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jodo
Nääh...I'm unlucky sad.gif Same result like before: Grey apple screen + stopped spinning wheel and movable mouse arrow....could I give you any details?
Slice
I have a good report about AGPGart243.

Jodo! I need details to help you.
Boot with -v -s then type
/sbin/fsck -fy
/sbin/mount -uw
sh /etc/rc
wait and press Ctrl-C
dmesg >dmesgJODO.txt
ioreg -l -x -w 1024 >ioregJODO.txt
rm -r -v /S*/L*/E*/ATIRadeon8500.kext
reboot
Upload these files. It is good idea to zip its.
manolazza
Hi to All,
i'm very newbie about that.
But i have some problem to start OSX86 Kalyway 10.4.10 sse2 in my IBM Think pad R50

Centrino M1.5 with ATI 9000 (4c66) and AGP 82855

I have tried wit Callisto 08 and AGP 2.1 but I have a screenproblem.
when it startd will appear small orizontal white lines.

AGP Nonloaded and Callisto load ATI8500 .


Some one are able to help me ?

Thank you

Manolazza
DJ HORA
manolazza,

you should try callisto b6 and the agpgart 2.4.3 in post #249. with those u should be able to change resolutions but no QE/CI ATM...

or u should try to remove callisto and use only agpgart 2.4.3 with ATIRadeon8500.kext...
if u have any sucess with QE/CI with the second option Above, Tell us!!!
manolazza
Thankyou for your Quick Reply

I will try this night tongue.gif
manolazza
OK Guys

I have finally complete the installation of my Ati 9000 with 32mb.

In Kalyway 10.40.10 i have installed
AGPGart 2.2
Calisto 03Fixed

Configured CallistoHal with the value 4c66
Configured ATIRadeon.8500 with CallistoFB

Thank to All now is woking.
P.S. NO CI and QE but with this Hardware i think is ok.

Thanks to your support.

Manolazza
Slice
AGPGart dowloaded 41 times and no feedback!

2manolazza
QUOTE
P.S. NO CI and QE but with this Hardware i think is ok

Where is any report? XBench test?
Can you play DVD? Play chess?
Why you use AGPGart 2.2? Reasons?
I need information censored2.gif
jodo
I did it...BUT!

When rm'ing the kext again I migh have done a mistake - whatever, I cannot boot to the desktop anymore. It hangs at the "starting up" window with the blue status bar (goes till the end slowly, but nothing happens). Even is save mode...

Nevertheless I managed to extract the txts with the HFS-Explorer - great program!

So you'll find them attached. But I guess I have to reinstall OSX before I can continue testing...*sigh*
Slice
QUOTE(jodo @ Nov 15 2007, 12:32 AM) *
I did it...BUT!

When rm'ing the kext again I migh have done a mistake - whatever, I cannot boot to the desktop anymore. It hangs at the "starting up" window with the blue status bar (goes till the end slowly, but nothing happens). Even is save mode...

Nevertheless I managed to extract the txts with the HFS-Explorer - great program!

So you'll find them attached. But I guess I have to reinstall OSX before I can continue testing...*sigh*

Why do you need to reinstall the system? Look my post #252
I continue to work and find mistakes.
toadspit
hi slice, I've got an ASUS P4R800 VM with a Radeon 9100 IGP onboard (0x5834 - not 5835 as yours, any idea about it?) and uphuck 10.4.9 fresh installed.
If you need some test I can do them, don't know if your kext helps on my chipset but I can.
Which CALLISTO should I use it with?


Slice
QUOTE(toadspit @ Nov 16 2007, 09:52 PM) *
hi slice, I've got an ASUS P4R800 VM with a Radeon 9100 IGP onboard (0x5834 - not 5835 as yours, any idea about it?) and uphuck 10.4.9 fresh installed.
If you need some test I can do them, don't know if your kext helps on my chipset but I can.
Which CALLISTO should I use it with?

Very glad to see a new tester with the so interesting chip.
I am using Callisto003fixed as all other Radeon9000 users. And you need patched Radeon8500. Default one is not working for 5835 or 5834.

Can you test and report?
QUOTE
Can anyone enter GUI with Radeon8500 original or patched?
With or without AGPGart?
With or without Radeon8500GA.plugin?
With or without Callisto?


