damasta
Jun 21 2007, 10:36 PM
Maybe someone at apple will take notice!BUG 1
-When moving certain windows X Y coordinates appear in the middle of the screen (pretty sure its a os problem and not crossover)

BUG 2
-Three strange icons are on the desktop that have no properties and only appear when selecting them

BUG 3
-Apple took the appletv os and stuck it in instead of front row forgetting certain phrases left in!


BUG 4
-CONSTANT AUTO CLICKING!!!!! no screens possible, this one sucks because you can't let the mouse hover over anything important
Please post bugs (and fixes) as they are found!
bearcat2000
Jun 21 2007, 10:44 PM
I've heard that bluetooth pairing will hang system preferences. My questions is can you use BT at all, i.e. BT Apple keyboard? or can you not use them at all?
damasta
Jun 21 2007, 10:53 PM
Bluetooth works fine for my mouse...

MacVertigo
Jun 21 2007, 11:15 PM
-Spaces makes your system REALLY slow
-Right clicking freezes mail/safari when you are trying to spell check a word.
- Trash takes forever to empty
- Wireless showed as connected, but it wasn't connected. I had to go into network diagnostics to get it to connect.
- My task bar on top froze.. when I go over sound, or time, or anything my mouse turns to the pinwheel
I head in one of these threads that people were bitching about the font. Go back to the DVD, and install the optional software. That fixes that.
damasta
Jun 21 2007, 11:16 PM
wow... I have none of those on macbook pro intel, what are u using? G3
hazkid
Jun 21 2007, 11:34 PM
I actually have Invisi-Icons on my desktop in 9A410, actually. Also, All of my mounted volumes have duplicate icons seemingly "drawn" on the desktop picture. If you turn off icons, they are still there but unclickable.
We'll see about 9A466 on Sat, as I'm having surgery tomorrow and won't be able to install it.
FriedCPU
Jun 22 2007, 12:03 AM
Can't say I have experienced any of yours, apart from the front row / apple tv thing obviously.
One thing I did find was when dragging things to the dock, if your not careful the icons will move to let you drop it, and then quickly shift back, making you drop it
onto your desktop, its easily retrievable from between the icons without having to hide the dock, just a little querk(sp?).
Also, on first launch of iTunes, after accepting the agreement, it freezes, force quiting etc.. doesn't stop it, a logout/restart is required, After that itunes appears to work fine, has anybody
else experienced this?
Also Safari seems very unstable, just random crashes, I couldn't see a pattern, But after just general browsing, googling, email checking for 20mins, It crashed 6 or so times.
qwertyu
Jun 22 2007, 12:14 AM
Can anyone get their Apple Wireless Keyboard to work? The bluetooth pairing app isn't picking it up for some reason.
murcielago585
Jun 22 2007, 12:15 AM
Has anybody successfully used time machine? I have been trying to use my external hd but doesn;t show as an option to back up to. and when i tr to backup to the same hd it gives me an error, do you need to wipe the external clean for it to work? Also the dock has a few issues, when i put my mouse over it and use magnification its not very smoothe, it looks like a game thats playing framerates over your refresh rate. This is on an imac g5 btw
damasta
Jun 22 2007, 12:32 AM
i cannot get time machine to work at all
MacVertigo
Jun 22 2007, 12:40 AM
I have time machine working. I had to format my external drive to do it.. but it works. Its kind of a waste of a drive. Anyway I don't really want everything I delete being saved. You know those nights you came home drunk, downloaded some porn, and then deleted it.. it was deleted for a reason.

just kidding.
but I did get it to work.
murcielago585
Jun 22 2007, 12:48 AM
dammit, screw it then, i need the crap on my hd
FriedCPU
Jun 22 2007, 11:11 PM
Just discovered a "bug" in stacks, When new applications are added (in this case, adium) and you have your applications folder in stacks, The icon will show as a no icon thing until you logout or restart.
See attachment.
iDarbert
Jun 22 2007, 11:35 PM
QUOTE(FriedCPU @ Jun 22 2007, 02:03 AM)

