I've ripped apart Cider from the newest Gametap that was released on the 5th of December.
I've compiled a small list of the versions of Cider which I got from the version.txt under the Frameworks directory.

X3? - 000379
Battlefield 2124 - 000485
Myst Online - 000636
Heroes of Might and Magic V 1.5.1 - 000789
Old Gametap/Oblivion.app - 000823
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 Updated (000947)
New Gametap (5th of December) - 000983
Eve Online - 000993.45017

I've gotten Oblivion to work just fun under the 000983 version of Cider. I don't have any other games to test out yet but this version works perfectly.
I'm going to try Unreal Tournament 3 soon.

Oblivion/Gametap (000983)

So take this version and try it out on all of the games that gave you trouble with graphics or the mouse and post your updates/info.
We need to get a wiki going so it doesn't get cluttered and what not.

Hmm... Not working for me. I copied over the Oblivion files to C:\Games\Oblivion, but when I launch the game, it shows up in the dock, then disappears.

Is there something else I need to do?

yeah, you need to put the oblivion.ini file from this thread in the [HD]/Library/Oblivion Preferences/p_drive/My Documents/My Games/Oblivion

Still didn't work... Does the same thing.

I am using the original Oblivion install DVD patched to 1.2, is that a problem? Maybe I need to install Shivering Isles?

Hmmm, this is really weird. I tried this a bunch of times on mine before I zipped it up and it does work. I should update my signature so you can see that I have an actual MBP. What kind of computer are you running?

As long as the game is in Oblivion.app/Contents/Resources/transgaming/c_drive/Games/Oblivion

I do have Shivering Isle installed and the newest updates. Let me know what kind of computer you have and I'll see if it's the computer or the game.

Mac Pro, 2ghz, 2GB RAM, Radeon X1900, Mac OS 10.4.10

Hmm do you have instant messengers or anything?

is it possible to use cider for getting normal windows apps working, and not just games? i'm not having any luck getting this to start up ventrilo even after changing the plist.

I don't have the expansions installed, and I can't get it working fully.

I can't get it working atall from your gametap cider, but when i rip apart the one used for hitman contracts, that one enables me to load all the way into the game, its just not displaying anything 3D, i get all the graphical side, cursor, compass hud, just blue where it should be rending the screen.

Will get the expansions and try your one.

I just tried downloading and setting it up myself and it works perfectly. The only thing I can see going wrong with Oblivion so far is that I have it setup for my laptop. I didn't think to change the screen size in the Oblivion.ini for a standard screen size. So try changing these two settings and see how it works. I have noticed that if the Oblivion.ini has some arguments that Cider doesn't like it just bounces in the dock and then crashes, so you have to try a bunch of different little things to get it to work. I don't mind helping anyone out trying to get it to work so feel free to reply to this thread or by PM. I'll try setting up a separate AIM name as I don't like giving out my personal one.
Also, you could try changing some of the arguments in [HD]/Library/Preferences/Oblivion Preferences/Config file. These arguments might be causing you trouble since I tried messing with these and it just bounced and then crashed. It could be possible it's crashing because of your video card. I remember reading that the ATI cards had trouble with Cedega/Cider because they couldn't support some shaders or something. I'll see what I can find again and let you know.

I'll look into this and see what I can/can't do with them. Also try deleting everything under [x11drv] as that could also be a problem. I'm new to all of this so I'm not too sure what it can be. It took me a good 4-5 hours trying a bunch of different combinations before I found the perfect setup for my MBP.

Also, check out User.reg and fiddle with these settings


The "pbuffer" can be changed to "fbo" but then you might need to change the Config file


Sorry, I have 3 finals and 2 papers due tomorrow and I'm more worried about this than my finals (even though they are easy).

after downloading from the sendspace link in the version.plist it says 823.

you sure you uploaded the newest one, cantstandable?

Woops, I forgot to change the Version.plist to say 983. That Version.plist was from the previous Gametap and I didn't think to update that. I got the version number from the Version.txt in the Frameworks directory. I'm going to fix that and reupload it just to clear any confusion in the future.

Hey well ive tried and i cant seem to get it to start with a crack or i try without a crack and it tells me that it cant find a cd/dvd drive
any ideas???

Well I'm using the newest version of Shivering Isles with the No-CD patch I found on GCW. I'm also using an actual MBP and not a hackintosh. What are you hardware specs?

Feel free to AIM me at InsanelyGameHelp and I'll see what I can do. I can't promise a whole lot of support today but every break I get today Ill def. do some research.

