DiaboliK
Mar 19 2007, 04:53 PM
Alright kids,
i hate xbench's opengl and other graphics tests, cause it dependent on the monitor's resolution and refresh rate, change that and your results change!
so some people here at :
GioFX , created
OpenMark : OpenGl benchmarking for Mac OS Xwith that said and done lets post some results.
heres my ATi x1300Pro 256 pci-e with NatitX1300(R1) and 1049 ATi kexts:
(you need to convert the .tga to something uploadable to attach here)
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmenti will post my other cards when im done actually using them, to pull a few benches off them.
-DiaboliK
(if this program crahses your system or locks it up, you have a problem with your OpenGL

)
DiaboliK
Mar 20 2007, 12:45 PM
couple more of my cards:
XFX 7600GS fanless 256mb pci-e: natit dual v02, unedited nvidia 1049 kexts
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentSapphire X1600Pro 512mb pci-e: NatitX1600 (R1v3), edited atiradeonx1000.kext and 10.4.5 atindrv.kext , all other ati kexts are 1049
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentIve got a couple more cards but they are agp and i cant use agpgart so ill post anyway but i have to get that machine updated:P
lets see some more benches so we can have a nice comparison!
-DiaboliK
alicheusz
Mar 23 2007, 05:21 AM
GF 6600 TC on 10.4.9 kernel 8.9.1, I am curious how this benchmark is depended on CPU I have celeron 2.53GHz
DiaboliK
Mar 23 2007, 05:27 PM
QUOTE(alicheusz @ Mar 22 2007, 09:21 PM)

GF 6600 TC on 10.4.9 kernel 8.9.1, I am curious how this benchmark is depended on CPU I have celeron 2.53GHz
this doesnt bech your cpu just your gpu and opengl.
linuxkid
Mar 26 2007, 09:00 PM
Hackintosh specs:
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200
1GB Corsair Ram
Gigabyte K8N Pro SLi
(1) XFX Geforce 7900GT Overclocked
OSX 10.4.8
Semethex 8.8.1 kernel
Natit Universal Installer
Click to view attachment
alc0h0lic
Mar 26 2007, 09:58 PM
GMA950 @ 1600x1200x32 =
609 Points... yeah it suxx bigtime
ritalin
Mar 27 2007, 07:32 PM
GMA950 @ 1024x768x32 = 720
Nvidia 6200 PCI @ 1280x1024x32 = 5807
Both on a Asrock conroe 945G-DVI with a C2D 1.87GHz E6300 and 1Gb Ram.
Zulu.Walker
Mar 28 2007, 08:31 AM
Can't run the bench at any other resolutions other than 1152x870x32 (crashes when switching to fullscreen), my desktop is at 1280x1024x32. Everything works fine otherwise, the app scared me. Natit Dual v.02 with 10.4.9 kexts, more at sig.
Palit Geforce 7600GT 256MB PCIe
Openmark Score: 16040
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment
Korrupted
Mar 28 2007, 09:00 AM
Pentium 4 3Ghz HTT
2GB DDR
200GB HDD
10.4.8[8.8.1]
1680x1050x32 res
7900GS stock
consolation
Mar 29 2007, 10:09 AM

I'm surprised to see 7600GTs scoring higher then 7900GS' and very close to 7900GTs, I suspect something is very unwell with kext's responsible for 7900s.
All benchies below were run at stock speeds.... Good old 9800, still pulling it's weight, damn that was a good card.
redcell
Mar 29 2007, 11:09 AM
Sapphire Ati Radeon x1600xt 256MB DDR3
kle500
Mar 29 2007, 07:53 PM
Although i couldn't run the bench on my EIZO CRT, i changed monitors and on my Mitsubishi CRT i got the following results
Graphics = Gainward 7600GS passive Stock speed
RED USER
Mar 30 2007, 11:02 AM
ATI MSI x1950xtx stock
SCORE : 16040
SA22C
Apr 2 2007, 04:30 PM
Well this makes me feel a bit better about my 7900 GTO. xBench had it running at around 160, which is quite a bit slower than my buddy's x1600 in his Macbook Pro. I'll be interested to see what his card gets in OpenMark. My result was a 23,557.
Click to view attachment
Korrupted
Apr 2 2007, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(consolation @ Mar 29 2007, 06:09 AM)


