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schwartz
i myself smoke weed daily and love it. im interested in what percentage of people here do drugs
PSPHax0r9
Nope smile.gif.
bwhsh8r
i love me my drugs.

ive done:

cocaine (twice.)

lsd

shrooms

ecstasy

weed

various opiates

amphetamines (adderall)

theyre fun, but not for everyone. be safe. research

EROWID.ORG (unbiased drug information)
(MoC)
No, and I hope I'll never even get close to it.
Paranoid Marvin
Caffeine, odd bit of paracetamol and alcohol with friends occasionally.

Unless you were referring to illegal drugs sleep.gif
erei33
QUOTE(Paranoid Marvin @ Jan 6 2008, 05:33 PM) *
Unless you were referring to illegal drugs sleep.gif

Just because something is illegal does not mean it is bad. (Homosexuality was illegal once)

I'm up for anything thats not hardcore or life threatening. (so not much wink.gif weed and alcohol is it really)
Kiko
hmm, what does horse tranquilizer fall under?
Mattwood
when i was younger i did but lifes changed and so have i, now paracetamol, alcohol, caffeine is all smile.gif family man now smile.gif
bofors
Note to Americans:

paracetamol = acetaminophen = Tylenol

QUOTE(schwartz @ Jan 6 2008, 04:33 PM) *
i myself smoke weed daily and love it. im interested in what percentage of people here do drugs


I think you left out some major categories of drugs in your poll like:

cocaine

heroin

methamphetamines

ecstasy
hecker
I love weed. Yup, that's about it for me. No alcohol, tobacco (except for the light javanse I use for blunts) or any other drugs for that matter.

I am conscious, however, that weed will affect my work mojo, so I toke only when I am free of responsibilities (usually with my mates) or when I absolutely need a break.
schwartz
QUOTE(Kiko @ Jan 7 2008, 07:16 AM) *
hmm, what does horse tranquilizer fall under?


are you talking about ketamine? if so you could vote for psychadleic but technically its a discociative. not a suprise to see weed is the most popular choice smile.gif damn i want to get high now...
ThinkMark
I am currently doing rennie and sertraline. the former is something your suppost to take for acid, but i like um' and sertraline i take for OCD, but i pop 2 at a time cos they taste nice.
Don't know if there considered doing drugs, but hey. what ever floats your boat.

Think Mark
Think its more of an addiction than drugs.
erei33
Bofors is right, you should edit your poll to include more options.
Soündless
L-S-D! L-S-D! L-S-D!
lord_muad_dib
OMG blink.gif
Kiko
yeah, ketamine it is then, i also think you should remove tobacco and alcohol, as they really arent drugs drugs, or add more options
R2k.
i prefer cocaine to dance like a machine wink.gif



~R
bongfury
I've done long stints of just about everything except 'H', a month's wig out on crystal meth was the worst of the lot health wise, fine whilst on it but I really did think I was dying for the week long come down, not worth it but a very interesting man made as you can chase it, snort it, eat it, you could inject it (but thats a dirty, dirty thing to do IMO) The wierdest was definately ketamine or rohypnol (the date rape drug) that is one experience I can say I definately do not remember a single thing after taking the first one for a period of about 12 hours, anything could have happened to me and I wouldn't know (I only know what I was told and none of it was good, I was offensive, tried to screw my best friends girlfriend and threw a guy down a flight of stairs.. completely out of character), long time favourites where LSD and E's.. tamazipan/valium I enjoyed immensely... almost grown out of all drug use now but it I did a good 15 years worth of unadulterated bender, still hanker for some nice sticky green almost all the time but manage to keep a good smoke to about a weekend a month..

