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The Baron
QUOTE(munky @ Mar 12 2007, 10:48 PM) *
I'm going to do a clean JaS 10.4.8 install without selecting any video patches, then apply DiaboliK's new X1800 kext. (This is the install route he used).


Do you have a link on how to install the X1800 kext? I'm using the NeoPheus installer, but would like to help out with some testing to get sleep working.

TIA,

The Baron.
munky
The Baron: check your PM inbox wink.gif
munky
Update: did a clean JaS 10.4.8 (the SSE3 / SSE2 / AMD / Intel disc), installed DiaboliK's v2 NatitX1800. Machine sleeps but hangs on wake, with system fan running 100%. at least i think its the system fan, it might be the gpu fan...

will get Airport working, then will try to see if its network responsive.

after that i'm going to try an alternate kernel.

and after THAT, the next thing im tempted to try is installing apple's combo 10.4.8 update.... *sigh*
DiaboliK
hmm... sleepy part is a messup on my part!

it seems that ive been on the S1 mode of sleep not S3.

so here are my results from my 915gux with S3 sleep enabled:

semthex b8 : sleep but no wake from either mouse or power button (no power on light)
semthex b9 : sleep but no wake from either mouse or power button (no power on light)
Semthex fd21 : sleep but no wake from either mouse or power button (no power on light)
paulicat kernel : sleep but no wake from either mouse or power button (no power on light)

so im stemming it down to this 915gux mobo dosent like S3 sleep at all..... sad.gif
S1 works well tho!

as soon as i back up my data from my cube project i will switch dev. machines and work off of my commell lv-677 with a c2d t7200 and a sleeping and waking 7600GS..... (S3 mode i checked wink.gif)
(im going to dev for the X1300 and X1600, removing the 7600gs, of course)

sorry for the screwup and the bad new! (my bad, im sorry)
atho the new natit revisions work better than the old ones tongue.gif

Later I will post my findings on my cube and the ati's sleep and wake in S3 mode.

-DiaboliK
munky
LOL

Back to the drawing board, eh DiaboliK? smile.gif Thanks for your efforts anyway...
DiaboliK
QUOTE(munky @ Mar 13 2007, 02:43 AM) *
LOL

Back to the drawing board, eh DiaboliK? smile.gif Thanks for your efforts anyway...


yea, it sucks tho cause these ati cards are trashing my commell mobo.

the pci-e slot is starting to become loose. sad.gif

i cant afford to buy another one either, they are $350 bones a pop sad.gif

so its either stop development until i get a new mobo to dev on or go until my commell is dead.
i dunno....

-DiaboliK
munky
Ah... 10.4.9 is here, with updated drivers. There's a patched 10.4.9 kernel kicking around. Yet more opportunity for me to get my hopes up that wake will actually work.

We shall see... wink.gif
The Baron
QUOTE(munky @ Mar 14 2007, 12:01 PM) *
Ah... 10.4.9 is here, with updated drivers. There's a patched 10.4.9 kernel kicking around. Yet more opportunity for me to get my hopes up that wake will actually work.

We shall see... wink.gif


Yep, I'm going to wait until I have 4.9 up and running til I play around with sleeping. Interestingly, I my machine sleeps atm (I'm on 4.6, waiting to upgrade) without any vid drivers - network stops, drives stop etc, but screen remains - then when I click it all comes back to life. When I had 4.8 with Neo's ATI driver, sleep would shut down pc near instantly, video off, and a click would just be like turning the machine on, bios post etc.

I take it we are aiming for 'suspend to ram' then wake (everything) on mouse? Never used a real mac so don't know the details.
maccat
i dont know if it helps or if its even been said b4,

but my sleep works perfectly (and did from the get go) on a p4m890 chipset Mainboard (im not sure if this is the reason)

but i used to have a p4m800 and it didnt work, when i changed to the 890 pretty much everything worked great. thumbsup_anim.gif
WiZMaC
Guys,

Sleep/wake for both system and monitor work fine here both under 10.4.8 and 10.4.9 ...

All I had to do, with trial and error, was to use a DVI-A cable instead of a DVI-D cable and force the LCD panels to use DVI-A by setting the option to manual select and BAM- SLEEP works!!! I'm guessing it has something to do with PnP EDID data being read properly.

