midknightr
Dec 14 2007, 09:35 PM
cloudrainstar
I don't know if you were replying to me with your last post, but I tried your fix. Didn't work for me
Obsydian
Dec 20 2007, 07:16 AM
cloudrainstar: your daemon is working for me with efi. My Mac tablet is almost complete.
However, TabletMagic seems to be detecting the tablet's horizontal resolution incorrectly. Vertically, the cursor tracks right where it should be. Vertically, the cursor get progressively farther to the right of the pen as I approach the right side of the screen. It is approximately correct on the left side.
It seems TabletMagic doesn't support the 16:10 aspect ratio Tecra M7, as the reported tablet resolution is 4:3.
hoshino
Dec 21 2007, 11:00 PM
been experiencing the same screwed up horizontal alignment for ages with tablet magic. Used Khashoggi's daemon for basic use and was fine until leopard install.
Toshiba R20 WACF004
electric dragon
Dec 22 2007, 07:04 PM
i had the horizontal problem described above also.
i solved it by noting that when TM detects the tablet, it reports a unique resolution under the Don't Query field. i have a toshiba r25, which has screen dimensions of 1440x900.
since the vertical dimension seemed to be tracking the pen input just fine, i divided the reported number by 900 and got a value of about 21. i then multiplied this by 1440 to get my horizontal resolution value.
the trick is to disable the demon for a second, then type the values into the boxes under the Don't Query checkbox. Then restart the demon. Switch to the (calibration?) tab and click the ALL button for the pen input dimensions and the pen input should snap into place....
Once you get it working it should stay calibrated. Make sure Tablet Magic is set to start at bootup and reboot. You should have full calibrated control of the cursor with the pen as soon as the system draws the cursor....
Sorry if my description is a bit vague, I am not booted into Tablet Mac at the moment.
Obsydian
Dec 23 2007, 12:08 AM
I can't get that method to work. Are you running 2b11 in Leopard? There are tablet resolution settings on the first tab, but they are all grayed out...
carpao
Dec 23 2007, 05:45 PM
I just installed Kalyway leopard with efi and vanilal kernel.
I modified the Apple16x59Serial.kext/.... as in Tiger putting WACF004 in the same place...
but it seems that the serial is not recognized... Some ideas?
I installed the last version of tablet magic and clearly it does not work because it does not detect any serial *in the menu there is only the "Automatic" voice..
please help me... because I-m too used to the pen and would not return to tiger... Leopard seems to work very well...
electric dragon
Dec 23 2007, 07:54 PM
i had trouble getting 11b to recognize the tablet so i rolled back to rev. 10 and it worked. then it kept working after i upgraded to 11b. so maybe try 10 first, then 11....
i am running uphuck 10.4.9 intel on toshiba R25-s305, WACF004 address....
carpao
Dec 23 2007, 09:32 PM
uhm... I'm talking of leopard not tiger...
electric dragon
Dec 23 2007, 10:22 PM
i came across too many posts about Leopard disabling the tablet functionality to try upgrading yet. (also running out of disk space to try different system installs so I am sticking with stable 10.4.9 for now.)
i expect i will get new drive space for xmas and after that will try upgrading to Leopard....
in the meantime did you try cloudrainstar's daemon in the above posts?
Obsydian
Dec 24 2007, 03:14 AM
Its EFI, not Leopard. It is no longer detected as a hackintosh, so TabletMagic doesn't recognize it. I used the daemon that cloudrainstar posted a few above here, and Leopard sees the tablet with 2b11.
carpao
Dec 24 2007, 05:43 AM
In my case I think that it is not that the problem...
I repeat that in my case it is not detected the serial itself... by leo non by tabletmagic
cloudrainstar
Dec 24 2007, 05:57 AM
Be sure to use 10.5.1, I couldn't get the serial port of the tablet to be recognized under 9A527
carpao
Dec 24 2007, 07:52 AM
uhm...
news: now I have the serial... but i'm not sure about the reason...
I booted one time with the tohkernel instead of vanilla and the serial ... was there
after that i booted again with the vanilla kernel... and it was still there :-D
but I'm not sure that bit was that...... however I'm happy now... :-D
Condor5
Dec 27 2007, 01:57 PM
Carpao
I'm having the same problem with my M400, if you're using Kalyway's how did you boot with tohkernel? Is it part of Kalyway's DVD?
Edit: I found tohkernel and I'm going to try your method..
carpao
Dec 28 2007, 03:30 PM
I saw your message only now...
let me know if it was helpful for you too...
otherwise we could explore other differences...
asokanon
Dec 30 2007, 08:33 AM
I hope that I am not simply stating that which has already been realized, but I have not seen this specific solution explicitly defined so I thought I would share my experiences.
I have a Fujitsu T4215 running the iAtkos v1.0i release of leopard. I have everthing except the wireless working, with the exception of one small irritant that the speakers stop working when I wake the laptop from sleep...I can live with it. I decided that I wanted to make the tablet work, so I started messing with tablet magic. I tried all sorts of things as mentioned in this post, and none of them really worked, so I decided to do a fresh install and trouble shoot until I could figure it out.
First I edited the plist file to reflect my fujitsu and it was not recognized. Then all I ended up needing to do was install the pen tablet drivers from wacom. They didnt detect a tablet, or do anything really...but as soon as they were installed serial0 showed up in tabletmagic and the thing works great. I have tested this twice now to make sure that it was not a fluke, and it always works: Edit the plist file, install wacom drivers, tablet works.
Again I appologize if I just happened to miss this somewhere, but I thought I should share this with the group.
P.S. I feel I should mention that when I say I have everything but the wireless working, I have not tested the sd card reader or the cardbus slot...all I have to put there is an old Echo audio card or a friewire card, (which I do desperately need, so I guess that is my next goal)...also, I am installed on guid partitions, and time machine works to back up to, but I cannot restore the system from it...just in case anyone was interested...
hoshino
Dec 31 2007, 02:49 AM
Okay, I got rid of the wrong Horizontal tracking. All is good
First Killed Daemon. Then under the "Testings" tab I found the Length&Width coordinates of the tablet (X,Y positions (24570,18430)) Then under the extra's tab I put the numbers into the "Don't query boxes", keep selected. Enabled the Daemon and everything worked. No more wonky horizontal alignment.
Thanks , I assume for drawing/painting it is still a little ways off? Tried photoshop, sketchpad pro, gimp, all to slow. Gimp would just crash.
Bronxmad
Jan 3 2008, 10:41 PM
Is anyone using an USB <=> Serial cabble ? Mine isnt working... I have an UD-1218-R and the cable is Konig Computer's brand (USB to RS232 converter). Is that cabble that I need, right?
Thank you all!
Scott Lahteine
Jan 4 2008, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(Bronxmad @ Jan 3 2008, 05:41 PM)

