guile
Jul 27 2007, 02:12 PM
The Punisher working perfectly for me, gotta desactivate vertex shaders for smooth gameplay...
keiko
Jul 27 2007, 02:35 PM
Hi.
I was really excited when I saw this, and hoped it would work. It didn't work

I've tried Tomb Raider Anniversary with both X3 and HOMM versions. When I start the app
nothing happens. Any ideas?
guile
Jul 27 2007, 02:55 PM
have you well followed the pdf which explains all stuff you gotta do?
BTW San Andreas works flawlessly for me, everything @max, but i got the mouse problem too, anyone resolved it ?
I got many PC games (my brother uses PC+XP...) and i'm trying all games i can.
Not working:
Virtua Tennis 1
Vice City, but there's a compatible version on bitto, haven't searched too much to find why i got this resolution error...
keiko
Jul 27 2007, 03:57 PM
QUOTE(guile @ Jul 27 2007, 02:55 PM)

have you well followed the pdf which explains all stuff you gotta do?
BTW San Andreas works flawlessly for me, everything @max, but i got the mouse problem too, anyone resolved it ?
I got many PC games (my brother uses PC+XP...) and i'm trying all games i can.
Not working:
Virtua Tennis 1
Vice City, but there's a compatible version on bitto, haven't searched too much to find why i got this resolution error...
Ofc.
cyclonefr
Jul 27 2007, 04:57 PM
QUOTE(mil0sh @ Jul 27 2007, 04:17 AM)

Can someone make somekind of howto add stuff to registry?
Don't worry about the numbers, just don't put any, and when launching the game, it'll "modify" automatically cider's reg and add one
mil0sh
Jul 28 2007, 12:21 AM
QUOTE(cyclonefr @ Jul 27 2007, 06:57 PM)

Don't worry about the numbers, just don't put any, and when launching the game, it'll "modify" automatically cider's reg and add one

I still get the "Game is not installed correctly" message. I am doing something wrong.
Anybody else trying to make PES6 (Pro Evolution Soccer 6) work?
cyclonefr
Jul 28 2007, 09:18 AM
Try to install it via crossover since crossover registry base is the same as cider's. Then copy paste, but i don't know if it'll fix your problem.
muitommy
Jul 28 2007, 10:49 AM
anyone could tell me how to load the save or where are the saves located in?
and i found my settings come to default again after i close it and run again, anyway i can do to help with this?
\thanks
guile
Jul 28 2007, 11:58 AM
saves are either located in the registry or in your document and settings folder, sometimes directly in the program directory.
guile
Jul 28 2007, 04:28 PM
new tested games:
Path Of Neo -> black screen
Crazy Taxi -> color screens but nothing more
To test:
Riddick
PoP2
Deus Ex
Laviathan
Jul 29 2007, 01:25 PM
About the mouse centering issue... GameTap's Cider has got this line in its config file:
"MouseWarping" = "0"
Iv'e been trying to get Dungeon Keeper 2 working (yeah I know...)
And I get the mouse issue with Cider from X3
Trying it with GameTap's Cider won't even start the game, so I can't say if this is any good...
Anyone tested the effects on another game?
Suzuka
Jul 29 2007, 03:38 PM
QUOTE(Laviathan @ Jul 29 2007, 01:25 PM)

About the mouse centering issue... GameTap's Cider has got this line in its config file:
"MouseWarping" = "0"
Iv'e been trying to get Dungeon Keeper 2 working (yeah I know...)
And I get the mouse issue with Cider from X3
Trying it with GameTap's Cider won't even start the game, so I can't say if this is any good...
Anyone tested the effects on another game?
can you send Game Tap's cider to me..
K-tron
Jul 29 2007, 05:31 PM
Link to GameTapLite
GameTap Cider
isometric
Jul 29 2007, 09:23 PM
I added the Mouse Warping line to the GTA_SA config file but still no change