Using Neopheus's installer, without any patching, with 10.4.6 up'd to 10.4.8 and finally 10.4.9 using Paulicat's method. Check my signature for system specs =)

I hope this helps.
DiaboliK
okey doakie:

DiaboliK's 10.4.9 sleep test results: ATi x1600Pro 512mb pcie (all 1049 ATi kexts), commell lv-677 mobo, c2d t7200 (both cores enabled, alll kernels wink.gif)

monitor sleep dosent work til natit is applied. (no natit, no monitor turn off)

semthex b8, b9 and nd21 : sleep and no monitor wake on s3 mode (s1 works fine tho)
8.9.1 kernel : sleep and no monitor wake on s3 mode but s1 still works fine.
Paulicat SpeedStep kernel : same result as the other four kernels

still have yet to try the hpet 8.9.1 kernel tho. but i may think what the rusult may turn out to be.... the same sad.gif

anyone else?
-DiaboliK

*the semthex nd21 kernel is still way faster than the 8.9.1 non-hpet kernel, on non-rosetta. but you need 1048 system.kext for a few things wink.gif*

QUOTE(TeKKi @ Mar 15 2007, 01:26 AM) *
Guys,

Sleep/wake for both system and monitor work fine here both under 10.4.8 and 10.4.9 ...

All I had to do, with trial and error, was to use a DVI-A cable instead of a DVI-D cable and force the LCD panels to use DVI-A by setting the option to manual select and BAM- SLEEP works!!! I'm guessing it has something to do with PnP EDID data being read properly.

Using Neopheus's installer, without any patching, with 10.4.6 up'd to 10.4.8 and finally 10.4.9 using Paulicat's method. Check my signature for system specs =)

I hope this helps.


yea but me and munky are on vga. and the monitor is recognized by system profiler and has qe/ci, reschange and such but no wake from sleep.

also are you on s3 sleep mode or s1?

s1 sleep your monitor turns off but comes back on after sleep and with s3 it dosent.
so check your bios and tell me what you have.

-DiaboliK
WiZMaC
QUOTE(DiaboliK @ Mar 15 2007, 12:39 PM) *
yea but me and munky are on vga. and the monitor is recognized by system profiler and has qe/ci, reschange and such but no wake from sleep.

also are you on s3 sleep mode or s1?

s1 sleep your monitor turns off but comes back on after sleep and with s3 it dosent.
so check your bios and tell me what you have.

-DiaboliK


running s3 with HPET enabled for 64bit Platform.

I just tried switching back to DVI-D and my monitor won't wake but the system did. What's funny is that I'm actually running faster on DVI-A than DVI-D ... 163MHz compared to 132MHz

Forgot to mention:: running in extended mode- dual mons and both lcds are detected and configured automatically,,,
cyclonefr
im running anonymous HPET's 8.9.1 kernel and using S1 or S3 modes doesnt wake up from sleep
DiaboliK
QUOTE(TeKKi @ Mar 15 2007, 01:58 AM) *
running s3 with HPET enabled for 64bit Platform.

I just tried switching back to DVI-D and my monitor won't wake but the system did. What's funny is that I'm actually running faster on DVI-A than DVI-D ... 163MHz compared to 132MHz

Forgot to mention:: running in extended mode- dual mons and both lcds are detected and configured automatically,,,


what card are you running your ati or your nvidia?

my nvidia sleeps and wakes fine but not ati.
WiZMaC
QUOTE(DiaboliK @ Mar 15 2007, 05:35 PM) *
what card are you running your ati or your nvidia?

my nvidia sleeps and wakes fine but not ati.


both cards in my sig are working fine ... the cable issue applies to nvidia and ati.
munky
hmm... i did wonder if EDID might come into it. i'll plug my mbp in tonight and grab my Iiyama VM Pro 452's EDID data and try that in Natit.

thanks for the tip tekki / WizMac wink.gif
WiZMaC
No probs- I surely do hope your saga ends here =)

If my memory serves me right, all macs, excluding the old models, come with DVI ports and not analog- that could be the reason why you haven't been able to get your analog monitor to wake from sleep.... Sadly, my viewsonic monitors suffer from a DVI-D EDID problem - manufacturing defect, which lead me to believe now more than ever that PnP EDID is the culprit behind all this.

btw, I've witnessed the same issue on vista too.
Arcanis
Tried the new 10.4.9 kernel from netkas and my results are:

Dell Inspiron 6400, GMA950, Core Duo T2300:
- Closing the lid keeps the system awake, but screen doesn't go up after it opens.
- Sleep DOES work, I disabled safe sleep with sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0, and then sleep works just fine.

