I tried this trick from a posting on Macintouch.com
MacInTouch Reader] The XBench scores are not directly comparable. The PPC binary portion of XBench 1.2 was compiled against 10.4, while the Intel binary portion of XBench 1.2 was compiled on 10.4. This means that the Intel code is running into the coalesced update limitations.
You can perform an "even" test between the PPC and Intel systems by disabling Coalesced Updates on the Intel iMac before running Xbench. Open "/Developer/Applications/Performance Tools/Quartz Debug.app", choose "Tools -> Show Beam Sync Tools" and choose "Disable Beam Synchronization". (You can do this on the PPC mac, but I don't expect it to make a difference).
My score went up from 60 to 88! Not sure what it does though.
Celeond D 2.68 O/C to 3.79.
Full Version: WOW - Xbench
Didn't do squat for me.
Mine went to 102 from 73 but does it matter?
I guess you pobably need QE to make a difference and it just show how useless Xbench is.
Did nothing for me too, my score was the same but I don't have QE so it must be just for those that have QE.
LOL. Now I have 202 score on User Interface Elements which scored bad all the times 
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A side effects is that I don't have artifacts anymore. Good.
8f1111a * ATI X600 here
)A side effects is that I don't have artifacts anymore. Good.
8f1111a * ATI X600 here
Turning that option off actually disables QE and/or CI .
My bad, I think I posted the same quote on win2osx but never posted here..
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2005/tn2133.html
It has something to do with our limited screen refresh rates (60hz)
.My bad, I think I posted the same quote on win2osx but never posted here..
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2005/tn2133.html
QUOTE
Coalesced Updates
Mac OS X 10.4 introduces a new behavior of coalescing updates that enables Quartz to more efficiently update the frame buffer during each display refresh. In addition to increasing system efficiency, Coalescing updates improved visual consistency and eliminates "tearing" during scrolling and animation. To coalesce updates, the Quartz window server composites all window buffers into a single offscreen frame buffer before flushing it to the screen. When your application issues a flush command, the system doesn't actually flush that content until the next available display refresh. This allows all updates for multiple applications to happen at the same time. Window server operations (window resize or move, for example) are handled in the same manner—coalesced into a system-wide screen update.
Mac OS X 10.4 introduces a new behavior of coalescing updates that enables Quartz to more efficiently update the frame buffer during each display refresh. In addition to increasing system efficiency, Coalescing updates improved visual consistency and eliminates "tearing" during scrolling and animation. To coalesce updates, the Quartz window server composites all window buffers into a single offscreen frame buffer before flushing it to the screen. When your application issues a flush command, the system doesn't actually flush that content until the next available display refresh. This allows all updates for multiple applications to happen at the same time. Window server operations (window resize or move, for example) are handled in the same manner—coalesced into a system-wide screen update.
It has something to do with our limited screen refresh rates (60hz)
QUOTE(domino @ Jan 20 2006, 03:07 PM) 
Turning that option off actually disables QE and/or CI .
My bad, I think I posted the same quote on win2osx but never posted here..
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2005/tn2133.html
It has something to do with our limited screen refresh rates (60hz)
.My bad, I think I posted the same quote on win2osx but never posted here..
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2005/tn2133.html
It has something to do with our limited screen refresh rates (60hz)
It's apparently broken and Apple hasn't fixed it (Maybe in 10.4.4). Anyways, you can make it permanent by setting the deferredUpdates value to 0 in the /Library/System/Preferences/com.apple.windowsweevwe.plist file. It's under Compositor.
Thanks scousi! Towards the bottom of the article can show you how to disable Coalesced Updates also.
QUOTE(scousi @ Jan 20 2006, 04:14 PM)
It's apparently broken and Apple hasn't fixed it (Maybe in 10.4.4). Anyways, you can make it permanent by setting the deferredUpdates value to 0 in the /Library/System/Preferences/com.apple.windowsweevwe.plist file. It's under Compositor.
Mus have been blind!