I moved the GTA game directory over to Gametap and set the proper parameters in the info.plist.
The mouse seems more sensitive but still unplayable due to the mouse centering issue.
I'll see if it makes a difference for Oblivion later on tonight.
super dooper
Jul 30 2007, 07:07 AM
did you try
"AbsoluteMouseSensitivity" = "1"
either that or using the x3 cider made battlefield 2 far less jumpy.
on that subject... are these keys in the info.plist references to config settings on the windows side of things? would looking at the config.ini files from the windows install shed some light on fixing the hardware problems...?
Pluto999
Jul 30 2007, 02:37 PM
Battlefield 2142 unofficial Cider port - here is a video recorded by a member of our Russian forum in iShowU:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPd5qBUfDk The game screen was centered properly but somehow it was recorded in a corner.
Laviathan
Jul 30 2007, 03:10 PM
Apparently some dude fixed the mouse issue with GameTap's version of Cider...
Too bad I can't get good old Dungeon Keeper 2 working on that
joof
Aug 2 2007, 03:58 PM
Hi, I try to get GTA SA working.
It works with Cider from X3 but without the mouse and I also try with Cider from GamTap, the mouse is working but peoples aren't textured...
If someone have a good idea.
Also I try to get GTA in full screen mode but without success. I change the value in the config file.
Anindo
Aug 2 2007, 05:47 PM
Huhu, i got GTA San Andreas to work perfect (in the few minutes i tested)
The config File in the Library/Preference-Folder is the beast. With the GameTap-Version it adds the entry
"MouseWarping" = "0" after "ForceVSync" = "0". The other problems have been allready fixed, but once again the Settings:
"FullScreen" = "1"
"VertexShaders" = "N"
"AbsoluteMouseSensitivity" = "1"The config-Tweeking should also work for Oblivion and Far Cry, but havenīt tried yet
Laviathan
Aug 2 2007, 06:05 PM
I just get an error:
"wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger..."
while starting with gametap's cider :/
anyone got an idea what to do?
joof
Aug 2 2007, 07:01 PM
Thanx Anindo, I will test your config file to night
Grooby
Aug 2 2007, 08:02 PM
Hello,
I got problem with games using registry entries, i'm pasting exported values from windows to cider registry files, and game still says "registry corrupted", does anyone know why registry entries are not seein by game?
Tested with: Need For Speed HP2
G.
swistak
Aug 2 2007, 10:13 PM
ok i can confirm that gametap cider + anindo's config do work, albeit very slow, i'm still trying to resolve that issue
Suzuka
Aug 2 2007, 11:43 PM
Oblivion Doesn't even run, I get the errors
8/2/07 7:42:40 PM [0x0-0xd70d7].com.transgaming.gametap[1992] Thu Aug 2 19:42:40 Macintosh.local cider[1992] <Error>: unknown error code : invalid context
8/2/07 7:42:40 PM [0x0-0xd70d7].com.transgaming.gametap[1992] Thu Aug 2 19:42:40 Macintosh.local cider[1992] <Error>: unknown error code : Set a breakpoint at CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are returned
8/2/07 7:42:41 PM [0x0-0xd70d7].com.transgaming.gametap[1992] wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...
chival4ry
Aug 3 2007, 03:56 AM
QUOTE(som3on3 @ May 15 2007, 06:35 PM)

--HOWTO--
1. you need and NFS Installed Cracked version (no-cd crack!!!)
2. download Heroes of Might of Magic V for osx (search ussaul places)
3. apply crack on it and see if is running (if it does your good to go)
Above all, som3on3, thanks.
BTW, what does No3 mean? When I double-clicked Cedega or Cider, I didn`t see any reactions.
Where should crack be applied?
Suzuka
Aug 3 2007, 02:18 PM
QUOTE(chival4ry @ Aug 3 2007, 03:56 AM)

