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ResX
Lately, this topic has come up at school, and considering today is the 10th, i might as well ask what my fellow InsaelyMac users think.

Do you think the U.S. governmant should make September 11th a memorial day (even if you dont live here)?
Ayanami
No, I don't think so.
I've heard enough about 9/11. All the conspiracies, and all the crap about the war in Iraq and the continuing lack of any way out and the lack of anything going in in Afghanistan, and I don't want another reminder of it. Remembering the day is perfectly acceptable, but a day off for it? Out of reason.
Numberzz
well, i think they should, whether the government or 18(or 19) arabs with razor blades did it. a lot of people died that day sad.gif
OryHara
QUOTE(ResX @ Sep 10 2007, 07:16 PM) *
Lately, this topic has come up at school, and considering today is the 10th, i might as well ask what my fellow InsaelyMac users think.

Do you think the U.S. governmant should make September 11th a memorial day (even if you dont live here)?


Any sicko bastard that spends my tax dollars on a memorial for something that their little elitist friends pulled on in the first place will get a letter saying they won't be getting my income tax anymore.

If you or anyone else wants a memorial, use your own money, don't use mine commie.
Dainix
No. Last time I checked, the attack on Pearl Harbor isn't a holiday. This is no different.
killbot1000
Thousands of people around the world die every day for the stupidest reasons, this is no different....sorry....
Paranoid Marvin
I think it's a good idea - lots of people died that day.

While we are at it, we should have a memorial for every time lots of people die.
So we need a memorial day for the flooding in Bangladesh, the Darfur crisis, Harold Shipman's victims and the Hiroshima bombings.

erei33
QUOTE(OryHara @ Sep 11 2007, 12:41 AM) *
If you or anyone else wants a memorial, use your own money, don't use mine commie.

Bingo. A 9/11 Memorial Day would be a waste of tax dollars. I really wish you could choose where your taxes go to. For me the voucher would like this:
[To pay for]
Education
Police/Fire/Rescue
Large Military (For defensive purposes *only*)
Infrastructure maintenance.
[Not to pay for]
Everything else.

I am so sick of how wasted my tax dollars are. I don't care that Cindy in NYC has 3 kids, is pregnant with another, and is broke. It's not my fault that shes broke. I shouldn't have to pay for her meals.
Iraq is probably the biggest waste of tax money ever. I don't care if Iraqis are oppressed. At least Saddam kept those barbarians (radical shi'ites and sunnis) in check.
ResX
QUOTE(numberz @ Sep 10 2007, 08:27 PM) *
well, i think they should, whether the government or 18(or 19) arabs with razor blades did it. a lot of people died that day sad.gif

Yeah but then making it a holiday would be kinda like a celebration, not to mention the cost...

QUOTE(OryHara @ Sep 11 2007, 12:41 AM) *
Any sicko bastard that spends my tax dollars on a memorial for something that their little elitist friends pulled on in the first place will get a letter saying they won't be getting my income tax anymore.

If you or anyone else wants a memorial, use your own money, don't use mine commie.

Well they are already building the freedom tower or whatever its called. It makes me kinda sick inside, but not because its using my tax money, but because its going to be more of a memorial then a trade center.

On a side note: Was that "commie" comment aimed at me or did it just feel like that. Maybe you shouldve said commies instead. Make it plural so it sounds aimed more widely then at the original poster wink.gif

QUOTE(erei33 @ Sep 11 2007, 04:23 PM) *
Bingo. A 9/11 Memorial Day would be a waste of tax dollars. I really wish you could choose where your taxes go to. For me the voucher would like this:
[To pay for]
Education
Police/Fire/Rescue
Large Military (For defensive purposes *only*)
Infrastructure maintenance.
[Not to pay for]
Everything else.

I am so sick of how wasted my tax dollars are. I don't care that Cindy in NYC has 3 kids, is pregnant with another, and is broke. It's not my fault that shes broke. I shouldn't have to pay for her meals.
Iraq is probably the biggest waste of tax money ever. I don't care if Iraqis are oppressed. At least Saddam kept those barbarians (radical shi'ites and sunnis) in check.