There are positives and negatives to drug use, most certainly you can have some great, great times and become much closer to freinds than people could ever imagine, enlightenment and open minded'ness is par for the course, but after a while everything becomes a let down, you will never have nights out like those first experiences on something (especially e).. it's often a slow slope downhill from there unfortunately... suprisingly I blame 'green' (weed) for the lion's share of the problems I have now been left with (some social paranoia, severe memory issues.. reduced vocabulary because I can't remember words I want to use at times, a little dislexia (but controllable), which can be embarrassing as I now have a fairly high level career in IT management) contrary to what people say weed does f*ck you up when abused regularly biggrin.gif, mind you I cained it like a mad man at an oz or so a week from the age of 15, I'm now 33, kind of hits home with the realisation I could have paid off a mortgage with the amount of coin I've spent on green. most of us grow out of it, some quicker than others.

as others say.. enjoy, be mature about it, look after your freinds who aren't, know your limits, be well informed and you'll have a good chance of coming out of it alright
hecker
QUOTE(bongfury @ Jan 8 2008, 02:42 PM) *
I've done long stints of just about everything except 'H', a month's wig out on crystal meth was the worst of the lot health wise, fine whilst on it but I really did think I was dying for the week long come down, not worth it but a very interesting man made as you can chase it, snort it, eat it, you could inject it (but thats a dirty, dirty thing to do IMO) The wierdest was definately ketamine or rohypnol (the date rape drug) that is one experience I can say I definately do not remember a single thing after taking the first one for a period of about 12 hours, anything could have happened to me and I wouldn't know (I only know what I was told and none of it was good, I was offensive, tried to screw my best friends girlfriend and threw a guy down a flight of stairs.. completely out of character), long time favourites where LSD and E's.. tamazipan/valium I enjoyed immensely... almost grown out of all drug use now but it I did a good 15 years worth of unadulterated bender, still hanker for some nice sticky green almost all the time but manage to keep a good smoke to about a weekend a month..

There are positives and negatives to drug use, most certainly you can have some great, great times and become much closer to freinds than people could ever imagine, enlightenment and open minded'ness is par for the course, but after a while everything becomes a let down, you will never have nights out like those first experiences on something (especially e).. it's often a slow slope downhill from there unfortunately... suprisingly I blame 'green' (weed) for the lion's share of the problems I have now been left with (some social paranoia, severe memory issues.. reduced vocabulary because I can't remember words I want to use at times, a little dislexia (but controllable), which can be embarrassing as I now have a fairly high level career in IT management) contrary to what people say weed does f*ck you up when abused regularly biggrin.gif , mind you I cained it like a mad man at an oz or so a week from the age of 15, I'm now 33, kind of hits home with the realisation I could have paid off a mortgage with the amount of coin I've spent on green. most of us grow out of it, some quicker than others.

as others say.. enjoy, be mature about it, look after your freinds who aren't, know your limits, be well informed and you'll have a good chance of coming out of it alright

Funny you should blame weed for your problems after abusing so many hard drugs for such a long period of time (unless I misunderstood you and you have just "tried" them). I am also in my thirties and I have smoked weed ever since I was in highschool (just as many of my mates, I may add) and none of us have any of the problems you mentioned before and most attained our university degrees without further difficulties. Of course weed is, for my part at least, the only drug I use.
Now, I don't mean to be judgemental but I think that your problems are probably rooted in already existing physical conditions (specially dislexia), worsened by your abuse of strong chemical drugs. If at all, you should blame yourself and not grass for being irresponsable.
Alessandro17
Painkillers when I have a headache and coffee occasionally (not every day)

Edit: it is not very much a matter of principle. It is that all drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, make me feel sick.
bongfury
QUOTE
Funny you should blame weed for your problems after abusing so many hard drugs for such a long period of time (unless I misunderstood you and you have just "tried" them). I am also in my thirties and I have smoked weed ever since I was in highschool (just as many of my mates, I may add) and none of us have any of the problems you mentioned before and most attained our university degrees without further difficulties. Of course weed is, for my part at least, the only drug I use.
Now, I don't mean to be judgemental but I think that your problems are probably rooted in already existing physical conditions (specially dislexia), worsened by your abuse of strong chemical drugs. If at all, you should blame yourself and not grass for being irresponsable.


nah you didn't get me wrong mate but I did slow down around 24 with the 'harder' and stuck with the comfy ol' green habit, of course I accept full responsibility for what I've done, I was well aware of what the risks were and don't regret any of it for one moment, I found it character building...

