Yeah, as many of you don't know i am a UK punk, i don't have a mohwak i just wear leather jackets, normal jeans, yellow shoes and Johhny-Rotten style spiky hair!

Anyway It came to me yesterday that "The Clash" my favourite band never did a re-union tour!! WTF they should have!!

And the Sex Pistols (who i love aswell) did too many!!

Don't know about sham69

The CLASH? punk??? I consider the Clash as pop, nothing like gbh or sex pistols, too commercial imo.

Great to know there are more punks around! Anarchy!

actually they were kinda more whiteboy dub/pop-punk type ...stuff.

crap, regardless.

nev6: WTF is up with you mate, clash are amazing and they're not crap. I think youre crap so F You

Not a big fan of the Clash. As for if they're punk, some songs. But if we're going by the realistic definition, then they weren't punk at all. Far too commercial.

you just upped the punk, watch out.

meh, I'm done. I don't need to justify my judgement, but I could. Really. Trust me. Serious. ly.

There were a few reasons The Clash never did a reunion tour.
1) Contract reasons.
2) Joe Strummer vs. Mick Jones
3) Topper being deported from the states for murdering someone
4) Joe Strummer is dead....


As for the notion that The Clash are not punk....
The early beginnings of Punk were not about 3 chords and snare drums. The Clash freely explored alternative, pop, the beginnings of punk, and reggae/dub. Many of the first "Punk" bands were not "Punk" by todays standards at all.

Good example: Blondie. Never in a million years would you consider them a "Punk" band by todays standards. But back in the mid '70s, when they and The Clash, Television, The Ramones, and The Sex Pistols all started throwing their own styles around.....It was pretty different for everyone. I mean....we're talking about the same time period as Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon...

I don't care whether they were punk or not..they made great music

Exactly...why do they have to have a genre label attatched to them?

Labeling is a natural human condition, therefore I label.

Punk is supposed to be all about non-commercialization. It was the whole idea of anti-record label, anti-merch, all that crap. So if we're gonna be debating anything, we should use what the original premise was.

im an old school punk dating back to the first sex pistols record. b4 the sex pistols [and the ramones in america] was DISCO. i remember it well. As soon as i heard the sex pistols
sound , i had to get their record and i listened to it over and over and over. same with the
the clash, the dead kennedys and many more. they were so radical for their day. im not sure punk was even meant to be "non-commericial, anti-record label." I think its "original premise"
[not my phrase] was a do-it yourself, think for yourself, make your own music, dress like an individual, dont be afraid to stand out in a crowd, dont be afraid to be a trail blazer not a follower. To be "non-commercial anti=record label"
in the music world in those days was equal to being anti-success. the sex pistols and the clash, ramones, souixsie sue [spelling?], iggy pop , etc, never were anti-success.
I just love green day - one of the best of the modern punk bands - those
who say they arent punk dont understand. Punk was never about doing like
or sounding like Sid or iggy did 20 years ago.
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end of rant. My fave punk videos- DL if u can!
1.Green Day - American Idiot
2. Muse - Stockholm syndrome

No, I don't think so. Punk originally was about carving out a style of music that had no limits/boundries.

Lots of the "Original" punk bands spawned the first waves of Alternative and New Wave, as well as punk as we know it today.

There was only one sex pistols CD....




The sex pistols actually never wanted to be successful. Hence why they never made any shirts or any kind of merch for that reason. They just wanted to create an alternate music. All the others ones, well I'm sure they weren't completely anti-success, but tried to look that way due to the whole rebellion look.

And I completely agree that Punk spawned Alternative and New Wave. Punk and Glam Rock spawned what we have today. I don't mean 80s Glam Rock, cause that was Hair Metal. Glam Rock was mainly in the 70s. Like Alice Cooper for example. He's Glam Rock, or Shock Rock, whatever you wish to call it. But yea, I agree with what your saying Ayan.

I don't understand some of the replies here.

Saying that punk was about DIY, but not anti-(major)record label is kind of contradictory, is it not?

I've always identified more with bands like DK, Crass, MC5, etc ... kinda philosophy towards punk. Pretty anti-commercialization, or anti... art-compromisation at least? (maybe a word:P)
and since commercialization and major labels kinda hinder your artistry/message (since you're producing a product taking outside opinion into consideration, rather that just making it to say something, or have fun, or whatever...)


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