Above all, som3on3, thanks.
BTW, what does No3 mean? When I double-clicked Cedega or Cider, I didn`t see any reactions.
Where should crack be applied?
You can usually get a crack at gamecopyworld (Google it, I'm afraid to post a link) search for the game you want and find a NO-CD crack, make sure in the description it says "Replace game.exe with the included file" or something like that
joof
Aug 3 2007, 03:14 PM
I found where was my problem, I had to edit the config file in my Library and not in the .app folder. So now when I change a config parameter it works!
ѕӎѳѳҭңӌ
Aug 3 2007, 08:33 PM
So, to get thing working for any game. I install with crossover, take the installed folder and place it into the template?
Anybody using nfs underground 2? I want 1920x1200!!!
Thanks in adv.
DrDeath
Aug 3 2007, 10:44 PM
*sigh* This sounds so easy...
I tried: Out Run 2006, Silent Hunter III, Il-2 Sturmovik, Guild Wars Factions, Battlefield 1942 and even Doom 3 - not a single one works. All of these games are known to work with either WINE or Cedega, so there shouldn't be a technical reason. Still, the best that I get is a black screen for a second and then - nothing.
Ikari_86
Aug 4 2007, 11:50 AM
work on gma 950?
guile
Aug 4 2007, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(Anindo @ Aug 2 2007, 07:47 PM)

Huhu, i got GTA San Andreas to work perfect (in the few minutes i tested)
The config File in the Library/Preference-Folder is the beast. With the GameTap-Version it adds the entry
"MouseWarping" = "0" after "ForceVSync" = "0". The other problems have been allready fixed, but once again the Settings:
"FullScreen" = "1"
"VertexShaders" = "N"
"AbsoluteMouseSensitivity" = "1"The config-Tweeking should also work for Oblivion and Far Cry, but havenīt tried yet

The config file you put is not the one generated by Gametap's cider, it's the one from the X3, cause gametap only uses shaders 1.2. Also there's no mouse parameters in your config file, so why uploading it ?
chival4ry
Aug 4 2007, 08:59 PM
QUOTE(Suzuka @ Aug 3 2007, 02:18 PM)

You can usually get a crack at gamecopyworld (Google it, I'm afraid to post a link) search for the game you want and find a NO-CD crack, make sure in the description it says "Replace game.exe with the included file" or something like that
Suzuka, thanks.
When I clicked Cider for playing Most Wanted, a black screen appeared.
Perhaps, because of my sse2 system...
Templeton Peck
Aug 6 2007, 01:32 AM
eDuke32 (a Duke Nukem 3D port) runs flawlessly with Cider from X3 (GameTap Cider has an annoying mouse-boundary issue).
I'm going to try to disable Tomb Raider Anniversary's setup dialog, and see if that allows it to run.
Anindo
Aug 6 2007, 09:46 AM
QUOTE(guile @ Aug 4 2007, 04:03 PM)

The config file you put is not the one generated by Gametap's cider, it's the one from the X3, cause gametap only uses shaders 1.2. Also there's no mouse parameters in your config file, so why uploading it ?
For shure itīs the Gametap-Version. I never have had X3. This config is working well for my GTA SA. If you have any Problems with it, say it, but donīt tell me nothing.
DrDeath
Aug 6 2007, 10:40 AM
QUOTE(Ikari_86 @ Aug 4 2007, 11:50 AM)

work on gma 950?
Me? No, it's an MBP.
guile
Aug 6 2007, 03:14 PM
QUOTE(Anindo @ Aug 6 2007, 11:46 AM)