It's
/Library/System/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist
QUOTE(scousi @ Jan 21 2006, 06:31 AM)
Mus have been blind!
It's
/Library/System/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist
It's
/Library/System/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist
Mate, it's /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist
QUOTE(scousi @ Jan 20 2006, 03:38 PM)
The PPC binary portion of XBench 1.2 was compiled against 10.4, while the Intel binary portion of XBench 1.2 was compiled on 10.4.
Umm... what?
My Xbench went from 80.5 -> 104.63 by disabling Beam Sync. I got almost another point by enabling QE 2D:
CODE
Results 105.59
System Info
Xbench Version 1.2
System Version 10.4.3 (8F1111g)
Physical RAM 4096 MB
Model ADP2,1
Drive Type WDC WD360GD-00FLC0
CPU Test 61.68
GCD Loop 85.40 4.50 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 72.63 1.73 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 44.48 1.47 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 59.20 10.31 Mops/sec
Thread Test 153.82
Computation 143.90 2.92 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 165.21 7.11 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 122.77
System 106.15
Allocate 76.92 282.47 Kalloc/sec
Fill 127.25 6187.02 MB/sec
Copy 135.08 2790.01 MB/sec
Stream 145.57
Copy 141.48 2922.16 MB/sec
Scale 139.91 2890.44 MB/sec
Add 151.51 3227.53 MB/sec
Triad 150.12 3211.36 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 95.70
Line 101.88 6.78 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 94.04 28.08 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 94.27 7.68 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 99.35 2.51 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 89.89 5.62 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 181.17
Spinning Squares 181.17 229.83 frames/sec
User Interface Test 181.12
Elements 181.12 831.23 refresh/sec
Disk Test 71.72
Sequential 108.04
Uncached Write 90.88 55.80 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 113.47 64.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 110.66 32.39 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 122.39 61.51 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 53.68
Uncached Write 19.14 2.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 123.13 39.42 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 122.12 0.87 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 167.71 31.12 MB/sec [256K blocks]
System Info
Xbench Version 1.2
System Version 10.4.3 (8F1111g)
Physical RAM 4096 MB
Model ADP2,1
Drive Type WDC WD360GD-00FLC0
CPU Test 61.68
GCD Loop 85.40 4.50 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 72.63 1.73 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 44.48 1.47 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 59.20 10.31 Mops/sec
Thread Test 153.82
Computation 143.90 2.92 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 165.21 7.11 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 122.77
System 106.15
Allocate 76.92 282.47 Kalloc/sec
Fill 127.25 6187.02 MB/sec
Copy 135.08 2790.01 MB/sec
Stream 145.57
Copy 141.48 2922.16 MB/sec
Scale 139.91 2890.44 MB/sec
Add 151.51 3227.53 MB/sec
Triad 150.12 3211.36 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 95.70
Line 101.88 6.78 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 94.04 28.08 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 94.27 7.68 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 99.35 2.51 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 89.89 5.62 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 181.17
Spinning Squares 181.17 229.83 frames/sec
User Interface Test 181.12
Elements 181.12 831.23 refresh/sec
Disk Test 71.72
Sequential 108.04
Uncached Write 90.88 55.80 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 113.47 64.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 110.66 32.39 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 122.39 61.51 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 53.68
Uncached Write 19.14 2.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 123.13 39.42 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 122.12 0.87 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 167.71 31.12 MB/sec [256K blocks]
bench global result went from 38 to 50 disabling beam sync here too....