Desktop from my signature:
- S3 Sleep seems to work, but screen doesn't come up.
- Didn't try S1 Sleep.
munky
Acranis: try to get the EDID info for your monitor and put that into Natit. It might help, you never know wink.gif

QUOTE(munky)
WizMac: I did an ioreg -l | grep EDID on my hackintosh and got nothing. I wonder...

...or so i thought. i'm a fool - i forgot the -l. in fact, my EDID is being autodetected, so that cant be the problem. sad.gif
Arcanis
I think it's a driver problem.

Since on Windows i think it makes a call to the video drivers to do a "wake up" to the vga since for me it appears "R520LE BIOS 500/500" or something like that before booting into windows again.

I guess sleep works on the GMA950 because is the system most identical to a real mac and maybe Intel didnt bother in making an efi subsystem for it, and for the ATI cards when the computer wakes up the drivers are doing an EFI call to wake the card up, but our cards use BIOS, so it never wakes up.

Maybe with some magic from Natit someday we will have wake from sleep.
munky
But *some* ATI cards do wake, and some nVidia ones do too.
Fronobulax
And my GMA950 does not seem to wake...
Arcanis
@munky: Which ones? My X1800XL did not on a ECS 945G-M3 (945G chipset), even though the GMA950 from that chipset woke up from sleep fine, and on a Asus P5B Deluxe (965P) didn't woke up either. My laptop (Dell 6400 i945G-M based with GMA950 wakes up fine too).

@Fronobulax: Which are your system specs? Try on the terminal: "sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0" (without quotes) and then try sleep again.
munky
some X1600 cards are reported to sleep and wake correctly. see the borisbadenov thread for examples.
Kiko
My EAX1600XT works fine ( i bought it for that reason)
eberts
Sleep (S3) works now after updating to 10.4.9 with 8.9.1 kernel using netkas instructions. Monitor wakes up again.
Only problem is usb. I have to unplug keyboard. My mouse is conected to the apple-keyboard. After plugging in both work again.

Edit: I even got rotation now for my 7300GT
carpao
QUOTE(eberts @ Mar 21 2007, 12:56 PM) *
Sleep (S3) works now after updating to 10.4.9 with 8.9.1 kernel using netkas instructions.
Edit: I even got rotation now for my 7300GT


so upgrading to 10.4.9 is usefull to obtain a "working sleep"... or did you succeded with 10.4.8 too

and about rotating... how did you obtain it?
eberts
QUOTE(carpao @ Mar 21 2007, 02:50 PM) *
so upgrading to 10.4.9 is usefull to obtain a "working sleep"... or did you succeded with 10.4.8 too

and about rotating... how did you obtain it?


Sorry, don't know what exactly has changed. S3-Sleep used to work until 10.4.8. In 4.8 I tried different semthex/mifki kernels - no success. Now in 4.9 it works again, maybe it's due to the several kexts that have been updated, maybe it's cause of the new kernel or maybe both...
As of rotation, I can't say either. Probably because of the new nvidia drivers apple included. I didn't apply Natit_Uni again after the update, it worked right afterwards (with rotation).

Sorry, I know this doesn't help a lot - just wanted to report that it works again. angel.png
enb14
Guys I've tested 10.4.9 and as before I can only wake up if I use an IDE HDD, if I use an SATA it doesn't wakes up, now for first time ever I have the problem that when I use the IDE hard drive and it wakes up I have to unplug and replug my USB keyboard and mouse.

P4 650 3.4GHz, D945GNTL, 1GB RAM. 500GB SATA, eVGA 7900 GT CO, Titan for nvidia.

So still to me I still have the same problem I always had, does somebody else have tried using SATA and IDE to see if they are in my same situation?
mobile2go
QUOTE(Eskurza @ Mar 9 2007, 09:38 PM) *
I can confirm that Hibernation works with the 8.4.1 kernel


What did you do to get your PCMCIA slot working?

I have a Aspire 5610z with a ENE Tech card bus and I can't find anything anywhere on this forum to get it to work.
Eskurza
I have a Aspire 5610z with a ENE Tech card bus and I can't find anything anywhere on this forum to get it to work.
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Use the attached kexts, drop them to your Extensions folder.. chown, chmod.. reboot


Click to view attachment
prspectiv2
QUOTE(munky @ Mar 12 2007, 06:48 PM) *
So i'm now convinced that the GPU is hanging on S3 resume, and that this is the cause of my problems.


I think you're right. I've followed this thread while trying to fix S3 sleep on my own box with moderate success, so I thought I should share these results. One observation I made early on is that almost no one in this thread (and the related cpu throttle/sleep thread) is running a Core 2 system and no one has my motherboard or graphics card (see my sig for system profile). In my situation certain bios settings have everything to do with getting this to work. Bare with me...