About ATINDRV -forget! It is only for X1000 and not reliable for us.
Slice
Preliminary rezult
DJ HORA
Slice, can u tell us more details abt your glview result??? i've a 5835 too and with agpgart 2.4.3 i got almost no glitches at quicktime, but wasnt able to run dvd or anything elses related to opengl...
i see on your gl extension it seems to have a drive loaded.... do u want help testing, since we have the same devid??

Best regards and thx for dedicate so much time to all of us!!!
Slice
QUOTE(DJ HORA @ Nov 18 2007, 11:37 PM) *
Slice, can u tell us more details abt your glview result??? i've a 5835 too and with agpgart 2.4.3 i got almost no glitches at quicktime, but wasnt able to run dvd or anything elses related to opengl...
i see on your gl extension it seems to have a drive loaded.... do u want help testing, since we have the same devid??

Best regards and thx for dedicate so much time to all of us!!!

It is preliminary rezult. I have OpenGL loaded but it crashes and as you see I have OpenGL memory only 3Mb while in XP I have 32+54MB.
I need testing with another kind of 9000/9100/9200 to understand what is wrong. With 5835 I can test by myself. But I get only reports "Not working..." and no information.
DJ HORA
Can u provide me the files u r using??? my 9100 is 128mb shared. maybe i can get more lucky or another result to help u.
jodo
Can I provide anything else but the dmesg and the ioreg from AGPGart 243 with the radeon 8500?
Slice
QUOTE(DJ HORA @ Nov 19 2007, 02:13 PM) *
Can u provide me the files u r using??? my 9100 is 128mb shared. maybe i can get more lucky or another result to help u.

I am using ATIRadeon8500*.* files v1.4.40 from 10.4.8, they works in any system version. But the main driver needs to be patched. I uploaded it here
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?act...st&id=15538
The picture above I can get only with 16Mb shared memory. Or with 32Mb but with little cracking driver ATISlice.kext. It is injector like natit but with my additional settings.
It is useful to set correct Video Memory Size, name of the card and display type.
You can also set any value such as
<key>jodo</key>
<string>hacker</string>


QUOTE(jodo @ Nov 19 2007, 09:56 PM) *
Can I provide anything else but the dmesg and the ioreg from AGPGart 243 with the radeon 8500?

jodo! I have no any report from you. Look to my thread about AGPGart.
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=71308&st=0
Can you show me so useful report?
And you still don't say me how you successful with different kexts combinations as I ask before.

P.S. I have new idea: I need to create agpMemory inside AGRGart driver (only for IGP cards)
jodo
QUOTE(Slice @ Nov 20 2007, 04:20 PM) *
jodo! I have no any report from you. Look to my thread about AGPGart.
Can you show me so useful report?
And you still don't say me how you successful with different kexts combinations as I ask before.
P.S. I have new idea: I need to create agpMemory inside AGRGart driver (only for IGP cards)

Ok, I have just discovered your new thread. But have you seen the ioreg and the dmesg from my post #258?

You are right about the combinations...so from what I see just Callisto is missing, I will integrate it. And try the new kext...
Slice
QUOTE(jodo @ Nov 21 2007, 01:14 PM) *
Ok, I have just discovered your new thread. But have you seen the ioreg and the dmesg from my post #258?

Sure! sleep.gif
QUOTE
You are right about the combinations...so from what I see just Callisto is missing, I will integrate it. And try the new kext...

I don't see any problem with your hardware in your reports. Tell me as much as possible about different attempts if you want I help you.
About Callisto... it is not useful for me. I work with fixed resolution. I am looking for OpenGL.
If you found any difference with and without Callisto - say me. But don't repeat about CallistoFB into GA.plugin. I know.
DJ HORA
Slice the links to the 8500*.* are broken, can u send me another link???
thx
Slice
QUOTE(DJ HORA @ Nov 21 2007, 04:20 PM) *
Slice the links to the 8500*.* are broken, can u send me another link???
thx

Yes, the link dead.
Here is another one.
But it is incomplete work so I think it is unuseful. During 3 month I try to make best patch and I can't promise new version very soon.
Slice
jodo! Deadend for you thumbsdown_anim.gif as for all other AGP card. Destroy it unsure.gif

AGP driver works only with AMD64 CPU. If your video can get QE/CI in PCI mode use it. Else no any way.