Also, on first launch of iTunes, after accepting the agreement, it freezes, force quiting etc.. doesn't stop it, a logout/restart is required, After that itunes appears to work fine, has anybody
else experienced this?
Not happening here, I symlinked my old iTunes library and started iTunes.
Agreement, first setup, iTunes starts normally.
Lyph3
Jun 23 2007, 12:03 AM
I've found that I can add bluetooth devices (Except my wireless Apple keyboard) but the Bluetooth service hangs on shutdown.
A few random app silent crashes. "Where did Adium go?"
Mail did not enjoy when I tried to import old settings and mailboxes. And since I had only had Leo installed for about an hour I did a fresh install and that fixed the problem.
Quicksilver's "Don't display on Dock" option doesn't work, but at least the icon looks all reflecty and cool.
The network browser does not work, but iTunes sees local shared libraries.
Spaces is smooth. Time Machine is smooth. The fonts look nice. Leo is at least as fast as Tiger.
The test maching is a MBP C2D 2.33 with 2 gigs of Memory from December.
If anyone wants me to test any specific programs just let me know and I'll do it for you.
conlov
Jun 23 2007, 09:29 AM
I don't seem to be able to change which application I want to be used to open a specific file type. I want VLC to open MP3-files instead of iTunes but I can't change it the usual way in "Get Info". Also I want .nfo-files to be opened by TextEdit or Smultron but I can't change that either.
Does anybody else have the same problem? And does anyone know if you can change it some other way in the Terminal or a config file?
SCARECR0W
Jun 23 2007, 10:35 AM
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14618The absolute best freeware - really should be part of the OS by now...
davorin
Jun 23 2007, 12:25 PM
Copying files from another OSX share is painfully slow...
Around 2 - 3 hours for a 360MByte movie!!!
Also still no A2DP bluetooth profile whereas it is already available in Win XP..
sev7en
Jun 23 2007, 12:47 PM
QUOTE(SCARECR0W @ Jun 23 2007, 10:35 AM)

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14618The absolute best freeware - really should be part of the OS by now...
Awesome tool! Thanks!!!
Lyph3
Jun 23 2007, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(davorin @ Jun 23 2007, 12:25 PM)

Copying files from another OSX share is painfully slow...
Around 2 - 3 hours for a 360MByte movie!!!
Also still no A2DP bluetooth profile whereas it is already available in Win XP..
Copying files over what kind of connection? I was copying movies from my desktop to my MBP using Wireless and a full 800 meg movie takes like 30 minutes.
And Win XP isn't in Beta right now, is it? So why compare the two?
Suzuka
Jun 23 2007, 02:48 PM
home zone starts, then crashes, and to the person who said spaces slowsws down you comeputer, it works fine for me
lu0s3r322
Jun 23 2007, 03:57 PM
i think many people have this but i dont know if it's a bug or not
when i start up leopard i have the downloads folder in the dock and its a folder with an arrow on it
i download something, use it, then drag it out of the folder. then the downloads folder is just an arrow in the dock, the folder behind it has disappeared. is it supposed to be this way because why isnt there just an arrow right when it starts up?
bgg71
Jun 23 2007, 04:56 PM
Bugs I found in 9a466 (macbook 1.83GHz core duo, 2GB RAM):
Blue tooth pairing with my cell phone didn't work. Hanged system preferences so badly that I couldn't kill it even from the command line. I had to press the power button to shut down.
I managed to pair my phone using istumbler. However "missing sync for windows mobile" which syncs the contacts, mail, to do list, music, files, etc did not work (it started fine but did not sync).
Mail hanged also a couple of times. I could not kill it from activity monitor or command line either.
Google earth wasn't working.
Papers 1.1 showed as unregistered and hanged when tried to re-register.
My Garmin GPS did connect to Garmin Training Center and transfered the last workout. However, training center crashed after that. After I restarted it i noticed the data was transfered.
I see pictures above in this thread of frontrow but I could not start that. The apple remote only works with keynote. No frontrow started from the remote.
iAlertu didn't seem to work properly either.
Had also issues with Adium in a second user hanging when asking me if i am sure I want to make it the default messenger. However, the buttons in the dialog were all inactive and then was crashing.
Safari crashed consistently when right clicking or attempting to log into forums like this one, etc.
Bookends would crash when started; not usable.
Canon Image browser would hang not starting.
Gimp would crash at start; not usable.
Onyx won't work with Leopard (understandable).
Pac the man X would crash on start.
Activity monitor was not able to kill a dead app (not all the time; see above). This has happened consistently forcing me each time to powerdown from the powerbutton and powerup again. I found this the most annoying bug.
I have about 122 apps and most other apps worked fine. Many asked for the registration key again.
If I did not mention them here, they worked. Spaces worked fine for me.
Although looks pretty, and coverflow and quicklook in finder seem pretty functional, I decided to not use it on my system as a main OS.
matt b
Jun 23 2007, 05:55 PM
Mail hangs at "checking connection to smtp.gmail.com" when setting up my gmail account whether using auto or manual setup.
Installation of iStat Menus was... very glitchy to say the least, but they still work great!
iDarbert
Jun 23 2007, 06:23 PM
B)-->
QUOTE(matt b @ Jun 23 2007, 07:55 PM)