I only began to notice the spelling/memory issues later and have read about many other cases of people exhibiting the same symptoms due to 'le skunk', people react to stuff in different ways, I've seen a mate of a mate end up in a psychiatric ward for months fearing 'we' and his own parents were 'after him' following his first session on mushies.. everyone else was fine (it was my first too). As you say yourself it affect's your 'work mojo'.. so I take it by that y'can't be arsed.. where as, I used to work harder when stoned at work (although due to the paranoia someone would detect I was wasted... an enjoyable paranoia all the same).. I'm straight now and tossing it off on the internet all day!
Proteo
Why hackintoshes aren't in the list? I admit I'm hooked to them!
hecker
QUOTE
I only began to notice the spelling/memory issues later and have read about many other cases of people exhibiting the same symptoms due to 'le skunk', people react to stuff in different ways, I've seen a mate of a mate end up in a psychiatric ward for months fearing 'we' and his own parents were 'after him' following his first session on mushies.. everyone else was fine (it was my first too). As you say yourself it affect's your 'work mojo'.. so I take it by that y'can't be arsed.. where as, I used to work harder when stoned at work (although due to the paranoia someone would detect I was wasted... an enjoyable paranoia all the same).. I'm straight now and tossing it off on the internet all day!
Good answer. And kudos to you for getting your act straight, brother!
I remember hearing about psycho cases like the one you mentioned when I was in school but I have honestly never met anyone like that in my life (at least not because of smoking weed). I tend to think that things like that happen to people with certain mental preconditions. I mean, it's known that quite a significant amount of people suffer from depression without even knowing it and weed might probably help open some doors that are hard to shut again.

For what it's worth: I believe that the human mind is capable of many things and that if we can break the mental barriers imposed on us by our own society and belief systems then we may discover fascinating new capacities beyond our wildest dreams.

Cheers,

hecker smoke.gif
bongfury
QUOTE
For what it's worth: I believe that the human mind is capable of many things and that if we can break the mental barriers imposed on us by our own society and belief systems then we may discover fascinating new capacities beyond our wildest dreams.


Just and True, words which could only be conceived and delivered by a true herbalist biggrin.gif!..
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Proteo @ Jan 8 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Why hackintoshes aren't in the list? I admit I'm hooked to them!


True! I was hooked as well, for a while (I mean, building 3 in less than a year can't be normal tongue.gif )
Wrenbird
weed, but not regularly.
JonTheSavage
I guess this poll explains why we are all so {censored}ed up.
I guess whoever made the poll was too high to realize that caffine should be added.

Take note that prozac, whos real name is Fluoxetine, is %94 floride. Considered toxic waste by the EPA,
and dumped into your city drinking water to cover up the evidence. It causes people to be calm and dosile.
Toxicologist Phyllis Mullenix demonstrated in the mid-1980's that rats given fluoride as youngsters or
adults became passive, underactive and lethargic. It is also the main ingredient in rat poison.
hecker
QUOTE(JonTheSavage @ Jan 19 2008, 07:59 AM) *
I guess this poll explains why we are all so {censored}ed up.
I guess whoever made the poll was too high to realize that caffine should be added.

Take note that prozac, whos real name is Fluoxetine, is %94 floride. Considered toxic waste by the EPA,
and dumped into your city drinking water to cover up the evidence. It causes people to be calm and dosile.
Toxicologist Phyllis Mullenix demonstrated in the mid-1980's that rats given fluoride as youngsters or
adults became passive, underactive and lethargic. It is also the main ingredient in rat poison.

Holy crap! Is this true? Do you have any proof?
erei33
QUOTE(hecker @ Jan 19 2008, 04:28 AM) *
Holy crap! Is this true? Do you have any proof?

I do not know if fluoride makes you docile and lethargic, but many modern cities do fluoridate their water. Also, the name for Prozac is "Fluoxetine hydrochloride" and the ingredients are:
QUOTE
Each hard capsule contains 20 mg of fluoxetine as its main ingredient. The other ingredients (excipients) are: corn starch and dimeticone. The ingredients of the gelatin capsule are: gelatin, blue food coloring (E131), yellow iron oxide (E172) and titanium oxide (E171).