I'm surprised to see 7600GTs scoring higher then 7900GS' and very close to 7900GTs, I suspect something is very unwell with kext's responsible for 7900s.
I was running the benchmark in 1680x1050 resolution. The 7600GT was running in 1100x700 or something like that.
postaldave
Apr 2 2007, 05:45 PM
i really don't understand these numbers.
in consolation's post there is a 7600GT with a score of 16,040
and a 7600GS with a score of 10,396
but the GT was at 9 FPS
and theGS was 363 FPS
here is the part i don't understand, how does the GT get higher score
running 9FPS? that just doesn't make sense.
SA22C
Apr 2 2007, 05:55 PM
The FPS probably dropped when the screenshot was taken...
DiaboliK
Apr 2 2007, 06:22 PM
QUOTE(postaldave @ Apr 2 2007, 10:45 AM)

i really don't understand these numbers.
in consolation's post there is a 7600GT with a score of 16,040
and a 7600GS with a score of 10,396
but the GT was at 9 FPS
and theGS was 363 FPS
here is the part i don't understand, how does the GT get higher score
running 9FPS? that just doesn't make sense.
the bottom fps is just the fps thats currently going. if you used the tga that it output it would usally be 9fps.
screenshots will vary
ritalin
Apr 2 2007, 07:41 PM
So could we normalize the results somehow?
Normalized Result = (Width x Height x Depth x Score)/1000000000
Using that formula would give the following:
DaxTsurugi 7900GS
(1680 x 1050 x 32 x 15769)/1000000000
= 890
consolation 7600GT
(1440 x 900 x 32 x 16040)/1000000000
= 665
My Nvidia 6200 PCI
(1280 x 1024 x 32 x 5807)/1000000000
= 243
SA22C 7900 GTO
(1280 x 1024 x 32 x 23557)/1000000000
= 988
Does this make sense or am I talking crap?
SA22C
Apr 2 2007, 07:45 PM
That seems reasonable...
Korrupted
Apr 3 2007, 05:40 AM
That makes more sense now.
Zulu.Walker
Apr 3 2007, 12:21 PM
How about trying this out, also includes a nifty utility:
OpenGL Extensions ViewerIt would make things easier IMHO, and it's not as buggy/picky with GioFX's fullscreen problems. I can run the included benchmarks in all resolutions, also has AA/AF tests and GPU capabilities.
Maybe a
better Better OpenGL Benchmarking app?
consolation
Apr 3 2007, 01:45 PM
QUOTE(Zulu.Walker @ Apr 4 2007, 12:21 AM)

How about trying this out, also includes a nifty utility:
OpenGL Extensions ViewerIt would make things easier IMHO, and it's not as buggy/picky with GioFX's fullscreen problems. I can run the included benchmarks in all resolutions, also has AA/AF tests and GPU capabilities.
Maybe a
better Better OpenGL Benchmarking app?

Multi-Render tests will crash on some hackies using OG Extension viewer, I think it's still affected by screen resolution (display mode selection) + lod/aa settings it would be even more of a pita to standardize. We could all agree to bench @ a lowest common denominator (1024x768) or a common resolution (1280x1024). First option will work on any display, but gives old/low end card a deceptive advantage, second may not be possible on all displays. Ritalin's normalization method seems to provide results approximate to what you see in the real world.
if you are interested in how these compare to PPC macs
mid-rangehigh-end-you will need to register for the SDs site, but it's well worth the hassle.
consolation
Apr 3 2007, 03:01 PM
Actually - OpenMark seems reasonably resistant to resolution change, I benched at different resolutions:
1024x640= 655360pixels 16313
1440x900= 1296000pixels 16040
1280*1024=1310720pixels 16040
Doubling the pixels resulted in only a 1.7% drop; so the benchmarks at different resolutions are comparable.
Zulu.Walker
Apr 4 2007, 10:37 AM
So I guess it doesn't really matter what resolution you bench it on, it just calculates pure GPU processing power. Nice.
I'm liking this bench more. Let's forget about me suggesting OpenGL Extensions Viewer

