Prasys
Nov 29 2006, 02:05 AM
Hey guys
I have been palying with the ATI kexts and added some extra stuff [particularly for OEM Devices] and created a small installer for us all. It enables QE/CI Support on ATI Cards [RV36x and RV38x series]. Since some of us can't get it to work , I made it in a Tiny Installer.
Download URL -
http://www.rakis.net/~prasys/ati%20driver.mpkg.zipIts a work-in-progress. I might be including some extra stuff as well. Just trying to make a newbie's life even easier . Now If Only I could include something to fix that tearing
jihuiwen
Nov 29 2006, 03:20 AM
Hi Prasys
Does this one works with 9800Pro cards? I had QE/CI with Callisto before I updated to 10.4.8. and now I have to remove Callisto to get QE/CI to work, but doing that I lose resolution changes. Any ideas?
EDIT
nevermind, i forgot to edit my 9700GA.plugin file
bgg71
Nov 29 2006, 03:24 AM
How bout radeon mobility 9000?
Prasys
Nov 29 2006, 04:13 AM
Radeon 9000 , i wonder if they are in the same family or not. thats the problem here....
bgg71
Nov 29 2006, 04:16 AM
QUOTE(Prasys @ Nov 29 2006, 04:13 AM)

Radeon 9000 , i wonder if they are in the same family or not. thats the problem here....
So what are these rv36 and 38x?

Ok. I checked your installer. So it seems to be for Radeon 9700. Did not work with 9000.
Prasys
Nov 29 2006, 05:37 AM
RV36X and RV38x are for Radeon 9550 and above , that are using that chipset. I will see if i can make it for 9000
jodo
Nov 29 2006, 07:58 AM
QUOTE(Prasys @ Nov 29 2006, 06:37 AM)

I will see if i can make it for 9000
You would become godlike status by doing that. Well...at least a little bit. There are a lot of people, including me, trying to get QE/CI to work on Radeon 9000/9200 cards. People with a 7500 have it...so why don't we? I would give you any support I can...and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
bgg71
Nov 30 2006, 02:50 AM
QUOTE(jodo @ Nov 29 2006, 07:58 AM)

You would become godlike status by doing that. Well...at least a little bit. There are a lot of people, including me, trying to get QE/CI to work on Radeon 9000/9200 cards. People with a 7500 have it...so why don't we? I would give you any support I can...and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I agree!
Prasys
Nov 30 2006, 10:08 AM
i am looking into it
well , i took at look at the 8500 series kext , it seems that 9200 is supported , but its not being enabled. I might need to take a look at natit on how it fools the EFI part. It sems that Apple prefers to have 9200 on the PowerPC side...
jodo
Nov 30 2006, 10:18 AM
Thx for your effort. When talking about the 9200 it includes the 9000 series as well, doesn't it? AFAIK the 9200 is nothing more but a 9000 at AGP 8x. So most things should work for both series, right?
~Neo
Nov 30 2006, 10:23 AM
QUOTE(Prasys @ Nov 30 2006, 11:08 AM)

i am looking into it
well , i took at look at the 8500 series kext , it seems that 9200 is supported , but its not being enabled. I might need to take a look at natit on how it fools the EFI part. It sems that Apple prefers to have 9200 on the PowerPC side...
Hey man!
If you can find out anything with the EFI part please post! If natit/titan could work for the 9xxx series it would be VERY cool!
If this is possible, we should work together to make the perfect installer
If you need help with anything, pm me

cYa
asapreta
Nov 30 2006, 01:25 PM
And about the R4xx Cards ? (x800 and so on). Any chances?
McSkywalker
Nov 30 2006, 01:34 PM
QUOTE(NeoPheus @ Nov 30 2006, 12:23 PM)

If natit/titan could work for the 9xxx series it would be VERY cool!
Exactly

Also,
QUOTE
Now If Only I could include something to fix that tearing
jodo
Dec 3 2006, 08:07 AM
QUOTE(Prasys @ Nov 30 2006, 11:08 AM)

it seems that 9200 is supported but its not being enabled
I've checked the kext...is there any way to enable it? Or has it to be done somewhere else?
Prasys
Dec 3 2006, 11:19 AM
Okay , it seems that 9200 is supported as said , but its not being enabled for a reason. Maybe its mainly because its a PowerPC Driver ?. But then its a universal binary
jodo
Dec 3 2006, 12:03 PM
QUOTE(Prasys @ Dec 3 2006, 12:19 PM)