Water Fluoridation
Water Flouoridation Controversy
I can see where Oryhara is coming from with all of that, however I'm no pharmacist and I cannot say as to whether or not it's true. JonTheSavage, could you provide some evidence to support your claims?
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE(hecker @ Jan 19 2008, 09:28 AM) *
Holy crap! Is this true? Do you have any proof?


He has no proof, only wild and incorrect assumptions made about the fundamental basics of chemistry.

Prozac has the empirical formula of: C17H18F3NO
And the most 'fluorine' compounds put in water have the empirical formula of NaF, Na2FPO3 and SnF2.

It's hard to tell from the way it is written here, but to put it simply, the fluorine compounds in tap water are a world away from prozac.
Also, at a quick glance, you can see that prozac is nowhere near 94% fluorine. (I will work out the exact value tomorrow, when I'm not so tired, and have my chemistry notes)

JonTheSavage is making the incorrect assumption that every fluorine compound has the same effect on the human body.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the most basic chemistry, that they teach you at school when you are at secondary school.

EDIT: I have just done some calculations to prove my suspicions.
Firstly, Prozac is 18% fluorine, not the 94% quoted in the post above.
Secondly I have worked out that you take in 125x more fluorine when brushing your teeth than taking one tablet of prozac (by atomic mass of fluorine in the compounds). The fluorine compound found in my toothpaste had a concentration of 1440 parts per million, whereas fluorinated water has only 1.2 parts per million at the very most. In other words, toothpaste contains 1200x more fluorine than fluorinated water.
So I think it is safe to conclude that fluorinated water has absolutely no similarities to prozac, otherwise, doctors would prescribe toothpaste instead, as it contains far more fluorine.
CLiDE FTW!!1
QUOTE(bwhsh8r @ Jan 6 2008, 05:28 PM) *
i love me my drugs.

ive done:

cocaine (twice.)

lsd

shrooms

ecstasy

weed

various opiates

amphetamines (adderall)

theyre fun, but not for everyone. be safe. research

EROWID.ORG (unbiased drug information)

Everything from the list but acid.
four!
i find this thread really disturbing.
Deviant0ne
<3 Caffeine.
JonTheSavage
Have a look.

http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/MWF/

It doesn't change the fact that Sodium Fluroide is main ingredient in Rat poison, and toothpaste will carry
labels not to swollow it, or give it to children under 6 years of age.

Very small amounts of Flouride are naturally found in drinking water, it doesn't affect you. However, larger amounts
of it, more than what is found naturally, can cause serious problems, and permanate brain damage.
(MoC)
QUOTE(four! @ Jan 22 2008, 08:00 PM) *
i find this thread really disturbing.


I agree, where has society gone to these days. And why the hell do you need drugs anyway. "It releives stress" or "They make me happy" are not good answers. It just shows how insecure and idiotic your ways of solving problems really are. I am not singling people out, just saying what is needing to be said.
hecker
QUOTE(MasterofComputers @ Jan 27 2008, 08:02 PM) *
I agree, where has society gone to these days. And why the hell do you need drugs anyway. "It releives stress" or "They make me happy" are not good answers. It just shows how insecure and idiotic your ways of solving problems really are. I am not singling people out, just saying what is needing to be said.
I basically agree with you when it comes to using drugs to escape your problems instead of confronting them. But isn't it also true that we don't "need" to have sex unless it's for reproduction? Yet we do it because it's in the human nature to do things for fun even if you may screw up and get some girl pregnant, right? Hell, even animals, like some species of monkeys enjoy eating half-rotten fruits to get a buzz.

I'm not in any way endorsing drugs here, specially chemical/refined ones but please don't make the mistake of judging someone just because they may use a drug for recreational purposes.

hecker
(MoC)
I understand your terms of usage, hecker. Hell, why not try occasionally (and good comparison) just to fool around. I meant to talk about heavy daily addicts. To me the statement "do you do drugs" means if you currently are using a substance regularly, not if you have ever "done" the substance. But, I would never judge a person if he/she had tried a substance.