Is anyone using a USB <=> Serial cable? Mine isn't working... I have a UD-1218-R and the cable is Konig Computer's brand (USB to RS232 converter). Is that cable that I need, right?
Did you install a driver?? You can't just plug in a generic usb-serial adapter and expect it to work without any driver software. Use Google to figure out what chipset your adapter uses and download and install the appropriate driver. Look at the ReadMe file that comes with TabletMagic for advice on drivers for generic serial adapters. Good luck!
steeple
Jan 4 2008, 12:28 PM
i wonder what type of driver software those "modbook" mac tablets are using for their wacom digitisers (
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ModBook )
i'd
love to have a poke around inside one of their system folders!
sadly they won't sell to people outside the U.S.
Condor5
Jan 4 2008, 06:01 PM
Carpao
I booted with Toh kernel and then replaced it with the vanilla one and rebooted. Now serial 0 shows up in the setup pane of TabletMagic ( a step forward, your method seems to be working) but the daemon still can't find a tablet on my M400. Did you tweak any other settings apart from the obvious WACF004 addition to Apple16X50Serial.kext?
Like you I had the tablet working great with OSX 10.4.10
Megamixman
Jan 4 2008, 06:46 PM
steeple, i think the modbook uses a USB digitizer. In which case the official Wacom drivers would take care of it. The reason we need this is because Tablet PC manufacturers used the serial digitizers and Wacom doesn't support serial tablets on their mac drivers.
steeple
Jan 4 2008, 07:00 PM
QUOTE(Megamixman @ Jan 4 2008, 07:46 PM)