But then its a universal binary
Are you sure about that? That would mean that we can use it, doesn't it? If we can enable it somehow...
Prasys
Dec 3 2006, 02:47 PM
No , this is weird
The codes are somewhat targeted for PowerPC Radeon 9200 [aka Apple's one] , it certainly has a larger ROM [typical of Apple]. If there is a way to emulate them. I am going to see if anyone has a Mac Radeon 9000 and compare it with the PC counterpart
bgg71
Dec 3 2006, 08:14 PM
Good luck! It seems apple used some sort of radeon mobility 9000 32 mb gdr (sounds familiar?) in some ibooks. Isn't it possible to

build in kernel support for xorg? would the osx gui run on that? My 2 cents!
nastyhome
Dec 7 2006, 12:31 AM
9000/9200 with OE/CI?
You will certainly be GOD-like!
technima
Dec 7 2006, 03:24 AM
Prasys if you get this to work for the mobile 9000, words can not express my joy!:)
captainsquash
Dec 7 2006, 04:04 AM
Prasys - Nice work so far, thanks for the effort

I've been trying to work on this for a little bit - I've been familiarizing myself with IOKit et al for the past half month or so but I'm still nowhere near a working product. In the interim I created an installer to install and configure Callisto and AGPGart, but thats as far as I've gotten so far on helping people with 3d accel :/
That said, I'd be glad to test out anything or help any way I can.
BobOki
Dec 8 2006, 11:23 PM
I am a Mobile Radeon 7500 and would be happy to test anything you throw up.
goodtime
Dec 15 2006, 01:46 PM
I have a Radeon 9000 Pro AGP Card on PowerPC and a ATI Radeon 9200 Mobility on my PC Laptop.
Both are R200 Series cards.
If you need any ioreg info from the PowerPC let me know. It has lots more information listed than on the PC (nonworking one).
Getting the latest AGPGart 2.1 might be a solution. It seems that Hardware OpenGL does not run on the PC for the Radeon 9200.
BTW, forget about CI for the 9200. The PowerPC version can only do QE.
gt
bgrau
Dec 16 2006, 09:45 AM
It will be nice to unlock CI for Radeon Mobility 9000's in Mac's PPC (iMac, mac mini (ppc), ibook and PowerBook's).
Currently only QE/Rotation is allowed.
goodtime
Dec 19 2006, 12:00 PM
QUOTE(Billy @ Dec 16 2006, 09:45 AM)