DS
CODE
Results 50.78
System Info
Xbench Version 1.2
System Version 10.4.3 (8F1111g)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model ADP2,1
Drive Type Maxtor 6Y080L0
CPU Test 50.19
GCD Loop 81.09 4.27 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 56.74 1.35 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 32.85 1.08 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 51.80 9.02 Mops/sec
Thread Test 57.07
Computation 42.42 859.40 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 87.18 3.75 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 40.27
System 37.23
Allocate 39.64 145.56 Kalloc/sec
Fill 39.72 1931.32 MB/sec
Copy 33.13 684.29 MB/sec
Stream 43.87
Copy 41.69 861.16 MB/sec
Scale 41.51 857.68 MB/sec
Add 46.40 988.34 MB/sec
Triad 46.39 992.35 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 89.30
Line 65.08 4.33 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 82.03 24.49 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 80.85 6.59 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 77.33 1.95 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 318.70 19.94 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 28.99
Spinning Squares 28.99 36.78 frames/sec
User Interface Test 71.55
Elements 71.55 328.38 refresh/sec
Disk Test 62.89
Sequential 94.60
Uncached Write 92.88 57.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 97.18 54.98 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 82.66 24.19 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 109.52 55.05 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 47.10
Uncached Write 18.32 1.94 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 92.33 29.56 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 85.31 0.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 128.30 23.81 MB/sec [256K blocks]
System Info
Xbench Version 1.2
System Version 10.4.3 (8F1111g)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model ADP2,1
Drive Type Maxtor 6Y080L0
CPU Test 50.19
GCD Loop 81.09 4.27 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 56.74 1.35 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 32.85 1.08 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 51.80 9.02 Mops/sec
Thread Test 57.07
Computation 42.42 859.40 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 87.18 3.75 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 40.27
System 37.23
Allocate 39.64 145.56 Kalloc/sec
Fill 39.72 1931.32 MB/sec
Copy 33.13 684.29 MB/sec
Stream 43.87
Copy 41.69 861.16 MB/sec
Scale 41.51 857.68 MB/sec
Add 46.40 988.34 MB/sec
Triad 46.39 992.35 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 89.30
Line 65.08 4.33 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 82.03 24.49 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 80.85 6.59 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 77.33 1.95 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 318.70 19.94 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 28.99
Spinning Squares 28.99 36.78 frames/sec
User Interface Test 71.55
Elements 71.55 328.38 refresh/sec
Disk Test 62.89
Sequential 94.60
Uncached Write 92.88 57.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 97.18 54.98 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 82.66 24.19 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 109.52 55.05 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 47.10
Uncached Write 18.32 1.94 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 92.33 29.56 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 85.31 0.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 128.30 23.81 MB/sec [256K blocks]
DS
Where is the /Developer/ folder?
QUOTE(skyliner34 @ Jan 25 2006, 06:44 PM)
Where is the /Developer/ folder?
You have to install the Xcode package on the DVD.
Ok thanks. Is Xcode included on the 10.4.3 8F1111 DVD?
Yes, it's the Xcode tools directory.
So, does anybody know how to set OS X to disable Beam Synchronization on boot?
I assume there is some plist (like that to enable Quartz Extreme 2d) that needs to be edited but I do not know (and I already looked in /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist).
Do we need a special thread for this tangent?
EDIT 3: Nevermind, I just found it:
This also works:
http://www.macosxhints.com/comment.php?mod...rder=&pid=58254
NOTE: After rebooting, relaunching Quartz Debug will re-enable Beam Sych. So to verify that Beam Sync. is actually disabled, open com.apple.windowserver.plist with /Developer/Application/Utitlies/Property List Editor.app and look for Root->Compositor->deferredUpdates to be set to 0.
One more thing, this Beam Sync. speed trick may only work on LCD displays.
I assume there is some plist (like that to enable Quartz Extreme 2d) that needs to be edited but I do not know (and I already looked in /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist).
Do we need a special thread for this tangent?
EDIT 3: Nevermind, I just found it:
QUOTE
Force Quit the Quartz Debug application (you need to force quit to make the changes "stick;" regular quitting will re-enable Beam Sync upon quitting)
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?sto...050518113854620
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?sto...050518113854620
This also works:
CODE
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver Compositor -dict deferredUpdates 0
http://www.macosxhints.com/comment.php?mod...rder=&pid=58254
NOTE: After rebooting, relaunching Quartz Debug will re-enable Beam Sych. So to verify that Beam Sync. is actually disabled, open com.apple.windowserver.plist with /Developer/Application/Utitlies/Property List Editor.app and look for Root->Compositor->deferredUpdates to be set to 0.