For users 5835.
As I have something like hardwareOpenGL I should try to make 8500 working as PCIE. I have a chance because of shared memory lies in common memory space and don't need AGP driver.
It is very hard to get informations by numerous of booting. I have no find any technical information about Radeon chip from ATI. Linux driver is a s h i t. censored2.gif WinXP uses softwareOpenGL or something like it. In it I have find only one hardware setting - base_memory_address. My driver uploaded above do the same and works kirky. WinXP with OpenGL Extension Viewer crashes too biggrin.gif
Next step?
During working the computer may dies...
jodo
shock.gif wallbash.gif blink.gif
Slice
I have a little hope that we can create a working AGP driver or I can find new trick with 8500 driver
But in quite other principle gathering.gif
jodo
happy.gif
Slice
jodo!
Are you ever try to use your Radeon as pci and in dashboard click on"i" sign at clock widget? It may switch on QE/CI rolleyes.gif
jodo
Oh my god...really fast speed going on here. sounds a little bit like magic wink.gif but ok - what does it mean "use the radeon as PCI"? just stop AGPGart loading? So that PCI is shown in sys profiler?
Krazubu
I have a radeon 9250 pro PCI, maybe I could help ?
DJ HORA
Slice i was doing a "little" search at google to maybe find something to help our "cause" and i saw a lot of posts saying open source radeon driver for linux to make everything work to our devid (5835). maybe this drivers would worth something for u if u look them???
Slice
QUOTE(jodo @ Nov 25 2007, 01:51 PM) *
Oh my god...really fast speed going on here. sounds a little bit like magic wink.gif but ok - what does it mean "use the radeon as PCI"? just stop AGPGart loading? So that PCI is shown in sys profiler?

Sys profiler may say all that you want. It is only text message from driver. But I have great news - now I have working AGP driver for my ATI chipset thumbsup_anim.gif . And I think that AGPGart246 might works for you. Test carefully! Without Callisto! They are not compatible.


QUOTE(krazubu @ Nov 25 2007, 04:02 PM) *
I have a radeon 9250 pro PCI, maybe I could help ?

What is your DeviceID ? And what is computer configuration? It is real Mac? You may be useful for me as I need good testers. Not as j...


QUOTE(DJ HORA @ Nov 25 2007, 09:07 PM) *
Slice i was doing a "little" search at google to maybe find something to help our "cause" and i saw a lot of posts saying open source radeon driver for linux to make everything work to our devid (5835). maybe this drivers would worth something for u if u look them???

Very interesting!

I have hardwareOpenGL but without QE/CI. Can someone explain me what is mean? There was opinion that PixelShaders is v1.1 but Tiger needs 2.0 sad.gif May be we don't need QE/CI? As for me I need only DVD playback that I still have not. What about real Mac with Radeon 9x00 cards?

Sorry, I don't upload yet AGPGart for ATI bus because of scroll issue.
DJ HORA
Slice... i don't need QE/CI too... getting them would be really cool but if i could i choose i preffer dvd playback and quicktime fullres working.... how u got hardware opengl??? can gimme and advice???
Elv13
The drivers work only in software accel mode. Yes it can display screensaver at 30fps, but nothing more. This card was not even supported by ATI on linux (it is the only one that was unsuported). Just forget about a driver, it will not happen. The only way is to port the whole mesa to OSX interface and i think it is not even possible, so just foget about it.
Slice
QUOTE(Elv13 @ Nov 29 2007, 06:05 AM) *
The drivers work only in software accel mode. Yes it can display screensaver at 30fps, but nothing more. This card was not even supported by ATI on linux (it is the only one that was unsuported). Just forget about a driver, it will not happen. The only way is to port the whole mesa to OSX interface and i think it is not even possible, so just foget about it.

Did you see my screenshot?
Once again. Linux driver is a censored2.gif
Windows driver works.
To have QE/CI we need a speed. So mesa is not a solution. It is ve-e-ery slow.
Krazubu
My ATI is a Gecube 9250 PCI with 128Mb. The graphic chip is RV280. After a research on the net (I don't have the card currently plugged), the device ID should be 5960. My computer is a hackintosh, pentium D (sse3 support) with intel i915 chipset (no AGP support). Tell me if I can help.
About pixel shaders, I don't know if tiger needs 2.0, but I know QE is supported since geforce 2 (that is far older than any 9000 series ATI), so maybe that can give you some clues.
MACn00bs
@Slice

I've found out this old link when I tried to install Linux to my laptop years ago (before knowing Ubuntu)
This guy was succes to have 3D and openGL enable in his laptop and of course he doesnt use the defectif ATI driver
http://www.fi.muni.cz/~kas/m6r/#graphics

I hope it could help you to figure out how.
Slice
QUOTE(krazubu @ Nov 29 2007, 02:51 PM) *
My ATI is a Gecube 9250 PCI with 128Mb. The graphic chip is RV280. After a research on the net (I don't have the card currently plugged), the device ID should be 5960. My computer is a hackintosh, pentium D (sse3 support) with intel i915 chipset (no AGP support). Tell me if I can help.
About pixel shaders, I don't know if tiger needs 2.0, but I know QE is supported since geforce 2 (that is far older than any 9000 series ATI), so maybe that can give you some clues.