steeple, i think the modbook uses a USB digitizer. In which case the official Wacom drivers would take care of it. The reason we need this is because Tablet PC manufacturers used the serial digitizers and Wacom doesn't support serial tablets on their mac drivers.
ah, right it never occurred to me they were using usb...actually is that definite, 'cause they'd have to source a usb lcd/digitizer panel, and i thought they were using standard wacom tablet pc panels?
Megamixman
Jan 5 2008, 05:26 AM
you can use a usb or serial digitizer with the panel. It's like the controller board for LCD panels. There isn't ONE single controller that goes with a panel, but rather they are standards off which the controllers also are based on and thus can be interchanged within a limited range. So the same Touch panels that the tablet pc's use can be hooked up with wacom usb digitizers and ding!
steeple
Jan 5 2008, 05:33 AM
QUOTE(Megamixman @ Jan 5 2008, 06:26 AM)

you can use a usb or serial digitizer with the panel. It's like the controller board for LCD panels. There isn't ONE single controller that goes with a panel, but rather they are standards off which the controllers also are based on and thus can be interchanged within a limited range. So the same Touch panels that the tablet pc's use can be hooked up with wacom usb digitizers and ding!
aah, i see, thanks for the info though.
Scott Lahteine
Jan 5 2008, 10:40 AM
QUOTE(Condor5 @ Jan 4 2008, 01:01 PM)

I booted with Toh kernel and then replaced it with the vanilla one and rebooted ... the daemon still can't find a tablet on my M400.
Depending on your kernel and your machine the "Machine Type" string that comes from gestalt() may be other than those TabletMagic currently knows about. TabletMagic 2.0b11 only recognizes "ACPI", "ADP", and "Lifebook" as Hackintosh systems. Newer builds of the kernel use different strings, and this will continue to apply in future versions.
To address this change, the next release of TabletMagic won't look for a positive Machine Type match, but will instead assume that any nonstandard Machine Type is a Hackintosh. The known strings are defined in a common header as:
CODE
#define KNOWN_MACHINES {"AAPL","iMac","PowerBook","PowerMac","RackMac","Macmini","MacBookPro","MacBook"}
Anything not included in this list will be assumed to be a Hackintosh.
As I'm currently traveling, I won't have the next release ready until the end of January.
Condor5
Jan 5 2008, 01:24 PM
QUOTE(Scott Lahteine @ Jan 5 2008, 01:40 PM)

Depending on your kernel and your machine the "Machine Type" string that comes from gestalt() may be other than those TabletMagic currently knows about. TabletMagic 2.0b11 only recognizes "ACPI", "ADP", and "Lifebook" as Hackintosh systems. Newer builds of the kernel use different strings, and this will continue to apply in future versions.
To address this change, the next release of TabletMagic won't look for a positive Machine Type match, but will instead assume that any nonstandard Machine Type is a Hackintosh. The known strings are defined in a common header as:
CODE
#define KNOWN_MACHINES {"AAPL","iMac","PowerBook","PowerMac","RackMac","Macmini","MacBookPro","MacBook"}
Anything not included in this list will be assumed to be a Hackintosh.
As I'm currently traveling, I won't have the next release ready until the end of January.
Many thanks for your reply Scott, your help and efforts are much appreciated. I'm definitely looking forward to the next release!
Bronxmad
Jan 7 2008, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(Scott Lahteine @ Jan 4 2008, 11:09 AM)

