I've finally got time to download Leopard (coming in at a steady 840KB/s as I type this). I need to decide if I run it as my main system or if it gets installed on my iPod like the last build I downloaded did. I can handle it being unstable or it being buggy, but if any of my must-have apps don't work then I'll not be able to take it on full time.

So, which apps have you tried? Which apps work and don't work? The ones I rely on for everyday use are:

LaunchBar (don't tell me to use Quicksilver, LaunchBar does what I want far better)
VLC and/or NicePlayer with Perian
Adium
Unison
Photoshop CS3
Camino
Phoenix Slides
LiquidCD and Toast
UnRarX
MacPAR Deluxe
Caffine
Parallels (though it wouldn't kill me to use VMWare or Boot Camp instead)

So, tell us what works and doesn't!

I'd like to request that people put working apps in green and non-working apps in red! Thanks for your time!

To make text green, do it like this:
Green:
Red:

Apps that I know work:

[*] Adium.
[*] Namely
[*] Instantshot.
[*] Unison.
[*] Transmission
[*] Quicksilver.
[*] Adobe Premium Suite CS3.
[*] iLife '06.
[*] Azureus 2.5.0.4 (works much better and faster than on Tiger)
[*] Appzapper.
[*] Vine VNC Viewer (formerly known as OSXvnc)
[*] Google Notifier
[*] VCD and MPEG Tools.
[*] VisualHub.
[*] MacTheRipper.
[*] ComicBookLover.
[*] Senuti.
[*] Camino.
[*] VLC.
[*] Growl.
[*] Little Snitch.
[*] Data Rescue II.
[*] UnRarX
[*] SimplyRAR.
[*] Doze.
[*] StuffIt 11
[*] Dragon Burn.
[*] Yummy FTP.
[*] iScrobbler (a bit of weirdness: this hung during installation, when it asks to check for updates. I later installed Growl and restarted the computer and it now works fine.)
[*] Firefox 2.0.0.4. NOTE: I have experienced quite a bit of font corruption though, especially when using the WordPress editor (cannot see ANY text) or Google search results (text is all smushed together). Disabling the option "Allow pages to choose their own fonts" fixes the problem, but it is still sketchy.
[*] GifFun (what can I say, gifs are awesome).
[*] FFmpegX
[*] Handbrake
[*] Office 2004
[*] WhatSize


Apps that I know don't work:

[*] ANY program which uses input managers. Examples are Chax, Inquisitor, Saft, Afloat ++
[*] Butler (the menubar seems completely frozen; although the quick launch window does work. I switched to QS because of this.)
[*] iSerial Reader (crashes on launch with "Run-Time Error 4: Failed Assertion). NOTE: SerialSeeker DOES launch but it is too outdated to open the recent databases.
[*] PrometeusPro - problems on multiple fronts, first - it crashes on launch, second I cannot seem to install libUSB either (which Prometeus depends on).
[*] SPSS 13 ("cannot run on this architecture")


Note that huge parts of this list is copied from others.

I just used the menu in the reply toolbar

The ones that i had tried are:

Adium
Unison
Camino (writing from it)

Its pretty stable, stacks work awesome, quick preview kicks ass and spaces.... well, i dont know how i managed to live without them.

BTW, this is not a hackintosh, its a MBP 15" Core Duo

Thanks for the lists!

I don't get why people use SimplyRAR instead of RarMe, though

Uhhhh yeah i'd love those kinda numbers.

Heh, I actually took the bother to try and get it from the Usenet but I would have ended up waiting 11 hours to get it whole vs. 5 hours for the torrent to finish, and it was also very slow even compared to my top speed.

I will try some of the apps I also use (such as Toast) as soon as I get it installed.

How many connections were you using? I get a max of 120KB/s per connection, so I just open 8

I was actually thinking about setting the simultaneous downloads to more than 2, anyway they were about 60 kb/s each.

[edit]switched to 8, going at 400+ now - I wish I thought about that before lol

Logic Pro worked by just moving files over from my Tiger install, 3rd party plugs so far aren't working, they show up in AU manager but show they aren't installed.
Might be an easy fix or worst case a reinstall of those plugs... But working nice otherwise.
Later

Aperture works, but for some reason, I can't seem to update it to 1.5.3. Apple Software Update can't seem to install the update.

I think that's what they mean in the 9A466 changelog when they talk about updates not working correctly.

That is a known bug, Roy...

Oh OK. I didn't even bother reading the changelog. Thanks for clearing the up.

Adium
Launchbar
Camino
CaminoKnight
Unison
SerialSeeker
MacPAR deluxe
BatChmod
LiquidCD
VLC
NicePlayer

All seem to be working okay so far. Some slightly weird iissues with Camino, but hopefully nothing too drastic.

I should've thought of that!

add these to the list:

works
menuemeter
smc fancontrol
stuffit expander
geektool

doesnt
split and concant
boot camp???

Bootcamp wont complete partitioning. Errors and prompts to rescue disk with diskutility. Diskutility then fails to repair. Has anyone had success?

WORKS
CS3
Lightroom
Aperture
iLife
iWork
YouControlTunes
Thunderbird
Firefox
Camino

Has anyone been successful in getting CandyBar to work? My Lightroom icon is just asking to get changed. LOL.

also, has anyone noticed the lack of zfs?

Programs that Dont Work
The Unarchiver

Buggy Programs
Leopards Safari is really buggy.
1) Trying to download files that use the php file extension make it it download it as a .php when it was supposed to be a .zip or .dmg.
2)Cant log into most message boards without it crashing.

