I love the history of Macs and stuff, so I'm very interested in getting a copy of Rhapsody. Could the superhero person thingy shoot me a PM at the speed of light please? Also, what about DP3 and DP4? DP3 had Aqua, and DP4 was a bit better. I wonder if we can get those! And also, I still believe that no version of OSX was usable for day-to-day until Mac OS X 10.2, although I prefer 10.3. (And I have 10.5 )

Id like to try this too, could anyone get it for me? and is it intel imac compatible?

Rhapsody is extremely picky about hardware. It's best to run it in an emulator or on a Pentium I box. Anything from around 1998 should do.

MORE PM's AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT TO SAVE THE DAY, FEAR NOT AS RHAPSODY MAN IS HERE, ALONG WITH HIS TRUSTY SIDEKICK RHAPSODY GURU, TA-DA! lol Matt, youve been demoted to sidekiick looooooooool


max

YAH! HURRAH!

LOL

Guru

I managed to install RDR2 in Parallels Desktop, so it's not just for VMWare, VPC, and Bochs.

glad to hear that you were able to get it


max

I have only one problem: No colour display.

sherry haibara had the same problem... idk, must be common...?


max

Dax,

Can you explain how you got DR2 running inside Parallels (and what version of Parallels are you using?)? I've tried multiple times with different Rhapsody drivers, and it never manages to mount the ISO image of Rhapsody - I get the same thing when trying OPENSTEP 4.2..

thanks,
Patrix.

oh and btw, I've seen many blogs/screenshots out there of openstep (and rhapsody? can't remember) running in Parallels with color, so I'm pretty sure it's possible somehow.

Why use Parallels when you can use a free Virtual x86 emulator like Bochs? Btw... I fixed the sticky mouse problem and the color display goes much faster.



Guru

Well, there is apparently some patchset you can use to install colour. Any ideas guys?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrbill/sets/72057594112307196/

did u use the driver floopy (probly a stupid question, but worth a try?)


max

Yeah, but I don't think that's the patch set you need for it.

Perhaps a Rhapsody Project patch. But they are gone.

So there's no chance of having colour in parallels then? Blah.

hey, when are those pm's at the speed of light with links to rhapsody coming?

lol, sorry for the wait, i forget theyres a "mac betas and classics" thread and that i am decently needed in... sorry bout that, i just noticed today and everythings sorted out and matt, read the yellow box thread

max

oh, and ps, if you cant get hold of me get the link from rhapsody guru, sorry, but ive been kinda buisy, thanks again matt

ah I sloved my installation issues inside Parallels - I needed the updated (build 1884), which I hadn't noticed was there...

Did you happen to get colour by chance?

Not yet.. I got past the install, and the installation of extra stuff, now I reboot and Rhapsody starts up, then all I see is a gray screen. No mouse cursor, nothing happening, no HD activity etc.

Huh... interesting.

Guru

I got mine to work by following Rhapsody Guru's guide to Bochs, except skipping the bochs only part.

So basically, you didn't use Bochs am I right?

Yeah, I have it running in Parallels.

Ok I'm gonna redownload the Bochs guide and follow it closely then - or rather, actually read it I'll report back when I have it running (optimism at work here!)

Tada! There you go.. My problem was the selection of the video driver, Rhapsody Guru's suggestion in the Bochs guide works (no color.. yet).

Also disabling VT-X in the vmflags section helps to even start the install, after loading the drivers from the floppy image.

Disabling or Enabling VT-X doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Oh well. No color, no networking.. Not as fun to run it as it would be if I had some net access and larger resolutions. Did you get networking, Dax?

I didn't try. Let me look in Parallels Windows to see what kind of network card it has.

EDIT: It appears to have a generic Parallels adapter, yet the other side says a Realtek RTL8039...

Son't you think Parallels should emulate a NE2k network adapter? That is the MOST universially supported network adapter to date. Rhapsody supports NE2k.



Guru

What stability problems are you guys having?