After installing 10.4.8 sse3 semthex 8.8.1 and getting my audio & lan working plus display modes my first attempt to sleep from the menu bar results in:

System falls asleep
System locks while waking up
Black screen with VGA readout at top left "113-A9902-108 RV570 BIOS 702m/581e"

Same result if energy saver puts computer to sleep. Went into bios and noticed following settings:

Vanderpool - disabled
XD bit - disabled
MPS - ver 1.1 (instead of 1.4)
Recall VGA BIOS from S3 - yes

After some tinkering I found that if Vanderpool is disabled and XD is enabled (or vice versa) the screen will turn off and computer will lockup when trying to sleep. The same thing happens when both Vanderpool and XD are enabled and MPS is set to 1.1.


I had slight success with this setting:

Vanderpool: enabled
XD: enabled
MPS version: 1.4
Recall VGA BIOS from S3: yes

The computer will sleep and wake with all USB devices functional, but the screen resumes at a very-low resolution (640x480 maybe?) and flashes between top left desktop and plain blue background. Mouse and keyboard work and I can run programs and attempt to switch screen resolutions, which blanks the screen for a moment but does not fix anything. Sometimes the flashes stop and the desktop disappears for no apparent reason, forcing me to hard reboot. Also, this phenomenon is not consistently reproducible. Sometimes the computer doesn't even go into sleep mode. But, if it does reach sleep the low-res flickering desktop thing happens at wake.


Finally I have a useable S3 with these settings:

Vanderpool: Enabled
XD: Enabled
MPS version: 1.4
Recall VGA BIOS from S3: no

With those settings the computer will sleep and wake with all USB devices AND the desktop appears with the right resolution! All applications appear and I can drag and resize windows and use menus. Almost perfect except some windows apppear to not refresh correctly. For example, time counter on itunes is frozen while music plays. Also, menu items don't highlight in blue during mouseover. Killing Finder seems to fix these issues. Also also the fan on my X1950 Pro blows loudly after wake, just as it does when my computer first boots and before the card realizes it's not running hot. Finally after wake I can shut the computer off but if I try to restart it OSX closes everything up and hangs.

I think if I could re-initialize the graphics card after wake then everything would be perfect, but I don't know how to do that.

In any case, I hope some of this long and rambling account helps someone smarter than I to solve the sleep problem
mobile2go
QUOTE(Eskurza @ Mar 22 2007, 04:47 PM) *
I have a Aspire 5610z with a ENE Tech card bus and I can't find anything anywhere on this forum to get it to work.
Use the attached kexts, drop them to your Extensions folder.. chown, chmod.. reboot
Click to view attachment


Thanks for the file but it didn't work, I copied and chmod and repaired permissions and deleted the kext cache and all it did was crash my perfectly running (other than pcmcia) system with kernel panics so I had to reinstall and start all over again.
Eskurza
QUOTE(mobile2go @ Mar 22 2007, 04:28 PM) *
Thanks for the file but it didn't work, I copied and chmod and repaired permissions and deleted the kext cache and all it did was crash my perfectly running (other than pcmcia) system with kernel panics so I had to reinstall and start all over again.


Sorry to hear that bro.. U could have just deleted them in single user mode though whistle.gif

What is the device id of your adapter.. I am pretty sure it is the same adapter though..
which version are you running? which kernel?

Click to view attachment
joe75
My 7600GS, 5700LE and X800XT work fine with sleep for all new kernels tongue.gif

Something weird with new 8.9 on my gma950, sleep works for like 5 or 10 min, after that it wont wake rolleyes.gif
mobile2go
QUOTE(Eskurza @ Mar 23 2007, 01:54 AM) *
Sorry to hear that bro.. U could have just deleted them in single user mode though whistle.gif

Hi,

What is the device id of your adapter.. I am pretty sure it is the same adapter though..
which version are you running? which kernel?

This is what I got from windows, it's ENE CB 712/714/810 Cardbus 1524 DEV_1412

Thanks!
DanteDrac
I have the exact same cardbus ENE 712/714/810. I will give your extensions a shot.
mobile2go
QUOTE(DanteDrac @ Mar 23 2007, 04:52 AM) *
I have the exact same cardbus ENE 712/714/810. I will give your extensions a shot.


