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munky
http://www.osxbook.com/book/bonus/chapter10/tpm/

For anyone who still beleives this myth.
lord_muad_dib
old news, but is good to be remembered
Kiko
Its news to most users on this forum who claim that os x wont work because of tpm, and that the kernel is hacked to remove tpm support and other rubbish like that. Thanks munky, maybe you could sticky it in the osx86/ homebrew section?
U.C.
What!!!

You fakers, Maxxus, Semthex and all of you claiming to have hacked the kernel and what not.



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Not Really. I had read this before, while doing research, but I didnot really believe it.
Kiko
Its true, the only thing needed to hack a kernel for a core 2 duo system is remove efi (about 1 or 2 nops) and hardcode the fsb (another 1 or 2 nops)
Cyman
Maybe the final version will feature TPM. I still believe that Apple has a surprise for all the OSX86 users. If I am right, we'll see how long it takes until hackers can bypass Apple's measures to prevent Leopard from installing on non-Apple hardware...
Kiko
no it wont, the newer macs have no tpm chip. tiger hasnt used it ever. leopard has never used it. And never will
Hagar
so what were the issues with appletpmacpi.kext in 10.4.1 all about, then?
Kiko
it checked to see if the hardware was there iirc, considering 10.4.1 was only intended for the DTK machines, and considering it was just a standard 915 board, apple had to introduce at least some checks, but no cryptography was being done through the TPM chip, just a check (i may be wrong, as i havent had much hands on with 10.4.1) Also, 10.4.1 was internal Beta, whereas the later builds 10.4.4 etc were released into the public with real macs
Dr. Hurt
Then what is the function of decrypts, rXdX and all that stuff?
munky
OSX binaries are encrypted, but not using the TPM.
frizbot
Supposedly there may be this to contend with as well-
http://www.macrumors.com/2007/12/20/apple-...ghting-patents/

"The other filing, patent application #20070288886, deals with attempts to fight software piracy.

A digital rights management system permits an application owner to cause code to be injected into the application's run-time instruction stream so as to restrict execution of that application to specific hardware platforms. In a first phase, an authorizing entity (e.g., an application owner or platform manufacturer) authorizes one or more applications to execute on a given hardware platform. Later, during application run-time, code is injected that performs periodic checks are made to determine if the application continues to run on the previously authorized hardware platform. If a periodic check fails, at least part of the application's execution string is terminated--effectively rendering the application non-usable. The periodic check is transparent to the user and difficult to circumvent.
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Their link doesn't work for me.
rossby
QUOTE(munky @ Oct 8 2007, 10:33 AM) *
http://www.osxbook.com/book/bonus/chapter10/tpm/

For anyone who still beleives this myth.


Did OS X use the TPM at one time to prevent the OS from loading?
Hagar
I believe the original intel developer transition kit that ran 10.4.1 - 10.4.3 (before the launch of the real intel macs) checked for the presence of a TPM.
hecker
I actually didn't know this for sure. But it's nice. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. smile.gif
bofors
QUOTE(Hagar @ Nov 18 2008, 12:50 PM) *
I believe the original intel developer transition kit that ran 10.4.1 - 10.4.3 (before the launch of the real intel macs) checked for the presence of a TPM.


This is what I remember as well.
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