 distro, not the slopped-together stuff we've got now. I really wish they would also include the very latest and greatest NVIDIA and ATI drivers, but they get all weird with the non-open nature of it, so I guess we'll have to live with an install after the fact.

On an insignificant side note, any word on if this installer will support wide displays?

Sorry, I don't quite get that.

Looks nice.

I wonder why the folks at openSUSE why don't plan to include KDE 4.1 in this release. According to the KDE roadmap 4.1 is going to be released around July, and it would be a much better choice for a desktop distro like openSUSE.
4.0 is clearly not ready for mainstream usage.

Anyways, looking forward, the devs seem to do a beautiful job!

Because openSUSE 11.0 is going to be released in June. Even if they wanted to wait for KDE 4.1, after you put a major desktop environment like KDE in your distro, you still need to do quite some testing before you release. That would delay the release by several months.
But in any case, once KDE 4.1 is released, it will be easily available from the Community Repositories.

It looks the exact same, it's just green instead of blue?

That looks great. Even if openSUSE 11 gets delayed be a couple of months, I think KDE 4.1 would be worth the wait.

A17,

That does look pretty and I think it may be a major factor in making more people try out the OS. The more user friendly and visually appealing the installation interface, the more people are willing to try.

Also, I want to look into OpenSUSE, I am sort of a nerd and like to try all things, but two questions first...

Is OpenSUSE a live cd distro or installation only?

Can you use Gnome or XFCE over KDE? I do not like KDE and that what initially steered me towards Ubuntu instead of OpenSUSE.

Thanks,
Cody

Keep on macKIN'

Indeed



It is both (meaning you can get a LiveCD or an installation CD/DVD). More important, since 10.3 LiveCDs have also an installer.



Sure openSUSE is second to none when it comes to desktop environments/window managers, all very polished.

Thanks for the info, I looked it up also because I was bored.

May give it a try later this week if I have time...

Attention all Linux fans!
I've been a Windows liker until I found OS X. Now I never come close to Windows again unless I need to.
What's so special about Linux? Can anyone give me a reason why its better than OS X? Not trying to be arrogant or anything, I'm just exploring territory...
Thanks

I was actually about to ask the same thing. What's so great about Linux and Unix and all them? Other than great security and running servers. Like what can I do on it and what can I use? .Exe's? .Dmg's? It's own special installer called .Nix? (Last one was a joke)

Maybe because it is free in both meanings of the word? And maybe because it can be installed legally on virtually any hardware without waiting for somebody to graciously hack it for us? (And even that doesn't always work, far from it).
And maybe because (most of us) are geeks and don't want to limit ourselves to just one OS?

Exactly, too many of us "geeks" like to be completely legit every once in a while, and that is where linux comes in...

Linux is open source, OS X is not, which some guys can be really weird about. Beyond the money cost and polished-ness of the OS, that's the only real technical difference. When it boils down, all NIX/BSD systems are essentially the same.

Windows and OS X, the OS plus the applications can cost up to several thousand bucks (if you want to be legal).
Linux isn't just an OS, it is also a collection of thousands of free applications (more than 20,000).
Installing them is also very easy. Whilst in Windows or OS X you must install them one by one, enter the serial number, activate... in Linux all you do is tick a box in your distribution package manager and click apply! There is no limit how many applications you can install each time.
That is why a clean install of Linux takes me only a couple of hours, while a clean install of OS X or Windows takes several days!

I was under the impression that OS X could be gotten for $600 and zero headaches, with iLife included for free, at your closest Best Buy or Apple store...

I was under the impression that you need a lot more applications than what you get by default included with the OS.
Heck, you don't even get a free uninstaller like AppZapper or a complete (well, almost) CD & DVD burning application like Toast Titanium

Downloading now. if anyone would like to try it you can find it here.

No one needs any of those. The only thing needed that doesn't come free with a Mac Mini is iWork, which actually comes as a trial and can be unlocked for a fraction of the price of Microsoft Office. All the software one needs is either included with OS X (Mail, Address Book, iChat, etc.), or can be freely downloaded (Firefox, VLC, and Handbrake).