I now have it working, all I had to do was change the resolution to 1280x960 in the Oblivion.ini

Oh yeah, one thing I noticed is that the graphics seem to be set very low, so I was wondering if you set it up that way or if it has something to do with my ATI card and the shader issues.

Awesome. I'm glad you got it working. Let me know how it works and if there are any problems. Feel free to post anything dealing with Oblivion in this forum.

I actually found the Oblivion.ini file floating around here and figured since it worked so well I should just tweaked it from there. I'm actually going to spend some time after finals getting a better Oblivion.ini to have all of the high quality graphics and shaders going. Mine looks pretty good but not as good as it should be. I have another Oblivion.ini and it looks fantastic but has a TON of graphic anomalies, which I can't describe but seems like it displays a bunch of long lines that extend from his hand down to the corner of the screen. Other than that problem it looked fantastic. I'll see what I can do soon. Enjoy!

"I'm going to try Unreal Tournament 3 soon."

interested in this too btw =)

I've tried messing with it for a little bit but it would just bounce then quit. I've found some extra info about it but it looks pretty bad. They are coming out with a linux client and Macworld says that UT3 is coming out with a native Apple client. So I'll keep working on it and hopefully get somewhere as some people have got it working under Wine. I just can't figure out what version of Wine Cider is using.

Anyone have any other Games/Apps that uses Cider?

Have you tried to run Morrowind or Arx Fatalis?

Not yet, I'm going to be trying Crysis, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 and Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. I'll probably look into a few other games like Unreal Tournament 3 but they are coming out with a native port, so I'm not too worried about that one.

I tried Arx Fatalis, but it says something about game files being missing... I think it needs the registry entries, but I don't know how to import them to Cider.

You have to copy the keys manually from either CrossOver user.reg/system.reg in the ~/Library/Application Support/CrossOver/Bottles/??? folder and copy them into the user.reg/system.reg file in the Preferences folder of Arx Fatalis. It's quite annoying. Just don't copy and replace the files as I've found it will just crash Cider.

in far cry (demo), cursor keeps moving toward to top left of the screen whenever i move the mouse any ideas?

Yea i figured it out turn your screen res to highest and if that doesnt work alone turn the mouse sesantivity up all the way this is for the far cry demo btw

thanks
did you need to do anything else to make it work well? or other tips in general

also what version was windows? winxp or win2000?

i used winxp

set driver to opengl, and it allows me to run it in a window now properly, works great.

but, for some reason there is HUGE mouse lag now, i move my mouse in one direction, the pointer follows it. feels more like a joystick than a mouse now ((

why do i have to push it around like that

Hmmmm i dont know ill look into it see what i can find out for you what version of cider are you using

gametap 983

do you have mouse problems in opengl?

I had about 20 minutes of relaxation today and I tried out Far Cry 1.40 under the 983 version of Cider. I get an awesome mouse response under CrossOver 6.2.0 and no menus but semi crappy mouse response under Cider (983). I'm going to try it out tonight when I get home from my last final. As Cider would be much better than using CrossOver. I have an idea on what it could be.

I will also be testing out a bunch of games really soon. Because now I have all the free time until late January.

^

exactly. mouse/cursor worked great under crossover, but no menus, and crappy (as expected) framerate.

would run fantastic with cider but just have mouse issues

Well, I get it working a little better then it gets worse. It seems to be the X axis and not the Y axis that gets all messed up. I'm going to have to figure this out. I got the EVE Online version of Cider loading Far Cry but it just sits there at the black screen. So I'm going to try a bunch of different version of Cider. Oh man this is just TOO much fun..... But tonight is my relax and party night. So tomorrow will be my full force testing every game I can. There is hope but it's going to be a long haul.

also while you're testing i suggest you set graphics it to lowest settings just to be sure.

it didn't load for me originally with all settings high.

I've been trying a bunch of games and here what I have so far.

Unreal Tournament 3 - I've tried for a little bit but I'm not too worried as they are making a native apple port

Grand Theft Auto San Adreas - Works perfectly. There was a mouse problem in the start of the menu but it works perfectly during the game. Might have an idea why.

Far Cry - I've actually had good results with this. I've had various results with 983 like the mouse working and not working and using Direct3D9 the loading doesn't work at all. OpenGL works just fine but can't get a true fullscreen. Using a older version of Cider the mouse works perfect and using OpenGL fullscreen works. So I'm going to figure out what to do.

Crysis - CrossOver won't install this game but I installed WINE 0.9.50. using the darwinports and I'm hoping that it will work that way. It's saying there are Game DLL files missing and I don't want to figure out which ones, so hopefully this way is easier.