What is happen with your Radeon? Is it work or no?
5960 is directly supported by 8500 driver, as a 4c66. So I dunno what is the problem. You have PCI - you need no AGP.
Why it is PCI? May be it is MAC version?
I know that MacMini with Radeon 9200 has QE/CI. Why not hackintosh?

QUOTE(MACn00bs @ Nov 30 2007, 02:09 AM) *
@Slice

I've found out this old link when I tried to install Linux to my laptop years ago (before knowing Ubuntu)
This guy was succes to have 3D and openGL enable in his laptop and of course he doesnt use the defectif ATI driver
http://www.fi.muni.cz/~kas/m6r/#graphics

I hope it could help you to figure out how.

From the link I find
QUOTE
Binary-only proprietary drivers from ATI support TV-out and dual-head setup, but no 3D acceleration



Now I have "working" driver but it is very slow and OpenGL crashes. Until I resolve this problem I shall not upload it.
Krazubu
My ATI is a PC version, it's just PCI, I needed a PCI add-on card and it's still possible to find some PCI models, as you can nowadays still buy AGP cards. I didn't tested it yet, but will do and report ASAP.
Slice
May be anyone wants to try this combination?
1. AGPGart from
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry526856
2. ATIRadeon8500 all kexts and bundles. For 5835 use my patched version uploaded above.
3. No Callisto!
4. ATISlice.kext. Edit it's info.plist
CODE
            <key>IOPCIMatch</key>
            <string>0x58351002</string>  -- your DeviceID
            <key>IOProbeScore</key>
            <integer>0</integer>
            <key>IOProviderClass</key>
            <string>IOPCIDevice</string>
            <key>entriesToAdd</key>
            <dict>
                <key>AAPL,gart-width</key>
                <integer>32</integer>
                <key>F8,size</key>
                <integer>0x300000</integer>
                <key>GARTCacheSize</key>
                <integer>16</integer>
                <key>GARTReclaimInterval</key>
                <integer>250</integer>
                <key>GARTReclaimTimeout</key>
                <integer>260</integer>

F8,size - for 9700 it is Video Memory Size, but for me I can boot only with the value 3Mb.
GART* - I try tune its and get best values. Defaults is 0. May be anyone would be successful with some other.

Sorry, but the problem is still remain unresolved. I wait your testing and usefull information.
DJ HORA
Slice, i'm using the combination u told us to use, but i've a little problem with ATIRadeon8500GA.plugin... with this file my system hangs before open graphics... without it the sysem starts but the glview crashes... do u want some report??

And whats changes u suggest me to do in ATISlice.kext?
Slice
QUOTE(DJ HORA @ Dec 3 2007, 04:23 PM) *
Slice, i'm using the combination u told us to use, but i've a little problem with ATIRadeon8500GA.plugin... with this file my system hangs before open graphics... without it the sysem starts but the glview crashes... do u want some report??

And whats changes u suggest me to do in ATISlice.kext?

Yes, GA.plugin must switch on hardwareOpenGL. Did you use AGPGart? What is your memory size and VideoMemory? If you see glview crashes so look for crash.log. May be you find a reason.
Yes, OpenGL Extension Viewer v2.3 and more crashes. I have v2.28 that works.

About GA.plugin. Change string IONDRVFramebuffer to IOFramebuffer.
Did you delete Callisto?
As you see I have many questions so I need more detailed report.
Try the combination without AGPGart.
DJ HORA
I've 1536mb ram and Vid memory is 128mb... i can't change video memory at bios.
I removed Callisto, and changed the string into the pluging as u told me but same result.
Without AGPGart it doesn't hang with the GA.plugin modification, but abt a minute after it get into graphics the system hangs....
do u have any other information o want me to change another thing??
can u send me your glviewer??
Slice
QUOTE(DJ HORA @ Dec 3 2007, 05:43 PM) *
I've 1536mb ram and Vid memory is 128mb... i can't change video memory at bios.
I removed Callisto, and changed the string into the pluging as u told me but same result.
Without AGPGart it doesn't hang with the GA.plugin modification, but abt a minute after it get into graphics the system hangs....
do u have any other information o want me to change another thing??
can u send me your glviewer??