No one needs a CD/DVD burning application?

Between iTunes, Finder, iDVD, and Disk Utility, most users will be satisfied. But I get your point.

Thinking about downloading this now, but I might wait a while for a more stable release. I plan on trying it at some point though.

Finder and Disk Utility have all the burning one needs. Heck, those two can do everything Nero on Windows charges you $100 for.

Seriously now though, don't tell me that OS X users don't need commercial applications, unless their use of computers is extremely limited.

Really? Then please burn me a multisession Blu-Ray Disc or a CD-EXTRA using it!

Linux based OS X clone anyone?:

http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11

This looks so crazily similar to OS X

I think he was pointing out that you don't need a commercial app. for burning disks. I didn't need anything at all for burning.
Ripping, on the other hand.....


Back on subject, the installer reminds me of the 10.3 one, but it does look prettier.

I know, but I was referring to his previous posts:

Don't give up on Ubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) is in it's Alpha stage now and it looks schweet!

If you have something to say about Ubuntu start a new thread.

Who honestly burns Blu-Rays? I sure don't, and I don't know a single person that does. CD burning is going to way of the dinosaur, there's no reason to cling to it or support a dying industry with overpriced burners and expensive, buggy software.


Yeah, they finally gave up on not ripping off Mac OS and went for the full nine yards.

Are you sure about that? Not everybody agrees

http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/12/magazines/....biz2/index.htm



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LG GSA-H55L LIGHTSCRIBE € 30.00

K3B, one of the best CD/DVD burning software: FREE

No.
That's a simple mockup an average user created. It presents his ideas and that's about it.
This is how Ubuntu 8.04 Alpha 3 looks like. Clearly the final theme is not ready yet, but there have been some interesting discussions about it in the ubuntu-art mailing list.

Uhh, no? Almost all modern disc drives are combo DVD+CD burners. Most major OSs include data and audio CD burning through the shell or an application. There have been tons of times when something I want to burn is less than 700MB, so I use a CD. Myself and many others also regularly burn audio CDs.

I have just tried OpenSuSE 11.0 Alpha 2.
It is still very buggy, as you can expect from an Alpha, but also extremely promising and stunning beautiful, especially KDE 4.0.1 which is now a lot more mature.

What is this theme? Thats awesome.. But the basic version is just the same ubuntu than before.

Guys, why do you spam my openSUSE threads with Ubuntu stuff?

Alessandro,

I never knew your hatred for Ubuntu was this extreme, to not even let people talk about it in your presence

jk jk...

Seriously now, Ubuntu posts in an openSUSE thread are offtopic

Any other known improvements over OS 10.3? The installer kind of reminds me of the old Fedora installer from 1 or 2 (can't remember). Are they (SUSE) doing anything with Gnome or any of the other desktops in OS 11?

What I can tell you is that KDE4 should be the default KDE.
I don't know a lot more. I start testing openSUSE seriously by the late betas or even RCs.

Shame Novell are in bed ****ing MSes brains out but what the hell? Who even cares about why free software was started anyway?

I use openSUSE daily, as my main OS, and to me it seems still pretty free, in both meanings of the word.

I read about Novell removing things from OpenSuse that MS supposedly owns patents to and that was it for me, cant see myself using SLED, SLES or OpenSuse out of choice....

Linux is a kernel.

You do realize it's a article about theming and modding GNOME to look like OS X and it's not a distro that looks like that?

Anyway,

I dont like the green but thats just SUSE's colour and there's alot of gradient color banding, I know Jimmac is working hard on that :-)

Yes we know that, but people don't always use words in their original meaning.
"Linux" means "a Linux distribution" for most.




Distributions have always done that (removing or, rather, not using proprietary software)
I can't see how that is a problem.
Debian does that more than any other distro.
Solution: add one or two extra repositories.