And considering that the 7600GTs returned almost the same results (16040), makes it much more reliable than the other GPU benchmarks I know, even at different resolutions.
consolation
Apr 4 2007, 12:47 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like OGLE Viewer - it allows you a far more detailed look at your card's abilities than OM; especially in separating the abilities of newer and older cards etc etc... It's just that, for a "quick'n'dirty" overview of raw speed, it's a bit of an over-kill, IMHO.
I'd be interested to see the OGLE Viewer results for 7900s with high LOD/AA vs 7600GTs at same settings. I suspect the high core speed of the 7600GTs lets you draw a lot of relatively simple polygons but, once it has to process them more it should fall off relatively to the slower but more sophisticated high-end cards. That, or the kext just doesn't take advantage of those cards as it should - I'm speculating here...
P.S. A page I found very useful for card specs is:
http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm
Korrupted
Apr 4 2007, 08:45 PM
Kind of offtopic, but here's a screen I took of my results with my 7900 GS in the OGLE Viewer.
consolation
Apr 4 2007, 09:56 PM
QUOTE(DaxTsurugi @ Apr 5 2007, 08:45 AM)

Kind of offtopic, but here's a screen I took of my results with my 7900 GS in the OGLE Viewer.
Hmm... that's rather poor.
this is my 7600gt

Could you rerun your test with the following settings:
1280X1024X32 (60Hz) Display Mode
Tick multisample set to 4
Untick LOD, set slider to 0
Anistropy set to 16
Tick Use Fog
This the same GT with those settings
Korrupted
Apr 9 2007, 05:37 AM
consolation
Apr 9 2007, 07:23 AM
That's a lot more like the results you would expect.
Korrupted
Apr 9 2007, 07:31 AM
So the kexts aren't unbalanced then?
consolation
Apr 9 2007, 07:59 AM
QUOTE(DaxTsurugi @ Apr 9 2007, 07:31 PM)

So the kexts aren't unbalanced then?
I think they probably use the same kexts, I thought that maybe they are not taking full advantage of your card. Seem like they are; just that the 7600GT is really good at churning out simple polygons. But the (relative) small number of pixel/vertex shaders shows when you start processing the output more.
Linux-Kelvin
Apr 9 2007, 08:25 AM
This is the Benchmarks of my Hackintosh:
Display Card: Leadtek/Winfast PX7900GS TDH
1280X1024X32 (60Hz) Display Mode
Tick multisample set to 4
Untick LOD, set slider to 0
Anistropy set to 16
Tick Use Fog
SA22C
Apr 9 2007, 01:46 PM
Here's the results for my 7900 GTO 512 MB.
Test settings:
1280X1024X32 (60Hz) Display Mode
Tick multisample set to 4
Untick LOD, set slider to 0
Anistropy set to 16
Tick Use Fog
Click to view attachmentInteresting that the results are basically the same as the 7900GS in this test, but that my card pulls away quite handily in the OpenMark test, posting a score that is approximately 50% faster.
u1m2
Apr 17 2007, 02:50 AM
x1900xt crossfire edition, 512MB
Click to view attachment
lord xeon
Apr 17 2007, 02:57 AM
using the settings established above for OpenGL Extensions Viewer:
Display Mode: 1280 x 1024 x 33bpp (60Hz)
Framebuffer: Standard
untick
Multisample set slider to
4untick
LOD Bias set slider to
0tick
Antisotropy set slider to
16tic
Use Fogmy results are:

i have nVidia GeForce 7600 GT with 256 VRAM
consolation
Apr 17 2007, 12:11 PM
QUOTE(lord xeon @ Apr 17 2007, 02:57 PM)