Mail hangs at "checking connection to smtp.gmail.com" when setting up my gmail account whether using auto or manual setup.
Installation of iStat Menus was... very glitchy to say the least, but they still work great![/quote]
I can't get the network menu to work properly though.
Lyph3
Jun 23 2007, 06:31 PM
QUOTE(bgg71 @ Jun 23 2007, 04:56 PM)

Bugs I found in 9a466 (macbook 1.83GHz core duo, 2GB RAM):
Blue tooth pairing with my cell phone didn't work. Hanged system preferences so badly that I couldn't kill it even from the command line. I had to press the power button to shut down.
I managed to pair my phone using istumbler. However "missing sync for windows mobile" which syncs the contacts, mail, to do list, music, files, etc did not work (it started fine but did not sync).
Mail hanged also a couple of times. I could not kill it from activity monitor or command line either.
Google earth wasn't working.
Papers 1.1 showed as unregistered and hanged when tried to re-register.
My Garmin GPS did connect to Garmin Training Center and transfered the last workout. However, training center crashed after that. After I restarted it i noticed the data was transfered.
I see pictures above in this thread of frontrow but I could not start that. The apple remote only works with keynote. No frontrow started from the remote.
iAlertu didn't seem to work properly either.
Had also issues with Adium in a second user hanging when asking me if i am sure I want to make it the default messenger. However, the buttons in the dialog were all inactive and then was crashing.
Safari crashed consistently when right clicking or attempting to log into forums like this one, etc.
Bookends would crash when started; not usable.
Canon Image browser would hang not starting.
Gimp would crash at start; not usable.
Onyx won't work with Leopard (understandable).
Pac the man X would crash on start.
Activity monitor was not able to kill a dead app (not all the time; see above). This has happened consistently forcing me each time to powerdown from the powerbutton and powerup again. I found this the most annoying bug.
I have about 122 apps and most other apps worked fine. Many asked for the registration key again.
If I did not mention them here, they worked. Spaces worked fine for me.
Although looks pretty, and coverflow and quicklook in finder seem pretty functional, I decided to not use it on my system as a main OS.
Most of what you've listed aren't Leopard bugs. They're programs written for an older OS not working on a new one. If every time Apple came out with an upgraded OS they had to keep support for the older apps... well, we'd be using Windows.
The bluetooth issue is probably the only real bug you've listed, and that's been talked about quite a bit since the beta leaked.
"I see pictures above in this thread of frontrow but I could not start that. The apple remote only works with keynote. No frontrow started from the remote."
Did you do an UPGRADE to Leopard by any chance? Because you're not supposed to.
In conclusion: Learn Things.
bgg71
Jun 23 2007, 07:53 PM
QUOTE(Lyph3 @ Jun 23 2007, 06:31 PM)

Most of what you've listed aren't Leopard bugs. They're programs written for an older OS not working on a new one. If every time Apple came out with an upgraded OS they had to keep support for the older apps... well, we'd be using Windows.
The bluetooth issue is probably the only real bug you've listed, and that's been talked about quite a bit since the beta leaked.
"I see pictures above in this thread of frontrow but I could not start that. The apple remote only works with keynote. No frontrow started from the remote."
Did you do an UPGRADE to Leopard by any chance? Because you're not supposed to.
In conclusion: Learn Things.
No, I did not do an upgrade to leopard. I just installed it fresh and transfered my apps. I agree with you about the apps. Unfortunately I am relying on all those apps to do my everyday tasks. And dude, nobody knows everything, not even apple.
Perhaps, what I listed would better fit in "apps not compatible with leopard".
I reinstalled now leopard with bootcamp on a second partition. For some strange reason frontrow seems to work this time and i am connected to this forum with safari.
QUOTE(bgg71 @ Jun 23 2007, 07:45 PM)

