like the title says, i'm looking to WC my next rig, but i can only spend $100-$175 on the WC system. what are some good options? right now i'm leaning toward the thermaltake 735, since it's compatible with the case i'm getting

any other opinions?

Is your main purpose for chosing WC for overclocking or just normal cooling and noise?

I had a Zalman Reserator V1+ and loved it. Its an external unit, so doesn't cramp up your case and has no fans, only the internal pump.
The unit makes zero noise which is its main goal, but overclocking wasn't a problem for me.

It cooled my overclocked amd64, Geforce FX6800 and northbridge chipset better than any previous cooling solution and with, did I already mention, NO noise.

This unit is big, but does sure raise quesions when people see it.

i think you should check out swiftech http://www.swiftnets.com/ i have the H20-220 Apex Ultra very good kit
keep my core 2 and northbridge nice and cool even on those 38c days core 2 is running at 3.7 Ghz .

i plan to overclock, but only very mildly (from 2.13 up to 2.5 or 2.6) ..i mainly want it because the pc will be in my bedroom, and i don't like a lot of noise while sleeping

i was looking mainly at internal kits, cuz my desk space is limited

asetek waterchill looks pretty nice, i think

My setup is all internal.







i dont like kits.

setup consists of:

2x120mm radiator
2x120mm Noctua fans
D-Tek Fuzion CPU Waterblock
Aquaxtreme MP1 GPU waterblock
Swiftech mini res
Laing ddc pump
7/16" ID masterkleer tubing

was able to get my e6600 to go from 2.4ghz to 3.4ghz running below 50c with load.

Nykwil very nice setup

FYI, the reserators comes with several feet of excellent tubing and it doesn't have to be on/near the desk.
(Mine sat 4 feet away on the floor.)

very nice setup.. is that a g5 or a mac pro? btw, i didn't know that those cases were btx format?

neither

its a custom built pc with an atx motherboard in g5 case

It's a hack pro

so g5/mac pro cases have btx mounted mobo's? that's cool.. might have to find one of those for me

They don't, installing a PC into a G5 or Mac Pro is a, start from scratch, custom job.

^i see... oh well, either way, it's a sweet rig

DangerDen makes very high quality liquid cooling parts, you might want to look into what they have to offer. You can cool your system at a reasonable price but the price does go up the more stuff you cool (CPU, GPU, chipset, even your harddrive). Goodluck!

Here is my watercooled Hackintosh in a G5 case,









Uses a modified Coolermaster "Aquagate Mini" setup + Dual 120mm Radiator.

ZOMG, that is freakin awesome

If you want to go WC I would suggest that you build a custom setup. Go with all 1/2" fittings and 7/16" for the tubing, that way you'll minimize that chance of leaking. If you want, you can also use non-conductive coolant like FluidXP or PCIce, just in case you get some liquid on your stuff they won't be fried that way. Other than that just shop around for parts, Dangerden does make very good components, but you can find them for cheaper at places like Xoxide and FrozenCPU. Don't be afraid to buy used waterblocks, but I would stay away from buying used radiators and pumps as they are harder to clean and maintain. You should be able to put together a quite decent custom setup for 175.

BTW Nykwil, what block is that? D-tek Fuzion? I don't think I've ever seen that one before.

yes it's the d-tek fuzion

best place to buy from:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfuuncpubl1.html

Have you had experiences with any of the swiftech blocks? How much better does the Fuzion perform? I know it performs better than even the storm, but I don't know if the performance margin will justify the switch.

hey aqua-mac, I don't recall any 7900GTX for PC which was that long ??? Is that the Mac version that you flashed to a Quadro FX or is it an OEM version that wasn't designed for retail sale ??

u1m2,

No this is not a Mac version but is a PC verson of the 7900 GTX 512. You are right though, Pc cards did not generally have the extension, believe it or not this extension came off a 256meg 7800 GTX made by Dell. However I think they are also available from We love Macs. I did have to flash the card with a modded rom as 512 NV cards, do not work in Hack Pro's right off the bat. While I was at it I softstrapped the rom device id to a Quadro FX 5500 (changed the device id in the rom to be the same as the 5500 then corrected other parts of the rom to account for this) and flashed the card. The Quadro FX 5500 drivers are already in OSX and the card was immediatly worked with OSX and uses the Quadro FX 5500 open GL engine obviously with Dual natit kext installed. This card blows away the Apple Quadro FX 4500! With the Quad core @ 3.2 GHz I am getting Xbench scores just into the 200's.

I am interested in getting the 8800 GTX running and have started looking at the rom, but I don't think we will see driver support in OSX untill Leopard ships. Then it should be doable.