For shure itīs the Gametap-Version. I never have had X3. This config is working well for my GTA SA. If you have any Problems with it, say it, but donīt tell me nothing.
There's no "AbsoluteMouseSensitivity" = "1" flag at [dinput] in your config file or MouseWarping = "0" at [sdldrv]
Your config file looks like this
CODE
[sdldrv]
"DefaultScreenWidth" = "1024"
"DefaultScreenHeight" = "768"
"ScreenDepth" = "32"
"Enable3D" = "1"
"FullScreen" = "1"
"ShowFPS" = "0"
"DisplaySettingsDialog" = "0"
"ForceVSync" = "0"
instead of
CODE
[sdldrv]
"DefaultScreenWidth" = "1024"
"DefaultScreenHeight" = "768"
"ScreenDepth" = "32"
"Enable3D" = "1"
"FullScreen" = "1"
"ShowFPS" = "0"
"DisplaySettingsDialog" = "0"
"ForceVSync" = "0"
"MouseWarping" = "0"
and
CODE
[dinput]
; dead zone for joystick input from 0 to 10000. 1000 is 10% of range.
"DefaultDeadZone" = "1000"
instead of
CODE
[dinput]
; dead zone for joystick input from 0 to 10000. 1000 is 10% of range.
"DefaultDeadZone" = "1000"
"AbsoluteMouseSensitivity" = "1"
You should check your config files before uploading them
K-tron
Aug 6 2007, 04:26 PM
I got Oblivion working with Gametap Cider but there are two major problems. One is that almost all textures are gone, took a screen shot of the one place I have found so far that actually has some texture. The second problem is that when mouse warping is turned off mouse boundery issues popup. In order to turn all that way around you have to go to one boundery, hit tab and move the mouse to the other side of the screen. Config file is included.
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment
guile
Aug 6 2007, 05:57 PM
about textures try to change
CODE
[d3dgl]
"AnisotropicTextureFiltering" = "Y"
"VertexShaders" = "Y"
; type of vertex shaders to use (Hardware/Software/Auto)
; hardware will use whatever the opengl drivers make available
; software will use winex software emulation (will be slow!)
; (has not been implemented yet!)
"VertexShaderMode" = "A"
"PixelShaders" = "Y"
into this
CODE
[d3dgl]
"AnisotropicTextureFiltering" = "Y"
"VertexShaders" = "N"
; type of vertex shaders to use (Hardware/Software/Auto)
; hardware will use whatever the opengl drivers make available
; software will use winex software emulation (will be slow!)
; (has not been implemented yet!)
"VertexShaderMode" = "A"
"PixelShaders" = "Y"
You can also try to disactivate pixelshaders, it would be faster...
isometric
Aug 6 2007, 11:48 PM
QUOTE(Anindo @ Aug 6 2007, 09:46 AM)

For shure itīs the Gametap-Version. I never have had X3. This config is working well for my GTA SA. If you have any Problems with it, say it, but donīt tell me nothing.
So you have GTA:SA working perfectly?
* How did you fix the Mouse Centering Issue??
Anindo
Aug 7 2007, 01:05 PM
QUOTE(guile @ Aug 6 2007, 03:14 PM)

You should check your config files before uploading them
I checked this config and you are right, but i`m quite shure that this it is not the file i uploaded (or i was too drunken). Is a Name-Confusion possible on this Server with another File called "config.zip"?
Here is a new one with Shader 2.0-Settings. The Performance is better with this. Maybe better to change the "VideoRam"-Settings, because this one is set to 256 MB.
guile
Aug 8 2007, 03:14 PM
isometric> damn ! can't you even read the posts ??? The answer to your question is my post just before yours ! Read !
Anindo> I don't think there can be a confusion, maybe you've uploaded your config file before modifying it.
Also have you changed the default preferences folder in the info.plist file ? Many people leave it by default so they have the same folder for all their games using cider... It's better to change it for each games
Cupertin0
Aug 8 2007, 08:35 PM
Hi all, I have been checking these for some time now, thought i'd register today

I have a question, i am using Cider and GTA San Andreas, i played this game on the pc some time ago and I kept my savegames, does anybody have a clue where to put them so i can ude these in the mac version? I can't figure out where the games are stored at all with this gta version.
Thanks
echebon
Aug 9 2007, 02:23 AM
Has anyone fixed the mouse issue with FarCry? I am using the X3 version of cider. I tried to edit the mouse sensitivity in the preference file like in an earlier post , which did not work. The mouse is very jittery, and the game is unplayable.
Also tried to get Republic Commando working with no luck Cider just hangs.
Suzuka
Aug 9 2007, 02:32 AM
Im running Oblivion with GameTaps cider with K-Trons config file, it starts, but all I see is the health bars/fatuige/magic/compass, but everything else is black, K-Tron, can you send me your cider file, just leave out the game
guile
Aug 9 2007, 01:19 PM
The mouse sensivity option doesn't work with X3 Cider, use the gametap version of Cider ->
http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3...layer_setup.dmg
echebon
Aug 10 2007, 04:33 AM
Thanks, I'll give it A try.
Well, tried it. The game starts then hangs on loading the map.
Game is not working with GameTap version.
tazxen
Aug 11 2007, 12:28 AM
Hi all.
Has anyone figured out how to add commandline switches to the game to be launched? Like: "game.exe -opengl" ? I tried just adding it to the info.plist in CedegaGameName with no luck. Normally Wine and Cedega have this ability, I expect Cider should as well.
chimpy
Aug 11 2007, 01:03 PM
Hi guys,
I've diligently read through this entire thread, and well, I've been really interested in Cider for a while after playing a couple of Cider games, and I'd absolutely love to start making my own Cider ports, but tbh, I don't really understand everything you've written down here. I understand editing the info.plists and dragging the game files into the Cider template (will try it with a Rome: Total War demo and post back today). But the bits I don't understand are the type of things guile posted on P. 17 (post 336). Where do you get that info from? And how do you know what to do? If someone could explain
how you actually figure out what to do I'd be really grateful.