You can't change video memory because you have RAM>512.
System hangs if you try scroll text, isn't it? As I have the same.
Try to change GART* values to any other. May be you would be more successful then I am.
Instead of glviewer try other program:
Slice
I found what is wrong for me.
I made working driver. I have hardware OpenGL. But it is not reliable for 5835!
Compare screens.
jodo
Hi Slice,

sounds great so far! Good to know that you are still on track. I'm back on the stage as well - but as you have stated, I'm not really good for DIY testing wink.gif

But of course I'm still willingly and happy to test a specific setup based on your instructions...just for letting you know...

Good luck...

jo
ZKFVS
Hi Slice,

I'm a new member to these forums but have been following this thread closely. I have a Mobility Radeon 9000 with 32MB RAM in a Dell Latitude D600 and am using JaS 10.4.6. The configuration that works for me is without AGPGart. The video hardware info program shows that hardware OpenGL is on but whenever I try and use that hardware OpenGL (eg Flurry or iTunes visuals) the app just crashes but otherwise everything is fine. I'm not sure how helpful this is but if you have any suggestions for me to help I'm willing. AGPGart would only load and make the graphics card show as AGP if all the ATIRadeon8500* kexts were gone.

Thanks for all your efforts, its much appreciated.
Slice
QUOTE(jodo @ Dec 11 2007, 01:31 PM) *
Hi Slice,

sounds great so far! Good to know that you are still on track. I'm back on the stage as well - but as you have stated, I'm not really good for DIY testing wink.gif

But of course I'm still willingly and happy to test a specific setup based on your instructions...just for letting you know...

Good luck...

jo

glad to see you again smile.gif
I still have no news but I work.
Can you say me something like ZKFVS?

2 ZKFVS
What id your DeviceID? 4c66?
What is you bus? Can you upload here ioreg and dmesg as I ask at AGP thread?
ZKFVS
Yes sorry I forgot to mention that my dev id was 4c66, its on an AGP 4x bus and I'll upload ioreg and dmesg soon.

Thanks
ZKFVS
Slice,

Here is my ioreg and dmesg.

Thanks,
ZKFVS
Slice
QUOTE(ZKFVS @ Dec 13 2007, 06:42 AM) *
Slice,

Here is my ioreg and dmesg.

Thanks,
ZKFVS

Very thanks for testing. As I see you try my ATISlice and it works partially. Needed to rewrite.
CODE
Ati: RADio address 0000c000   -- false
Ati: Setting AAPL,gart-width=0x00000020  --true
Ati: Setting device_type=display
Ati: Setting GARTCacheSize=0x00000010
Ati: Setting F8,size=0x03100000  -- It is your good value?
Ati: F8 written 03100000
Ati: Setting fboffset=0x00020000
Ati: Setting GARTReclaimInterval=0x000000fa
Ati: Setting GARTReclaimTimeout=0x00000104  -- It is your good value?
Ati: Set model=Unknown ATI  -- strange, it might be my mistake, or interference with your RadeonTool.
Ati: Corrected F8 size=03100000 VMEM = 00000000
radeonTool:Initializing
radeonTool:Probing
Ati: Start with VID
Ati: trace before Radeon.kext
(00000030)=00000000  (00000050)=00000000  (000000f8)=03100000  (00000100)=00000000  -- false
radeonTool iomemory length: 0x10000 @ 0xfcff0000  -- good!
radeonTool virt: 0x2975f000 physical: 0xfcff0000
radeonTool IRQ: 11, Vendor ID: 1002, Product ID: 4c66  -- very interesting!


Your ioreg
CODE
"compatible" = <"pci8086,3341","pciclass,060400">  -- I know this AGP, but still have problems
"VRAM,memsize" = <00000112>   -- ????
    | |   |     |   "IODeviceMemory" = (({"address"=0xffffffffe8000000,"length"=0x8000000}),{"offset"=0xc000,"parent"=({"address"=0x0,"length"=0x10000}),"length"=0x100},({"address"=0xfffffffffcff0000,"length"=0x10000}))

IODeviceMemory has unknown structure for me. Needed to think.
BOBSONATOR
a very big cookie goes to whomever can make this work
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