No, I did not do an upgrade to leopard. I just installed it fresh and transfered my apps. I agree with you about the apps. Unfortunately I am relying on all those apps to do my everyday tasks. And dude, nobody knows everything, not even apple.
Perhaps, what I listed would better fit in "apps not compatible with leopard".
I reinstalled now leopard with bootcamp on a second partition. For some strange reason frontrow seems to work this time and i am connected to this forum with safari.
I uninstalled adium (with appzapper) and then reinstalled it. It works now. Will try that with other software I use.
damirko
Jun 23 2007, 09:43 PM
Changing display orientation (i tried only for 90 degrees) doesn't rotate correctly. Image appears squashed. I have a MacBook on an external display (lid closed).
In FrontRow, video preview is not available, and it needs up to a minute to load the movie which is encoded by perian (it's probably perians fault)
SeanM
Jun 23 2007, 10:01 PM
Front Row crashed on me, I could move the mouse but nothing else. No keyboard commands were working, had to power down. This might be because I don't have iPhoto on this partition yet... Doh.
Internet Connect is missing an icon - clicking on it does nothing. Clicking on the phone icon (modem?) also does nothing.
Photo Booth locks up on me when trying to do backdrops on a MacBook. It's glitchy with the other effects too.
Emptying the trash doesn't work sometimes. It will play the sound, close the window, etc but not actually empty anything. I usually have to do it two or three times for it to work.
My iMac and Mac Mini on the network show up as just an Apple Cinema Display and not their actual computers... Perhaps this is cause they are both running Tiger? Dunno.
When clicking on the disclosure triangle for the Preview part of Get Info window, the bottom part of the icon sticks out for a second or two before hiding.
Dock Icon updating is messed up, though it could be an Adium-specific problem... you know how the icon flashes red when you get an instant message, well that is really delayed in Leopard and very slow/laggy. The duck icon doesn't flap his wings either..
iDarbert
Jun 24 2007, 11:58 AM
QUOTE(SeanM @ Jun 24 2007, 12:01 AM)

Dock Icon updating is messed up, though it could be an Adium-specific problem... you know how the icon flashes red when you get an instant message, well that is really delayed in Leopard and very slow/laggy. The duck icon doesn't flap his wings either..
Noticed this too, but it also nicely fades from the "message received" to the "non new messages status".
questionmark
Jun 24 2007, 03:46 PM
Connecting to SMB shares seems to be hit or miss with this build. From what I can tell, it only wants to work if you use the IP address, I couldn't get it to connect correctly using the network name. Also, this build has issues connecting to Windows Vista SMB shares, neither the IP address or Network Name would work for me. Win XP and Linux SMB shares worked fine if you used the IP address.
HotBreeze
Jun 24 2007, 04:10 PM
:S
I'm crying for Apple disaster....
MacOS X never was so badly as it is going now.
I think that if Apple never switched from PowerPC to Intel, it will be good!
Sam0r
Jun 24 2007, 04:35 PM
QUOTE(Derek Willian Stavis @ Jun 24 2007, 05:10 PM)

:S
I'm crying for Apple disaster....
MacOS X never was so badly as it is going now.
I think that if Apple never switched from PowerPC to Intel, it will be good!
Its a beta.... last time I checked, bugs in a beta != disaster.
Jvpiter
Jun 24 2007, 05:15 PM
QUOTE(MacVertigo @ Jun 22 2007, 12:40 AM)

I have time machine working. I had to format my external drive to do it.. but it works. Its kind of a waste of a drive. Anyway I don't really want everything I delete being saved.
I wonder why you had to format your external in order to use Time Machine... I just used my external hard drive with everything in it and worked fine. Time Machine backsup in a dedicated folder so none of your files are going anywhere.
iDarbert
Jun 24 2007, 06:21 PM
QUOTE
I have time machine working. I had to format my external drive to do it.. but it works. Its kind of a waste of a drive. Anyway I don't really want everything I delete being saved.
You can a) tell Time Machine not to backup particular folders and b ) tell Time Machine to encrypt your backups so nobody can access them.
kn-oeien
Jun 24 2007, 06:27 PM
Somebody experienced the same as me, installed leopard on two different macs (MBP C2D and Imac 20 C2D) Well it aint working connection tru network. Not by apple+k and enter the IP, the machines are neither listed in network list.
Too bad, think that is what makes me drop back to tiger. Even if i dont want to.
bgg71
Jun 24 2007, 06:57 PM
I thought with all these cool graphics and features apple added to it may be slower than tiger, but on my 1st generation macbook it seems faster than 10.4.10. However, it's still a little rough around the edges, expected for a beta. I am sure apple will take care of the bugs by october. Where is the firewall configuration in network? Did you guys noticed it's missing?
alxpalm
Jun 24 2007, 06:59 PM
I am experiencing problems with random crashes of the black box of death. "please press the powerbutton untill the ... bla bla bla..."
Anyone got a quickfix for that? i have turned off bluetooth, since some people having issues with keyboards and mobile phones. still not crashed (1 hour later and no crash yet)
bgg71
Jun 24 2007, 07:54 PM
QUOTE(alxpalm @ Jun 24 2007, 06:59 PM)