using the settings established above for OpenGL Extensions Viewer:
Display Mode: 1280 x 1024 x 33bpp (60Hz)
Framebuffer: Standard
untick
Multisample set slider to
4untick
LOD Bias set slider to
0tick
Antisotropy set slider to
16tic
Use Fogmy results are:

i have nVidia GeForce 7600 GT with 256 VRAM
you are supposed to
tick Multisample ;-)
FavleX
Apr 17 2007, 03:54 PM
These are my results:
stock conditionsscore 294 with Open GL fsb=166score 373 with Open GLMy stupid question:changing the fsb at the boot influences the performance on the entire system as indicated , or the becnhmarks results are not real at all , 'cause the time is not set correctly ? ( I mean the clocktime is going slower)
lord xeon
Apr 17 2007, 04:41 PM
QUOTE(consolation @ Apr 17 2007, 08:11 AM)

you are supposed to tick Multisample ;-)
oops, thanks.
here are the real ones i guess:
consolation
Apr 18 2007, 10:34 AM
QUOTE(favalessa @ Apr 18 2007, 03:54 AM)

or the becnhmarks results are not real at all , 'cause the time is not set correctly ? ( I mean the clocktime is going slower)

yep that's the one. The bios sets your fsb, not the fsb=xxx switch. That only tells OS X what fsb it's running on. Now, if the real time is faster than the reported time, the benchmark will think the card did more "work" in a shorter period = inflated results.
FavleX
Apr 19 2007, 06:51 AM
thanks
consolation for clarification!
ok a bit
OT ,
Is it possible overclock from inside xp virtual (parallels) and after switch off it , having in the osx running a real overclock?
consolation
Apr 19 2007, 07:36 AM
QUOTE(favalessa @ Apr 19 2007, 06:51 PM)

thanks
consolation for clarification!
ok a bit
OT ,
Is it possible overclock from inside xp virtual (parallels) and after switch off it , having in the osx running a real overclock?

parallels runs a
virtual machine, XP won't see your real hardware.
tjarven
Apr 19 2007, 03:07 PM
The rigg is the computer in my signature.
GPU430/ MEM860Mhz clocked and voltmodded 1,4V
Click to view attachment
DiaboliK
Apr 24 2007, 05:56 AM
wohoo! new card!
XFX 7600GT Fatal1ty Fanless : natit dual v02 and 10.4.9 nvidia kexts all stock
openmark bench : 18000
Click to view attachment
Zulu.Walker
Apr 24 2007, 08:33 AM
Pretty fast card, a clear 2000 points over a stock 7600GT. What is it clocked at default? And it's even fanless... sweet.
DiaboliK
Apr 26 2007, 02:41 AM
QUOTE(Zulu.Walker @ Apr 24 2007, 01:33 AM)

Pretty fast card, a clear 2000 points over a stock 7600GT. What is it clocked at default? And it's even fanless... sweet.
I think stock core clock is 560mhz or 580mhz : and this cards core clock is 650mhz
the card's cooling is quite nice and adiquate but im gonna be lapping and polishing that it up to be a bit cooler.
RED USER
May 1 2007, 11:56 PM
This is my first time to do this test.So is this result ok and is higher FPS better or not?
Graphic card : ATI X1950XTX 512RAM but this test see my card as X1900 series.


Clayman
May 6 2007, 08:43 AM
Could it be that the ATI drivers perform much better in OSX right now than Nvidia Drivers?
Here are my NVIDIA 7900 GTO results - I'm using a Dual Screen Setup, 1st mon: 1280x1024@85, 2nd mon: 1440x900@60hz.

Still, the ATI results MacIntelrator posted are mucho better.
Also, I've been trying Maya on OSX86 and it's unbearably slow. Marking Menus take about 0.25 to 0.50 seconds to accept, nothing is instant, it just feels totally sluggish.
aqua-mac
May 6 2007, 02:06 PM
Specs are in my sig. 7900GTX flashed to Quadro FX 5500:
sarahbau
May 31 2007, 06:31 AM
Radeon X800 Stock
OpenMark final score: 9750
Sorry for no screenshot. It beach-balls at the end and never takes it.
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