Firefox has 1 bug I know off and thats showing up right now when I type this message certain graphical things are popping up like I can't see my last 3 letter typed in and if you delete letters than it doesn't actually erase them they actually still stay showing up until you type over them and then they disappear. What a PAIN!! Sorry about this massive run on sentence but the Firefox bug I am talking about is really making itself felt

Camino is turning out too buggy to use

google earth

Adobe Suite CS3
Azureus
FileMaker Pro 8.5
iLife 06
iWork 06
Limewire
MS Office 2004
Opera
RealPlayer
Toast 8 Titanium
VMWare Fusion


BBEdit
Google Earth
Mercury Messenger

It's a read only console thing. It's not missing.

Sorry, I just read up on zfs + OS X. That's very disappointing; I was hoping for zfs as default.

Reason 3.0.5
Ableton live 5.2

There is one HUGE annoying bug in Live though, when you try to close a document, it asks if you want to save the changes, you can click both cancel and no, but nothing happens, so you can't even quit the program unless you save whatever you were working on, regardless if you want to or not.

Anyone else have issue with front row? Its freezing up when i try to open iPhoto, and just overall sluggish on my MBP.

Works here.


That happens with most browsers, it's a MIME issue.


It hasn't happened once to me yet.

works almost fine for me, the only probblemy is on thi sfourm, the typing is all buggy

I get that on every web page, and the toolbar looks awful, especially the divider between the address box and the search box. The colour of the toolbar and the bookmark bar also badly clash.

Cararra Pro 5

Is it my fault or doesn't Adium show smilies?

Your fault.

NeoOffice doesn't work at all.
I can get it installed successfully but when I try to start, the dock icon just jumps a few times and nothing happens.

NetNewsWire (tested 3.01b15 from nnwbeta.com). Works fine except the keyboard shortcut for expanding folders seems to have broken in Leopard, you will have to use the mouse for that.

QuickShareIt works fine, doesn't seem to register itself with Growl though.

Flash CS3 crashes often on big projects during export (i recommend selecting 'Save on Export' in Preferences)

Missing Sync for Mobile doesn't work. However, this may be due to problems with bluetooth pairing, reported as an issue.
Google Earth not working. CRashing on startup.
Skype video doesn't work, crashes when attempt to setup video.
Adium works after I reinstalled it.
FrontRow works but no volume change from remote. Can change it from keyboard.
Garmin Training Center crashes when syncing with GPS.

yeah I noticed that. but Safari works well for me.

Try netscape navigator 9. Works will all firefox plugins and is the fastest browser, faster than camino, safari, and firefox.

iAlertU doesn't work either.

MSN Messenger doesn't work.

I keep getting an error message when I use Word or Excel - "Cannot open Word...already in use." Then it says something about exceeding the license. If I reboot, it is fine until I try to open another file. Anyone else having this problem?

Working Apps
aMule
AOL
AppZapper
Captain FTP
Chicken of the VNC
ffmpegX (re-install required)
iGetter
KCNScrew
Monolingual (starts up, haven't tried to delete languaged yet)
MPlayer
NeoOffice 2.1 (with testing patch of planamesa)
Opera
pearLyrics
PokerStars Client (Alpha Version)
Psi
svnX
TexShop
The Unarchiver
TV-Browser
Unison
UnrarX
Vidalia (together with tor)
VLC
WhatSize

Non-Working Apps
flash-got add-on for Firefox/Thunderbird
GoogleEarth

Yes - lots of font problems (ATSServer errors in Console) and pointer placement issues when floating over links etc.

Other apps with problems:

iGrabnews (hangs/crashes when you switch to Download Queue after starting download but does actually download in the background)
iSerial Reader as already mentioned, however the latest Serial Seeker 1.2.6 will open the current databases
Terminal doesn't remember window position
Volume control from keyboard doesn't work for me - the volume indicator goes up and down but no changes occur
AppleTV doesn't show up in iTunes
NetNewsWire always shows 1 unread message in dock when there are none
Lots of rendering quirks in dock

Otherwise it's been the most stable Apple OS beta I've tried so far, the Panther and Tiger ones released just prior to RTM were horribly unstable - this one seems to be fast and I've had no random app crashes yet.

I am having few problems w/ the beta, but is anyone having problems when safari downloads a file? Sometimes i will download a file but the file type it is supposed to be such as a .pkg.zip or .zip does not appear, in fact safari makes it appear as a text file so then i have to go and change the extension...if anyone knows how to fix this please help me...I love the OS though

Tinker Tool does not work.

I have a question about Safari beta 3.0.2. Is there anybody who installed it on Leopard ? Does it run smoothly ?

I have a problem with Adobe CS3 crack programs. Wont open. Dunno why, but it wont work. Another is Apple Remote Desktop, it only gives me the message that the administrator software does not match the client version and that i need an upgrade. Wich I have.

macam does not work. When you install the components, PhotoBooth as well as the macam program itself crashes trying so start. What a pity, I really wanted to try the new effects.


Actually, you can't install it. Leopard's Safari is Version 3.0, build 5522.8.3, and when you download the update from Apple, you're not able to install it. It says that the requirements are not met when you try. Software Update also doesn't find anything to update.

You need to use the full version with volume license of CS3 ... or transfer the pre-cracked applications from Tiger.

Yes, Remote Desktop does not work for obvious reasons. Leopard has a much different way of work with Sharing, etc. If all you need is simple viewing/control of a local machine, use the 'Share Screen' feature, under 'Shared' in the finder.

Thank you very much:) The only think i dont like with the share screen is that it gives me no choice to observe or control. I mean, it only lets me control the other machine as i see it.

Yeah, i agree - that annoys me too .... however, Timbuktu and/r Chicken of the VNC still work ...

With the new patch (thank you, Nomen Nescio), NeoOffice works just fine. I also find it a lot quicker than it was on Tiger.

Transmit also works.