Did you install a driver?? You can't just plug in a generic usb-serial adapter and expect it to work without any driver software. Use Google to figure out what chipset your adapter uses and download and install the appropriate driver. Look at the ReadMe file that comes with TabletMagic for advice on drivers for generic serial adapters. Good luck!
Yes, Scoot... I installed the drivers from the cd and I read the "Read me" file. But the cd came with 4 folders (USB 1.1 TO RS232 Cable, USB 2.0 All in 1 Card Reader, USB 2.0 TO IDE&SATA ADAPTER, USB 2.0 TO RS232 Cable) I installed the USB 2.0 TO RS232 Cable... Am I doing right?
The problem migth be in the power of my USB ports... Does anyone knows how to solve my problem? I tried all the USB ports of my notebook...
psychoboogie
Jan 14 2008, 02:15 AM
running kalyway 10.5.1 on motion le1700. before I ran it checked that acpi was WACF004
everything booted up fine after install
changed the info.plist to reflect wacf004
and installed tabletmagic b11
running the daemon direct brings up
Could not initialize tablet.
[ERR ] Fatal Error: No Wacom Tablet Found!
logout
tried running Khashoggi Tablet Daemon and also replacing deamon from this post and running b10 but no dice.
anyone have any additional thoughts. So want this to work..
thx.
ioreg attached
psychoboogie
Jan 14 2008, 06:55 PM
so reran kalyway, non-vanilla, just for fun.
still don't see any tablet reference in ioreg... checked in xp control panel before I began the process and it was wacf004. Not sure how to enable it.
midknightr
Jan 16 2008, 01:15 AM
Seeing the modbook stuff from apple world or whatever its called makes me want this to work on my X60 Tablet Hackintosh
psychoboogie
Jan 16 2008, 03:09 AM
x60 not working? have you tried?
same here, was just looking at modbook tablet gallery. want the motion to work. anyone....?
Megamixman
Jan 16 2008, 06:50 PM
Works fine on my X60...
You have to edit the Serial Kext
Then use the latest TabletMagic and it will work fine
psychoboogie
Jan 17 2008, 03:53 PM
yeah, did it and it just doesn't see the wacom. someone has x60 here dying to try it out, but they are out of town.
midknightr
Jan 18 2008, 10:46 PM
People keep telling me that, but I have done that and it doesn't work?
Megamixman-
Maybe if you told me exactly what you did, I would see my error.
QUOTE(Megamixman @ Jan 16 2008, 10:50 AM)

Works fine on my X60...
You have to edit the Serial Kext
Then use the latest TabletMagic and it will work fine
deecay
Jan 19 2008, 02:26 PM
QUOTE(midknightr @ Jan 18 2008, 04:46 PM)

People keep telling me that, but I have done that and it doesn't work?
Megamixman-
Maybe if you told me exactly what you did, I would see my error.
On the same boat here. Also a ThinkPad X60T user, and was very impressed by having OSX 10.5.1 running on it. It would be totally awesome if someone can lay out what it means to "edit the Serial Kext". Much appreciated!
Yesterday was my first day of using MacOSX Leopard so I still haven't found a way to control screen brightness and use WiFi. But the environment is stable and fast enough that I will continue dual boot between XP and OSX. Thanks for everyone who contributed to the scene.
Any blog for X60T OSX user?
Deecay
X60Guru
Jan 19 2008, 03:48 PM
QUOTE(Megamixman @ Jan 16 2008, 06:50 PM)

Works fine on my X60...
You have to edit the Serial Kext
Then use the latest TabletMagic and it will work fine
Hi Megamixman
Can you please give us mere mortals a step by step guide on how to get the X60 Tablet PC's wacom digitizer pen working
Pretty Please

Thanks
deecay
Jan 19 2008, 04:04 PM
QUOTE(X60Guru @ Jan 19 2008, 09:48 AM)

Hi Megamixman
Can you please give us mere mortals a step by step guide on how to get the X60 Tablet PC's wacom digitizer pen working
Pretty Please
Thanks
Man, so many desperate X60T user here.
However, I suddenly realize something: there are two types of X60T digitizer: regular version and MultiTouch version. I am using a MultiTouch version, and my code is WACF008 . Now I realized how to modify the serial file: "/System/Library/Extensions/Apple16X50Serial.kext/Contents/PlugIns/Apple16X50ACPI.kext/Contents/Info.plist" . Reboot and still didn't get my digitizer recognized (the same old "Tablet: No Tablet Found"). Could it be that most
X60T users who have problems are all using the Multitouch version.
Any X60T with MultiTouch user who have their X60T running well with TabletMagic?
Deecay
cloudrainstar
Jan 19 2008, 07:35 PM
For people who can't get their serial port detected...
I find that leopard is a bit weird with kexts, and if you just edit them in then /System/Extensions.. The OS won't load the changes.
Try copying the whole Apple16X50Serial.kext to the desktop, delete the one in the extensions, reboot, then put it back in, repair permissions, and reboot again.
midknightr
Jan 20 2008, 05:59 PM
Yeah, I'm multitouch too.
Megamixman
Jan 20 2008, 08:47 PM
QUOTE(deecay @ Jan 19 2008, 08:04 AM)