Dark 4881,

The tray I used to mount the motherboard on is from a Coolermaster Aluminium Wave case, it can be seen here:

Click Here

I don't have any specific measurements for the hole cutout at the back of the G5 case, but once you have the Coolermaster motherboard tray it is a case of (no pun intended) of carefully measuring. Some of the standoffs from the G5 case can be used to secure the Coolermaster tray to the case and I finished off with some pop rivets at the back Anystanoffs that you don't need can be removed easily with a pair of pliers. This makes the whole mod very secure. The case comes with the correct motherboard standoffs, so no problems there. The only mod to the tray, was to remove the four lugs on the back pavel that would have interfered with the correct working of the rear G5 latch. I used aluminium angle to mount the radiator at the front of the case 15 x15 mm at the front and this was all carefully pop rivited to the radiator and two larger pieces of aluminium angle top and bottom which are in turn fixed through ther floor of the G5 case using existing G5 PS mounting holes and through the intermediate tray that supports the DVD drive.

Both 120 fans at the front have adjustable speed so are set at the slowest setting to keep things quiet, although one is set at slightly higher speed to avoid any resonance.

I am currently working on a polished stainless steel shroud to replave the black card mock up that is seen in the pictures above. I will post new pictures when I have finished this and also working on various other mods that will clean up both the visual look to try and make the case cleaner, more like the G5 case internals.

Hope this is helpfull.

truth be told, aqua-mac, i was hoping for even more detail haha

i do better with step by step instructions when it comes to building things

but thanks

have someone ever tryed this cooler

Evercool water cooling

it looks nice and cheaper

I seriously doubt that it will perform better than the high end air coolers. You are better off with a Tuniq Tower or something if you are looking to buy a WC system like that.

so what you recomend as a cheap WC system,
not more than $100 all the kit

Honestly, if you are looking to spend less than 100, I would just go with high end air cooling. Water cooling is a delicate thing, and requires a lot of maintainance and quality parts to reach its full potential. And high end air cooling like the Tuniq Tower or the Coolermaster Gemini will out perform most of the cheap water cooling kits you see anyway.

I was thinking in something like the zalman´s cooler the expensive ones i have a pentium d and i actualy live ina very hot place the weather its betraying me, well i was thinking in something like that to OC my P D 805 to 3.66 or 3.9 i guess one of the high end aircooler would work

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If you are planning on overclocking a pentium D on air you should be prepaired to spend around $40-$50 for something like the Coolermaster Geminii or the Tuniq Tower or the Ultra-120 with some quality fans like Sunons and Yate Loons. Cheap air coolers are good for stock systems, but they will have a lot of trouble keeping down the heat after overclocking, even more so with a Pentium D, which runs very hot.

so for your back panel, i'm guessing you used the back of the coolermaster tray also, and just trimmed it to where you wanted it?

Hey, I just found something great about TEC !

Not so expensive compared to its performances.
Safer than WC, easier to setup, outperforming air cooling...

Check this out :

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/Ult...Tec/index.shtml

Has anyone tested it yet ?

Has anyone tested a cool-it freezone with osx86 ?

Yes, thats right, I used the removable panel as a template, just be careful to measure, then remeasure, mistakes can be costly!

getting the pieces trimmed right is gonna be my biggest problem, i'm not very tool savvy. but when it comes time to put it all together, i'll be in my element

Use a jigsaw to cut the G5 case with a very fine metal cutting blade. The secret to not scratching the G5 case is to cover the whole back of the case with tape. You can use masking tape but I used Insulating tape as it is thicker. The bed of the Jigsaw will make mincemeat of your G5 case otherwise......

i did it the hard way with a dremel.

but yeah definitely tape up cutting area like crazy.

Quite a few show up if you atomic for "liquid cooling"

Hello,

I have a Pentium D 820 (2.8Ghz) overclocked to 4Ghz.
The issue is that on Mac Os X the time passes much faster and the clock is never correct. The PC runs totally stable (no overclock issues) but somehow the OSX utilizes thecpu frequency or something to calculate the time.

My System profiler says teh following:

Machine Name: Apple Development Platform
Machine Model: ADP2,1
Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 1 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 1.14 GHz

I think that if I can cheat MAC OS X to understand that I am running a 4Ghz Processor, I might have this problem fixed.

Anyone have a clue?

why is this in my thread? honestly? this thread has nothing to do with correcting fsb clock

I wouldnt mess with that cooler....or anything from Ultra for that matter. TEC, or peltiers, work on a temperature differential....the greater the temp difference between hot (cpu) and cold (heatsink) sides, the more efficient they become. You really wont see any of the advantages of thermo electric coolers unless you use them along with water cooling.

The TEC used in that cooler is grossly undersized at 50W, I assume this is because the provided heatsink is not capable of dissapating much more energy. However, for most desktop processors, you will want to use an 200+W peltier which will require a pretty beefy supplimental power supply, I recommned Meanwell.

That being said, properly done water cooling supplimented by a good TEC setup, can easily hit subzero temps.

Nice wc/tec components: http://www.dangerden.com