It will be nice to unlock CI for Radeon Mobility 9000's in Mac's PPC (iMac, mac mini (ppc), ibook and PowerBook's).
Currently only QE/Rotation is allowed.
This is not physically possible on the 8500 R200 Series cards. It could be come with software emulation, but emulating a GPU through the CPU is much slower. These days some proprietary computer software companies use multiple GPUs to run complex equations taking advantage of the GPU's bandwidth that is normally used for 3D Rendering. Case point, the GPU can handle more bandwidth than the CPU.
Getting back to the 9200. Natit.kext is recognized on my 9200 Mobility on 10.4.8 Exp6. But it does not seem to work with the 8500 drivers. I will test this again this weekend; the Neo universal Natit pkg installer removed my 8500 drivers. I got the X1000 drivers that the Neo universal installer installs to load, but didn't do anything. I also had to keep Callisto installed otherwise I would get a black screen. That could cause a problem too.
gt
dinokpir
Dec 29 2006, 12:16 AM
Everyone - thank you for your good work. I have a dell latitude d600 with radeon 9000, if anyone need info from the 9000 mobility card just ask me. I am not sure what i can do to help this process. Again thank you very much.
graphic Design
Jan 7 2007, 04:35 AM
And how about X850 XTPE (AGP)?
Prasys, I hope your script can make any changes for that card!!!
Thanks!
hokage-dono
Jan 11 2007, 01:46 PM
does it works on ati mobility 9700 ? If so, do I have to delete my existing Callisto drivers before I try ?
hokage-dono
Jan 12 2007, 05:18 PM
tried ... doesn't work ... what's wrong with this fu***** graphic card !!!!!! {censored} ...
osx isn't osx without 3D acceleration ...
MikeBee
Jan 19 2007, 07:20 PM
hmmm just a quick bump for this thread. a driver for mobility 9000 would be ace
swosh
Jan 23 2007, 02:12 PM
could not get my mobility 9700 accelerated either.
siddharth
Jan 24 2007, 05:43 PM
Could something be done about the ATI Radeon xPress 200 Series?
captainsquash
Jan 25 2007, 02:12 AM
siddharth - Unfortunately the x200 is ridiculously far away from any supported graphics card, I've tried in vain to get QE/CI working on a friend's X200. You may want to try Katana installer to get OpenGL acceleration working, at this point in time I think it's as close as you're going to get.
You can get Katana here -->
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=35345&st=0
siddharth
Jan 25 2007, 01:43 PM
But this page:
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D101GGC/index.htmsays that the Video - Integrated ATI* Radeon* X300 based graphics
captainsquash
Jan 25 2007, 09:10 PM
That doesn't really matter unfortunately :/. It's not that the hardware is incapable of displaying the graphics (or that it is used by motherboards made by intel), it's just that OS X just doesn't fully support that card. It doesn't have any computers (or vendors offering a x200/x300 card) which use a comparable card so there's no reason to add x200/x300 functionality. OS X uses VESA (a low-level failsafe method to send understandable data to your graphics card (in essence)) if it can't find a compatible graphics card - which is what you're likely using now. For this reason, you may want to try using Katana to see if it will get you somewhere.
RaduKing
Jan 27 2007, 01:21 AM
any news on Mobility Radeon 9000/9200 ?
bwhsh8r
Jan 27 2007, 01:36 AM
thank you
oktar
Jan 28 2007, 04:31 PM
I took a look at the ATIRadeon8500.kext from Darwin 8.0.1 x86. This kext is Intel only. Not Universal or PPC.
These are the matching id's i found in the info.plist:
CODE
0x514C1002
CHIP_R200 "ATI Radeon QL R200 8500 LE"
0x516C1002
Chip Number: R200
Chip Description: Radeon 8500 / 8500LE
0x4C661002
CHIP_R250|CHIP_IS_MOBILITY "ATI Radeon Lf R250 Mobility 9000 M9"
0x49661002
CHIP_R250 "ATI Radeon If R250 9000"
0x59601002
CHIP_RV280 "ATI Radeon RV280 9200"
0x59611002
CHIP_RV280 "ATI Radeon RV280 9200 SE"
0x5C631002
CHIP_RV280|CHIP_IS_MOBILITY "ATI Radeon RV280 Mobility"(Mobility Radeon 9200)
0x49671002
CHIP_R250 "ATI Radeon Ig R250 9000"
0x59621002
CHIP_RV280 "ATI Radeon RV280 9200"
0x59631002
CHIP_RV280 "ATI Radeon RV280 9200"
I added the corresponding names for the cards.
nunex
Jan 29 2007, 02:35 AM
any luck with a 9700 pro ?
FreakyMac
Feb 11 2007, 09:47 PM
Anybody find a solution for Mobility 9000?
Prasys
Feb 13 2007, 08:26 AM
9700 pro - should work
x700 -should work
8500 series - Only Software OpenGL acceleration !
DC2BAR
Feb 14 2007, 09:36 PM
when installed, rebooted, no change in QE/CI on Radeon X600SE (PCIE) 0x5462. Callisto 6 installed for resolution adjustment. 10.4.8/8.8.1 install.
vonker
Feb 16 2007, 01:56 PM
@ prasys
i've downloading u'r patch, but nothing change anything
my gpu pcie atiradeon x550 CI&QC not supported on core2duo x6400
gigabyte ds4
hryamzik
Feb 16 2007, 03:54 PM
I tried with x700pro here's the result:
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
VRAM (Total): 128 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x5e4b
Revision ID: 0x0000
Kernel Extension Info: No Kext Loaded
Displays:
Display:
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported
Does the installer use some kexts from extention folder? I've removed some.
I tried clysto patch also - it works, but there are problems with mouse artifacts and there's no complete solution.
BlackCH
Feb 18 2007, 11:27 AM
I have a Mobility 7000 IGP here (R200 family, i guess). I was using Katana (callisto+AGPGart), but they load the CPU too much, without any significant performance improvement. So Im back to the VESA drivers. I'll been researching about flashing the card rom, since there's a mac version of the 7000, but it seems to work only with PCI-AGP cards. I've been trying to backup the rom before trying anything else, and rom dumpers (Flashrom, ATITool, Graphiccelerator, etc) doesnt seems to work with IGP cards.... Not to tell that flashing the rom succesfuly would render the card unusable in windows.
here there is a link in case someone wants to wonder about it.....
http://www.cubeowner.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=8798A driver for the R200 family would be great!
vineEater
Mar 3 2007, 10:36 PM
Hi
Can you tell me if this should/might work for the Radeon 9600?
Also, what exactly does this do... I'm fairly new to Mac OS X and I'm just getting my head round kexts and stuff... as far as I know I'm currently using the stuff in ATIRadeon9700.kext for my card, because the way I got the GUI to work was to remove all other ATI/NVidia/GeForce files from my System/Libraries/Extensions directory
does this update ATIRadeon9700.kext or something?
A quick overview would be great
vineEater
Mar 8 2007, 10:02 AM
Anyone? Macgirl?
bobbymac
Mar 10 2007, 02:30 AM
Great to have the good news. I display card is 9550, and I have been searching the driver for a long long time. You are really god-like. TQ!
radan
Mar 20 2007, 05:32 PM
any luck with radeon x600? Furthermore, does this tiny installer include 1400x1050 resolution?
robon
Apr 6 2007, 06:09 AM
thanks for sharing ~
love you
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