I also, do not do drugs or endorse them!!

erei33
Has anyone here tried Salvia Divinorum? It's still legal in most states, and in Canada you can buy it in convenience stores. If you've tried it would you recommend it?
(MoC)
I have never done a drug and I do not recommend you to try it eeven if I didn't....
CompCrasher86
Proud to be clean. Never even had a drop of alcohol. Who needs that stuff anyways??
four!
QUOTE(MasterofComputers @ Jan 27 2008, 07:02 PM) *
I agree, where has society gone to these days. And why the hell do you need drugs anyway. "It releives stress" or "They make me happy" are not good answers. It just shows how insecure and idiotic your ways of solving problems really are. I am not singling people out, just saying what is needing to be said.


Agreed...

I am clean and I have never taken drugs. Ever!

I have seen how it ruins lives first hand.

I'm not okay with recreational use either. I don't see the point.
(MoC)
QUOTE(four! @ Jan 29 2008, 09:06 PM) *
I'm not okay with recreational use either. I don't see the point.


Me either basically. I hate seeing people go to waste because of {censored} like this.
Special-K
I smoke weed nigga! And I drink like a fish. Not a big caffeine guy. I do want to try shrooms, I heard they were really fun.

As for the people that are clean here and are all 'drugs are bad' and whatnot, I do them to expand my mind. I've noticed things when I'm out of it that I never noticed when I was sober. They make you more aware of your surroundings which can make you smarter. Like I'm pretty smart sober, but when I'm gone, I'm so much smart. Cause I notice things more and understand them better.
Kane Adams
I do about $500 to $600 a month of drugs.
All from the Doctor.
ChaosVx
For me it's pretty much , alochol and tobacco . I've tried weed twice but it seems like my organism didn't like
it much ( neither I , liked the effect ) , but it helped me , after that I stopped smoking cigarettes regularly
( when I was high it seemed like something told me to stop with it and I didn't feel for the next days the need
for nicotine so it was pretty easy to stop ) . Now I smoke pipe once a month etc. and drink with friends etc.
( got reeeeaaaalllly drunk sometimes , but I don't think it's worth it due to the after effects ) . I'm not addicted
to any painkillers etc. but sometimes when I'm bad I use a lot of Nisulid ( Nimesulide ) .

I'm not against recreational use of drugs , but I don't approve it as well , don't know ^^

Regards !
Chaos
Special-K
I don't think tobacco should be on this list. It's not really a drug. It doesn't mess with your mind, just your lungs.
gazasaurusu
QUOTE(erei33 @ Jan 28 2008, 01:48 AM) *
Has anyone here tried Salvia Divinorum? It's still legal in most states, and in Canada you can buy it in convenience stores. If you've tried it would you recommend it?


No, pure {censored} horror is all I will say.

and for the record, I find people that are steadfastly against drug use are usually weird, insular and not all that bright, I'm not saying they all are, just the ones I have met in real life.
hecker
QUOTE(gazasaurusu @ Jan 30 2008, 04:08 PM) *
No, pure {censored} horror is all I will say.

and for the record, I find people that are steadfastly against drug use are usually weird, insular and not all that bright, I'm not saying they all are, just the ones I have met in real life.

Either that or they're really young and unexperienced, which is ok. But sooner or later they'll pop their drug cheeries either with alcohol or prozac after their first girlfriend breaks their hearts or the first marriage is over. Aaaaawe! sad.gif

hecker
Special-K
QUOTE(hecker @ Jan 30 2008, 10:45 AM) *
Either that or they're really young and unexperienced, which is ok. But sooner or later they'll pop their drug cheeries either with alcohol or prozac after their first girlfriend breaks their hearts or the first marriage is over. Aaaaawe! sad.gif

hecker

Lmao, how true. That wasn't the way I started but I know a few that went that way.
Berzerker
Everything that is considered a "drug" (yes, weed is a drug) or has "drug-like qualities" (alcohol included) causes SOME KIND of damage to your body and should not be ingested unless absolutely necessary (weed for medical use).

Never did anything or thought about doing anything for my entire life.
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