One more thing, this Beam Sync. speed trick may only work on LCD displays.
i don't have this file:
com.apple.windowserver.plist
anywhere on my hard-drive. is it created when a driver kext is loaded?
com.apple.windowserver.plist
anywhere on my hard-drive. is it created when a driver kext is loaded?
QUOTE(xiberia @ Jan 29 2006, 11:02 AM)
i don't have this file:
com.apple.windowserver.plist
anywhere on my hard-drive. is it created when a driver kext is loaded?
On the install DVD durring install, it has a button that says "custom" or something like that at the bottom on the last step before you click install. But you can still do it from the dvd, i think, open on desktop, find the folder that says packages if not in there maybe in some exrtras folder or something, then just click it and it will start the install.com.apple.windowserver.plist
anywhere on my hard-drive. is it created when a driver kext is loaded?
I'll have to try this trick I ran xbench two times the first was low like fifty something, the second time though it was 79 and the only thing that had changed was I had reinstalled it onto a maxtor 100 mb sata drive where before it was on a very old maxtor pata... that and itunes had expired so I had dropped it the trash can.
Open terminal and copy/past :
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver Compositor -dict deferredUpdates 0
type your password and ok
repair permission, reboot
it's permanent.
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver Compositor -dict deferredUpdates 0
type your password and ok
repair permission, reboot
it's permanent.
I went to the .plist file to enable quartz 2d extreme and this is what it shows:
bplist00Ó _Quartz2DExtremeEnabled[DisplaySets_CGSInterocitorSelectMode¡¡ß ! "$% &' ( (% *+, -'_UnmirroredOriginX_RefreshRate16.16XMirrorIDYDisplayID_StereoBlueLineS
ncVActive_UnmirroredWidthTUnitWIOFlags_UnmirroredHeightXMirrored_DisplaySe
ialNumberTModeWOriginX^UnmirroredModeUWidthXIsStereoWOriginYUDepth_DisplayProd
ctID_IODisplayLocation_UnmirroredOriginY_DisplayVendorIDVHeight<^€%_†IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/P0P1@1/IOPCI2PCIBridge/display@0/OMNI,CALLISTO/CallistoFB/display0/AppleDisplayunkn(4OPRT‡›®·ÁÖÝïôü.3;JPYagzŽ¢´»½ÂÇÈÊÍÐ
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... I don't see anywhere to set a value to "yes" (I do appologize if its right in front of my face... i'm still a relative noob at this stuff)
thanks a million.
bplist00Ó _Quartz2DExtremeEnabled[DisplaySets_CGSInterocitorSelectMode¡¡ß ! "$% &' ( (% *+, -'_UnmirroredOriginX_RefreshRate16.16XMirrorIDYDisplayID_StereoBlueLineS
ncVActive_UnmirroredWidthTUnitWIOFlags_UnmirroredHeightXMirrored_DisplaySe
ialNumberTModeWOriginX^UnmirroredModeUWidthXIsStereoWOriginYUDepth_DisplayProd
ctID_IODisplayLocation_UnmirroredOriginY_DisplayVendorIDVHeight<^€%_†IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/P0P1@1/IOPCI2PCIBridge/display@0/OMNI,CALLISTO/CallistoFB/display0/AppleDisplayunkn(4OPRT‡›®·ÁÖÝïôü.3;JPYagzŽ¢´»½ÂÇÈÊÍÐ
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... I don't see anywhere to set a value to "yes" (I do appologize if its right in front of my face... i'm still a relative noob at this stuff)
thanks a million.
I see that sme thing, can anyone help?
It's just in Binary Mode Format.
There you go.
QUOTE("macgirl")
From binary to text (XML):
plutil -convert xml1 some_file.plist
From text or XML to binary:
plutil -convert binary1 some_other_file.plist
plutil -convert xml1 some_file.plist
From text or XML to binary:
plutil -convert binary1 some_other_file.plist
There you go.
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