I've been using Rhapsody on my IBM ThinkPad since 2000 and I've only had it crash twice in that time (both times in Create, both times it was a Postscript error that kicked me out to the login screen).

The whole reason I continued to use Rhapsody long after other versions of Mac OS X had come out was it's stability. Part of my job is servicing people's systems, and when your system crashes in front of a client that doesn't instill a lot of confidence in your abilities to fix their system.

And not once did I have Rhapsody crash on me while with a client.

So what exactly are you guys talking about? I noticed that neither of the people I quoted posted in the "do you actually use Rhapsody?" thread, so I'm not even sure that they are really using Rhapsody... but I would like to find out about these stability issues (and if we are talking about system problems or application issues).

What I hate to see is Rhapsody getting a bad reputation as being unstable when infact it is rock solid when run on the real hardware it was designed to run on. Every system I've bought to run Rhapsody was bought because I knew that it would run Rhapsody. I've been offered very inexpensive (and very fast) PCs which I turned down because I knew that they could not run Rhapsody (or OPENSTEP for that matter). As those are the only two PC operating systems I use, any PC hardware that couldn't run those operating systems would be little more than a big paperweight for me.

thats cool that you use those very uncommon oss, i have to admit that ive never used rhapsody... but thats old news, i can vouch for rhapsody guru (matt) in saying that hes used it (in bochs)... but other than that idk, and most people i have heard that are using it are using it in bochs or other virtual system... but idk about truely compatable hardware.


max

By the way... when I said "a little unstable"... I mean't on Bochs and NOT on a real computer. On a real computer, Rhapsody seems to run flawlessly with the proper configuration, of course.



Guru

could i get one of those fast as light PMs too please


I have been wanting to try Rhapsody for a while but could never find a working copy, i want to see if i can put somethign together for a native install.

you got it buddy!


PM HURDELING AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT TOWARDS THE VILANOUS EMPTY PM BOX!!!!!

Will it get there in time??? Will the captive be saved from the hideous lack of Rhapsody?????? find out soon...

The PM flew over the treterous teritory of the hideous INTERNET
(GASP!!!!!!!!) YES, OUR HEROS HAVE SUCCEDED AGAIN
BWHSH8R AND HIS TRUSTY SIDE KICK RHAPSODY GURU WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE RHAPSODY ONCE MORE!!!!!!!!!

max

lol

You know, there are real CDs and a Virtual PC 4 VHD file floating around. I think the little birdies at OSBA gave it to the world. Just pointing that out.

What's OSBA?

Umm... So I wasn't supposed to post that?

OSBA stands for the now defunct OS Beta Archives. It was a place to get pretty much any old OS. It died recently due to some idiot 12 year old flamers.



Guru

i need a PM at the speed of light now that i know i can install in bochs

OK... PM me when you get the chance and I'll tell you EVERYTHING you need to know.

Guru

I finnaly got it installed on parallels, now I read somewere I can get it in color, how do I od thta?

Suzuka how did you manage that?and which version of parallels do you use?

Rhapsody guru, I tried bochs all the way, but got the same error message all the time "mach_init failed errno 20" I could install in vmware, but my mouse doesnt work well.Plus i prefer osx and parallels, but with that, I also have some error message.

The PM at the speed of light cuts through the BANDWITH (booo) TO MAKE EVERYTHING GOOD AGAIN. BWHSH8R with his trusty sidekick RHAPSODY GURU HAVE SAVED THE DAY AGAIN WITH THEYRE PM ATTACK!!! (yay for the heros lol)


max

WOW! This is amazing! Who ever knew that anybody would have interest in this rather obscure OS which is based on my favorite OS, NeXTstep!

By the way, my name is Joe and I am happy to join the forums.

NeXT Freak

Hi NeXT Freak! Welcome to the forums! Glad you are as much into NeXT as I am.



Guru

How to install on paralles: rename the .fd to .fdd

Im still looking for colors!

I dunno what graphics chipset is emulated in Parallels.

Guru