I am experiencing problems with random crashes of the black box of death. "please press the powerbutton untill the ... bla bla bla..."
Anyone got a quickfix for that? i have turned off bluetooth, since some people having issues with keyboards and mobile phones. still not crashed (1 hour later and no crash yet)
mine never crashed with the black screen of death. i am not using any bluetooth devices though.
QUOTE(kn-oeien @ Jun 24 2007, 06:27 PM)

Somebody experienced the same as me, installed leopard on two different macs (MBP C2D and Imac 20 C2D) Well it aint working connection tru network. Not by apple+k and enter the IP, the machines are neither listed in network list.
Too bad, think that is what makes me drop back to tiger. Even if i dont want to.
bonjour doesn't work either. I guess the networking has some issues.
lowdaksport
Jun 24 2007, 10:19 PM
Only issue I seem to be having is that when I close my macbook pro lid, it doesn't sleep. The status light stays solid, and if I open the lid up nothing happens Im just on a blank screen and nothing brings it back and i have to hold power till it shuts down then reboot. Anyone else having this issue or am I alone lol. I think I am going to wipe it and reinstall one more time I don't have any files that aren't backed up yet.
matt b
Jun 24 2007, 11:07 PM
it seems to me that a lot of these problems are caused by the way networking has been redone in Leopard. since all traffic is now being routed through kernel_task (at least, according to Little Snitch), I expect there was at least some (if not a significant amount) of restructuring done to the networking components in OSX. the problems with bonjour, mail, safari, and other network-intensive programs may be solved as the networking aspects are smoothed out.
macmagix
Jun 24 2007, 11:21 PM
some times after boot airport doesn't find any network or it findes but 5-6 minutes later
questionmark
Jun 25 2007, 12:28 AM
QUOTE(lowdaksport @ Jun 24 2007, 06:19 PM)

Only issue I seem to be having is that when I close my macbook pro lid, it doesn't sleep. The status light stays solid, and if I open the lid up nothing happens Im just on a blank screen and nothing brings it back and i have to hold power till it shuts down then reboot. Anyone else having this issue or am I alone lol. I think I am going to wipe it and reinstall one more time I don't have any files that aren't backed up yet.
had the same problem when I did the upgrade install, tried everything to fix it, ended up just doing a clean erase and install. This beta is not as far along as previous releases, I was reading a story on digg that outlined the road map for Leopard and it appears that they are still adding features until the end of Aug. when they bring out the final release candidate for testing. There is supposed to be a new build at the beginning of July and another at the beginning of Aug. The one in July is suppose to fix a majority of the problems from the 9A466 build.
nigelelliott394
Jun 25 2007, 02:05 AM
the only issue i've had is adium taking AGES to log in
alxpalm
Jun 25 2007, 05:57 AM
Found one more bug so far, the mail. after i started my mail and added my two accounts, everything seemed to work nicely, but when i tried to ad a folder to store my wokrmail in, the client stopped responding, and not even after a force quit the app acted as it was supposed to, bringing only a greyed out version of it on my desktop. gonna reboot and see if that helps.
space ace
Jun 25 2007, 08:13 AM
the animations of expose, spaces, dashboard, dock magnification are choppy - like when quartz, etc. are turned off, but they are enabled, i checked.
while animations in quicklook, cover flow are smooth.
also, when switching windows it's slow and unpleasant, like it waits to draw the new top of the window.
any solution to this? it's the reason i prefer tiger...
on macbook pro
Titaniumrain
Jun 25 2007, 11:57 AM
I am now expecting the rumored major build in August if not later. 9A466 is far too buggy. The most unbearable thing is its 3D Dock. A single word comment is enough; *useless*.
hemiola
Jun 26 2007, 02:42 AM
Yep - the Bug/Known Issue with Final Cut - removing effects and corrupted video (ATI cards) - is real - and it sucks :-(
Work around - quickly zoom in/out on the canvas and it will redraw properly (until you add remove/effects)
Grrrrrrr.
madelk
Jun 27 2007, 04:49 PM
I had the same problem, with this along with some very strange window position, grapics and iSight issues I had to restore to 10.4
QUOTE(lowdaksport @ Jun 24 2007, 04:19 PM)

Only issue I seem to be having is that when I close my macbook pro lid, it doesn't sleep. The status light stays solid, and if I open the lid up nothing happens Im just on a blank screen and nothing brings it back and i have to hold power till it shuts down then reboot. Anyone else having this issue or am I alone lol. I think I am going to wipe it and reinstall one more time I don't have any files that aren't backed up yet.
macuser74
Jun 27 2007, 05:10 PM
When I download a .rar file I get a .php file with a text icon ,I have to change the extension to be able to open the file I downloaded
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