Well to me, Im glad Im paying for those who are in need. I know its not my fault, but if taxes werent so open-ended as they are now, people would never choose to give money to pay for the people who do make a difference but that never get recognition, or certain groups and organizations wouldnt get the funding they need. But i do agree that iraq is huge waist of money, but hey, the government needs to blow milliions of dollars a day on something.... (edit: that was sarcastic btw, dont take it literally)
erei33
QUOTE(ResX @ Sep 11 2007, 05:38 PM) *
Well to me, Im glad Im paying for those who are in need. I know its not my fault, but if taxes werent so open-ended as they are now, people would never choose to give money to pay for the people who do make a difference but that never get recognition, or certain groups and organizations wouldnt get the funding they need. But i do agree that iraq is huge waist of money, but hey, the government needs to blow milliions of dollars a day on something.... (edit: that was sarcastic btw, dont take it literally)


Well helping those in need is important, but for me.. it's at the bottom of the list. There is only so much money to go around, and the entire list can never be covered. IMO, American Education is failing. No Child Left behind was a mistake. Think of all the money spent on welfare. What if, instead of giving low income familys money... they gave students of low income familys scholarships. That's teaching a man to fish, rather than giving him fish on the first of each month.
Paws
I dont think a lot of people would want to observe the tragic events by having a memorial day and taking the day off work. I think they would rather mark the event in an informal way, by themselves.

There maybe worries that people will forget that date but I do think that this is one day no one will ever forget. Even if you tried to forget what day it was, you simply couldn't. You might forget the date of the events in Hiroshima but you cannot forget sept 11 - the day known by its digits.
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE(Paws @ Sep 13 2007, 01:20 AM) *
I dont think a lot of people would want to observe the tragic events by having a memorial day and taking the day off work. I think they would rather mark the event in an informal way, by themselves.

There maybe worries that people will forget that date but I do think that this is one day no one will ever forget. Even if you tried to forget what day it was, you simply couldn't. You might forget the date of the events in Hiroshima but you cannot forget sept 11 - the day known by its digits.


That would have been the 6th of August, 1945, if memory serves me correct rolleyes.gif
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Paranoid Marvin @ Sep 13 2007, 06:02 AM) *
That would have been the 6th of August, 1945, if memory serves me correct rolleyes.gif


Memory? Wow, I didn't realize you were that old tongue.gif
Urbz
QUOTE(.L. @ Sep 11 2007, 11:03 AM) *
No. Last time I checked, the attack on Pearl Harbor isn't a holiday. This is no different.

I disagree. I don't think it should be made into a memorial day of any sort, but I think your comment is nonsensical. Pearl Harbor was purely military. It was one army vs another in a time of war. 9/11 was an attack on civilians and their way of life, and a country's beliefs on the whole. So in that respoect they are very different.

-Urbz
FUKKU
QUOTE(erei33 @ Sep 11 2007, 08:23 PM) *
I am so sick of how wasted my tax dollars are. I don't care that Cindy in NYC has 3 kids, is pregnant with another, and is broke. It's not my fault that shes broke. I shouldn't have to pay for her meals.

Better to pay for the family's meals than to pay for their incarceration when they turn to crime. It's a lot cheaper that way.
QUOTE(erei33)
Iraq is probably the biggest waste of tax money ever. I don't care if Iraqis are oppressed.

I agree with this. The iraqis don't seem to care about democracy that much, at least not enough to take care of it after we gave it to 'em noexpression.gif
Alessandro17
QUOTE(stinky finger @ Sep 15 2007, 05:46 PM) *
Better to pay for the family's meals than to pay for their incarceration when they turn to crime. It's a lot cheaper that way.


I agree. Pity that so many Americans seem to be in favour of prison sentences and the death penalty, but don't want to spend their tax money for social security and free health care.

QUOTE
I agree with this. The iraqis don't seem to care about democracy that much, at least not enough to take care of it after we gave it to 'em noexpression.gif


Of course they don't. Why should they care about our fake and hypocritical western democracy?
In any case the Saddam Hussein regime seemed to work a lot better for their situation than the imported "American Democracy"
FUKKU
QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Sep 15 2007, 06:00 PM) *
Of course they don't. Why should they care about our fake and hypocritical western democracy?
In any case the Saddam Hussein regime seemed to work a lot better for their situation than the imported "American Democracy"

I kind of agree here. It would have been nice to you know, ask them if they wanted democracy or some other type of government once Saddam was toppled noexpression.gif
erei33
QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Sep 15 2007, 02:00 PM) *
Of course they don't. Why should they care about our fake and hypocritical western democracy?
In any case the Saddam Hussein regime seemed to work a lot better for their situation than the imported "American Democracy"

Oh yeah. And Saddam Hussein's regime didn't put the US into $9,000,000,000,000 debt.
QUOTE
I agree. Pity that so many Americans seem to be in favour of prison sentences and the death penalty, but don't want to spend their tax money for social security and free health care.

Social Security is very important but Free Health Care is expensive. Perhaps, make health care mandatory and if you a poor the government could pay for it. I really don't know, my ideal society is one with low, low taxes.
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE(erei33 @ Sep 18 2007, 01:20 AM) *
Oh yeah. And Saddam Hussein's regime didn't put the US into $9,000,000,000,000 debt.


Which is part of the reason why that'll be almost £27.50 in a few years time wink.gif
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