Man, so many desperate X60T user here.
However, I suddenly realize something: there are two types of X60T digitizer: regular version and MultiTouch version. I am using a MultiTouch version, and my code is WACF008 . Now I realized how to modify the serial file: "/System/Library/Extensions/Apple16X50Serial.kext/Contents/PlugIns/Apple16X50ACPI.kext/Contents/Info.plist" . Reboot and still didn't get my digitizer recognized (the same old "Tablet: No Tablet Found"). Could it be that most
X60T users who have problems are all using the Multitouch version.
Any X60T with MultiTouch user who have their X60T running well with TabletMagic?
Deecay
The key is to re chown and chmod the WHOLE kext, then delete Extensions.mkext as well as the Caches folder. Then reboot. This will make sure that the modified Info.plist is loaded correctly. I do believe that multi touch just adds another serial line for touch sensitivity. Whether or not that line can also be tapped, i don't know.
Will I post step by step guides? No. Besides the basics, you shouldn't need a step by step guide. Go back to the basics and everything SHOULD make sense. Either way, the serial kext and how to edit it have been discussed in this forum, either in this topic or the one of khagasshi's tablet daemon.
midknightr
Jan 21 2008, 04:08 AM
Seems like the dual touch is all through wac8. Doesn't look seperate, so maybe that actually is the problem. I've done the kext chowning and mkext deleting stuff.
psychoboogie
Jan 21 2008, 09:47 PM
cloudrainstar you rock. motion tablet enabled. so sweet.
rock...
kteljenkins
Jan 22 2008, 08:56 PM
thanks to cloudrainstar's modified daemon on tablet magicc, I finally got this to work, on a R20 with 10.5.1 kalyway running on it. Now I need to sort out the tracking/mapping on it. Thanks to all involved for writing and submitting all this info, my fingers next trip is to that donate button.
thanks again
Kenny
kteljenkins
Jan 23 2008, 07:46 PM
So now that it is actually working, my tracking is really off kilter, and I don't understand what I can do to modify it. As others earlier in the thread have mentioned, it starts out ok on the left side of the screen, but as I move the pen across the screen, it drifts further and further from the tip area to about 2-3 inches askew from its pointer.
Looking at the current version of tablet magic, I don't understand how any of the provided controls would modify this result, so I am at a loss. My screen resolution is 1440 x 900
thanks for any help or pointers, I didn't know if I should be trying something else.
Kenny
cloudrainstar
Jan 23 2008, 09:07 PM
see post #145 (http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=43948&st=140#) for the solution to the tracking problem
kteljenkins
Jan 23 2008, 09:59 PM
thanks for the quick reply tip, I saw that [read it a few nights ago, then promptly forgot it when it wouldnt initially work]
and I will give it a tryout.
thanks for getting back to me!
Kenny
deecay
Jan 24 2008, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(kteljenkins @ Jan 22 2008, 02:56 PM)

thanks to cloudrainstar's modified daemon on tablet magicc, I finally got this to work, on a R20 with 10.5.1 kalyway running on it. Now I need to sort out the tracking/mapping on it. Thanks to all involved for writing and submitting all this info, my fingers next trip is to that donate button.
thanks again
Kenny
I also tried cloudrainstar's modified daemon (
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...948&st=140# , Dec 10 2007, 01:09 AM, Post #150 ) on my Lenovo ThinkPad X60T MultiTouch edition. I got the new entry "serial0" in the Port dropdown list. I also got the Tablet being recognized as "ISD V4.0 (Tablet PC)" (showing up on the MagicTablet preference page). However, when I use my Wacom pen to touch the screen, I got no response. I also try using my finger to touch the screen, and got the same nothing happening result. Does anyone have the same experience?
Or should I try "WACF004" instead of "WACF008"?
Deecay
outZider
Jan 24 2008, 10:07 PM
Chalk one up for an X61T user, changed to 004, still no serial port detected, even with a manual kextload. Anyone with a X61t that /works/?
kteljenkins
Jan 24 2008, 10:12 PM
beats me, mines not a touchscreen style one, I'd check to make sure I had a wacom style digitizer in the first place, and then use the device manager in windows to find out whether its a F004 or what [mine was]
sorry I can't be of more help. but I reformatted mine to add a vista partition and screwed the pooch. [heh]
so I am still on the re-install jag
Kenny
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