ty
EDIT1) Thought you might want to know: On demonoid.com DAGOwatt (posted earlier in here) has posted a torrent that fixes the mouse issue in GTA:SA and VC. I can confirm it works with VC (occasionally sticks, just move the mouse to the extreme left/right/up/down). I haven't downloaded SA yet. He said that it doesn't work with FarCry though. You should still be able to access it even if you're not a member (I'm not btw).
2) On a french forum (can translate with Babel fish on altavista) they are discussing the exact same thing, and have a list of working and non-working games. Seems like a very good thread.
http://forum.macbidouille.com/index.php?showtopic=224908 Btw, they talk about how to change the language that the game is presented in too, if that interests any of you.
EDIT 2Yeah!!! Did my first Cider game! Downloaded 'Rome - Total War Demo' (hence needs no NOCD), installed it with an xp bottle (which I made default) with CrossOver (for some reason the game wouldn't run when I clicked 'Rome Total War Demo' in '~Home/Applications/CrossOver/Rome - Total War Demo/Rome - Total War Demo' - I had to go into '~Home/Library/Application Support/CrossOver/Bottles/newbottle/drive_c/Program Files/Activision (I think it was in there, I moved it to Cider, now I'm not exactly sure)/Data/rome.exe'.
When I tried to click the first rome app it said that the bottle wasn't default or something and couldn't find app - something like that.
Anywho, plonked the Data (in ~Activision) folder into Cider's c_drive and edited the .plist, and it worked perfectly! Except loading screens lost their background (all you got was the red bar filling up). Great stuff! And, CrossOver couldn't get past the menus. As soon as you clicked Start or whatever it would load, then the screen would stay black. Had to Force Quit.
Just played the main battle available in the demo (about 1200 men). All settings on and highest on a
GMA 950. 1GB Ram. Core 2 duo. 2 GHz. It worked. Very nicely. Lots of camera panning as well. One annoying downside which I can't figure out as I'm new to this - The mouse refuses to move past a certain horizontal point on the screen. The point is right at the bottom the screen, from about halfway down the mini-map. So only a tiny part of the screen, but it happens to be the part which contains 50% of the unit commands -.- It's on the largest resolution. Changing the resolution to the smallest only makes the bottom area larger, and also the right-hand side is also becomes affected. The odd bit though, is that this doesn't happen in the menus. Any ideas?
Sorry for the massive post
Suzuka
Aug 11 2007, 04:14 PM
QUOTE(chimpy @ Aug 11 2007, 01:03 PM)

well. One annoying downside which I can't figure out as I'm new to this - The mouse refuses to move past a certain horizontal point on the screen. The point is right at the bottom the screen, from about halfway down the mini-map. So only a tiny part of the screen, but it happens to be the part which contains 50% of the unit commands -.- It's on the largest resolution. Changing the resolution to the smallest only makes the bottom area larger, and also the right-hand side is also becomes affected. The odd bit though, is that this doesn't happen in the menus. Any ideas?
Sorry for the massive post

This is because gametap's cider has mouse boarders, there is no way to fix this now
tazxen
Aug 11 2007, 05:07 PM
QUOTE
This is because gametap's cider has mouse boarders, there is no way to fix this now
This is a known problem with Wine (which is the codebase Cider is built on).
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1410http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7247http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6971http://wiki.winehq.org/DInput
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