I am kinda new to cider stuff, i managed to get Everquest I running under cider, the BIG Problem is that there are NO FONTS/NO Text in the game, i managed to login blind, gfx is very smooth, mouse is smooth and just like under windows.

I tried to get Fonts working via registry and tried different approached of giving the path in the registry to the fonts

The "nice" thing in everquest is is, you can go into Options Menue and select a Font to use, there is NO FONT at all shown, so the problem really seems to be, that everquest cant "see" any of the fonts in windows/fonts (copied alot of fonts in there)

would be really really great if anyone knew a trick how i get the Fonts problem fixed

Hi there! Could anyone post a detailed step-by-step instructions how I can port Battlefield 2 to Mac OS using Cider?

I have downloaded the newest version of Gametap, copied my whole BF2 directory into Resources/Transgaming/c_drive, modified Gametap's plist so that it points to the /bf2 directory and the bf2.exe. I also exported my whole Windows XP registry using regedit and used it to replace Gametap's system.reg in /HD/Library/Preferences/Gametap Preferences.

When I now try to start Gametap/BF2, the icon jumps in the Dock, it pops up a black screen and then it crashes.

Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

Hi, I have GTA SA ciderized by someone that I took from thepiratebay. Do you know how can I update the cider of this GTA SA.app to this new version that works with mouse?

I copied "Frameworks" and "MacOS" folders from this Oblivion.app and corrected the Version.plist, but now Gta icon justs blinks on the dock and close..

How did you got GTA SA working?

Thanks

What about Pro Evolution Soccer 08?

I tried Morrowind without success. I tried to manually copy the registration keys, the icon just bounces on the dock and disappears.

I got Morrowind working nicely under Parallels. It uses a launcher app to set some basic settings.

Hi!! new here.. THANXS to upload this new version of cider. Now, Outrun 2006 Coast to Coast run perfect!! )

THANXS!!

The latest wine version 0.9.56 compiles on OS X and works well.

No OpenGL, so don't ask.
Wish these linking issues could be worked out as apparently CoD4 runs under latest Wine pretty good. (Yes, I know about the Mac native version coming, but you never know, where's UT3?)

anyone got apps not games to work with Cider? tried for a while to get Ventrilo ported (need it ported so i can use the GSM codec). i got no errors but the cider icon bounced once, hung open, then closed with a normal OSX error message thing. help?

and WINE didnt work well with it either, said there was still a GSM error even tho i placed the codec in the system folder and edited the .ini

Yep, works fine under Parallels.

Performance's not bad though but it's kinda sad that Oblivion on cider runs better than Morrowind on Parallels.

Anhaedra asked me this, thought I'd post here in case anyone else needs this:



It's been a while now.

Try turning *off* support for DX9 shaders in Parallels VM.

I used the FPS Optimizer to set resolution to 1440x900, and a few other options. It really helped.:
http://www.mwmythicmods.com/MWE.htm#fpsopt_20

You can try using Morrowind Graphic Extender to change resolution and improve details, but I never used this.:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...etail&id=45
(might need DX9 back on for that).

Read this, and get some of the "essential" mods:
http://www.stevemv.com/other/enhancements/...wind/index.html

I loved Better Bodies, Better Heads, some of the official plug ins, and *absolutely* Galsiah's Character Development, which overhauls the levelling process to something I find much nicer:
http://uk.geocities.com/galsiah/

There's a ton of great mods out there too that add nicely to the game without altering the balance too much.

Cider is ONLY for games that do not display anything in Windows. It doesn't handle games that open a window, or especially applications.

Try Crossover, or Parallels/VMWare Fusion in Convergence mode.

Well Morrowind runs now, but it's running very slowly... About 1fps. Did the same thing happen for anyone else?

I got decent performance, but I had to turn down many of the options. Try the FPS optimizer too.

I got Oblivion to run via the cider trick... Thanks for the help. The graphics where lacking though. Totally washed out and I messed around in oblivion.ini and the config file to try to get the "pretty" graphics, but no go. It looks totally better via BootCamp... just trying to get away from booting windows as much as I can...

If anyone has a working oblivion.ini and config files that has good settings I would be real appreciative for a hook-up

I tried all the tips and tricks and the step by step someone else posted, but I can't even get it to run. All I get is "CD-ROM Drive Not Found, Unable to find a CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive on this computer." I even tried editing the config file to have D = /Volumes/Oblivion with the disc in the drive.

I'm having the same difficulty. Things seem to be fine, yet I get a message "CD-ROM Drive Not Found, Unable to find a CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive on this computer." when I attempt to run Oblivion.app. I'm using Oblivion 1.1.511 with a No-CD crack, tested to work fine under Windows. Should I update to 1.2?
Thank you.