I'm using the latest Jas 10.4.8 Intel Amd with darwin 8.8.1 kernel.
mobile2go
QUOTE(DanteDrac @ Mar 23 2007, 04:52 AM) *
I have the exact same cardbus ENE 712/714/810. I will give your extensions a shot.

Hi,

Do you have any suggestions on how to get my card bus working?

I tried it again and this time I booted back up without errors but I lost my airport so I replaced the kext with my originals rebooted and my airport came back.

I'm puzzeled, also I'm using the latest Jas 10.4.8 Intel Amd with darwin 8.8.1 kernel.
Kiko
Please guys, this is about Wake From Sleep, not your card bus :/
munky
Kiko: you mentioned your X1600 sleeps and wakes ok? Can you post the result of this:


ioreg -l -w0 >file.txt

and post the file.txt please?

thx
Kiko
Sure, i'll post my imacs first, then my working pc when i get to it (a day or two)


iMac:
rparker
I have a Nvidia 7600GT with Diabolik's dual natit installer. When I sleep using the menu option, and then wake I get a black screen with a mouse pointer. If I swap out the Dvi to the other port (Dual Dvi Card), I can see the desktop but its frozen.

If I let the computer sleep on its own, and then wake almost immediately, It works fine. If I leave it for long, it doesn't boot at all.

I know there were some mentions on how Nvidia cards should sleep and wake properly, so I'm wondering where mine is going wrong.
munky
thx kiko
Abysmal
My Hack have a d945GTPLKR board with a D930 @ 3.02 / 1 Gig Ram / x1300 256 meg card / 2 sata hd's ( 250 Gig / 80 Gig ) / onboard sound..

Jas 10.4.8 ppf1 -> Apple Update to 10.4.9 with 8.9.1 kernel manually updated..

My hack sleeps fine (S3 Deep sleep - monitor off / unit off ) and the only issue I have is that when it come back from sleep the usb mouse/keyboard must be manually reset (unplug/replug) I am assuming that the usb ports are not being reset properly..

Hey Munky.. is this what you get?? and am I right about the onboard ports being reset or not reset??

Abysmal
enb14
QUOTE(Abysmal @ Mar 27 2007, 08:18 AM) *
My Hack have a d945GTPLKR board with a D930 @ 3.02 / 1 Gig Ram / x1300 256 meg card / 2 sata hd's ( 250 Gig / 80 Gig ) / onboard sound..

Jas 10.4.8 ppf1 -> Apple Update to 10.4.9 with 8.9.1 kernel manually updated..

My hack sleeps fine (S3 Deep sleep - monitor off / unit off ) and the only issue I have is that when it come back from sleep the usb mouse/keyboard must be manually reset (unplug/replug) I am assuming that the usb ports are not being reset properly..

Hey Munky.. is this what you get?? and am I right about the onboard ports being reset or not reset??

Abysmal


Abysmal are you loading OSX from your 80GB SATA or from your 250GB SATA?
jacob019
For people who can't use sleep, I've created a program which may be useful.

Check it out here:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=46645
newelement
QUOTE(Abysmal @ Mar 27 2007, 10:18 AM) *
My Hack have a d945GTPLKR board with a D930 @ 3.02 / 1 Gig Ram / x1300 256 meg card / 2 sata hd's ( 250 Gig / 80 Gig ) / onboard sound..

Jas 10.4.8 ppf1 -> Apple Update to 10.4.9 with 8.9.1 kernel manually updated..

My hack sleeps fine (S3 Deep sleep - monitor off / unit off ) and the only issue I have is that when it come back from sleep the usb mouse/keyboard must be manually reset (unplug/replug) I am assuming that the usb ports are not being reset properly..

Hey Munky.. is this what you get?? and am I right about the onboard ports being reset or not reset??

Abysmal


I have the same board and I have the same USB problem when it tries to sleep. I'm using the onboard video, Intel 950.
Abysmal
QUOTE(enb14 @ Mar 27 2007, 01:07 PM) *
Abysmal are you loading OSX from your 80GB SATA or from your 250GB SATA?


I have 10.4.8 booting on the 250 and 10.4.9 booting off of the 80.. why??
enb14
QUOTE(Abysmal @ Mar 30 2007, 08:26 AM) *
I have 10.4.8 booting on the 250 and 10.4.9 booting off of the 80.. why??


Because I think that maybe the hard drive size would be an issue too.

my IDE hard drive is 40GB and my SATA is 500GB, and I can only sleep and wake up from my IDE hard drive.

Also I'm using Titan but when I check the video card and monitor on System Preferences I can see my video card and my monitor but it says that my monitor is not connected.
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