Mebster
Oct 4 2006, 06:31 AM
I'm considering trying to get Bluetooth on my hackintosh and was going to buy a Bluetooth dongle from ebay UK.
I was just wondering if I could more or less get any or is there something I need to look out for (manufactures/models...)?
Does OSX generally work well with them or is tweaking necessary?
Anyone had any bad experience?
Are there any other advice?
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Also when they say 100M, does that mean it will normally go through walls as wifi does and maybe give you 30M or less?
Basically I'm hoping to try and get my mobile phone (cell phone for some of you) Bluetooth headset to work with skype or another program which allows VOIP PC-PC. We only have one PC at home to I would like to be able to walk while and talk a certain distance while someone else uses the PC.
Thanks for any help
Does anyone know if I can use a bluetooth headset somehow with Skype, MSN, iChat,...?
munky
Oct 4 2006, 09:03 AM
i got a 10M dongle off ebay, some hong kong supplier, and it works out of the box. i'll check later when i'm at home to see what make/model it is.
afaik most usb bluetooth dongles should work.
Mebster
Oct 4 2006, 10:34 PM
Thanks dude, if you could possibly tell me the sellers name I could possibly buy from him .
BTW for usb dongles they are all Hong Kong suppliers lol.
Also if your one is a 100M one then will you be able to tell me roughly how far you can walk away through and still pick up a signal. When I mean walk away, I mean from one room to another and still get a decent signal.
Actually, does bluetooth work through walls at all like wifi?
Once again, Thanks
Mebster
Oct 4 2006, 11:39 PM
Bluetooth comes in two classes: Class I which has a range of "up to" 100 metres with a power of up to 100mW, and Class II, which has a range of "up to" 10 metres, using a power of 1mW. Of course, you need a Class I unit at both ends to get the increased range: the communication has to be two-way. (so my bluetooth heardset has to also support 100M?)
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Bluetooth devices can be in 3 different power classes:
Class 3 : The lowest power, the max. range of this is 10m (30 feet)
Class 2 : Max range is about 50m (150ft)
Class 1 : Max range is about 100m (300ft)
These ranges can be affected by environmental conditions i.e. furniture, walls, people so ranges can easily be reduced. Bluetooth is not a line of sight connection so it can be used through walls and floors. (nice)
saddam lennon
Oct 5 2006, 01:56 AM
i have a trust dongle. had a hard time to get it working under windows xp several months ago. and under os x.. it was amazing how quickly and smoothly it worked out of the box. plus syncing you mobile phone is incredibly easy - also out of the box.
i reckon you should buy a quality dongle, and it will just work.
greg
jonz14
Oct 5 2006, 02:06 AM
I have a the $20 USB dongle they sell at my local Walmart, I think the brand is IO Gear or somethin like that.
It didn't take me any set up at all I just plugged it in and it worked fine.
It is easy to set up the devices also, it took me about a minute to set up my Razr.
And my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth Mighty Mouse work with it although it says on specifications that you have to have a Mac with internal Bluetooth or a Dlink adapter (the only one supported by Apple) although everything works perfect with my cheap one.
P.S. The keyboard and mouse work perfect and have great response, alot better than my old Microsoft wireless desktop
Bruce Wang
Oct 5 2006, 05:12 AM
I use Gigabyte GN-BTD02, works great! GN-BTD01 also works.
Bruce
Mebster
Oct 5 2006, 03:20 PM
Thanks guys for all your help.
Do any of you use a bluetooth headset for ichat/msn/skype....?
Also can you give me some idea of how far (how many rooms maybe away) you can go with your USB (mobile, headset, printer) device if you have the 100M range type, and still get a good reception?
I would like to be able to talk through skype using my bluetooth headset while someone else uses the pc. ATM we only have 1 pc (until i get another) and so i would like to stand as far away as possible and still talk clearly over bluetooth.
Thanks a lot.
MichalK
Oct 5 2006, 06:15 PM
QUOTE(AcePlayer @ Oct 5 2006, 03:17 PM)

Thanks guys for all your help.
Do any of you use a bluetooth headset for ichat/msn/skype....?
Also can you give me some idea of how far (how many rooms maybe away) you can go with your USB (mobile, headset, printer) device if you have the 100M range type, and still get a good reception?
I would like to be able to talk through skype using my bluetooth headset while someone else uses the pc. ATM we only have 1 pc (until i get another) and so i would like to stand as far away as possible and still talk clearly over bluetooth.
The first step is to get a proper dongle. True, most of the dongles work with OSX out of the box, however not all of them do support Headset profile (if you try to pair it with a headset it will display "Your hardware does not support headsets").
According to Apple, only apple built-in BT and old D-link DBT120 can provide you headset connectivity with OSX. I've found that Bluetake's BT007sx (100m) and BT009sx (10m) dongles should support headsets, and gave them a try buying BT007sx.
Now with the Bluetake I can pair it with my plantronics explorer 320, which is indicated as "Connected" but still no luck - the headset is not listed in AudioOUT/AudioIN devices hence cannot select it for Skype/iChatAV. I don't know if it's the matter of Hackintosh (10.4.6 currently), Bluetake's dongle (seems to be working fine in contrary to my previous Broadcomm based CC&C tech) or Plantronics Explorer 320 (probably if it was called the Finder 320 it could work better, LOL).
Maybe someone will guide me on how to proceed further.
Michal
386dx
Oct 5 2006, 08:39 PM
Salam,
I am usig a cheap bluetooth calss1 usb device. It works fine with my phone.
386dx
Oct 5 2006, 09:40 PM
USB bluetooth device working great with mobil phone @ 20 m
MichalK
Oct 6 2006, 05:08 PM
QUOTE(386dx @ Oct 5 2006, 08:36 PM)

I am usig a cheap bluetooth calss1 usb device. It works fine with my phone.
Hi,
What about the headset? Most of the dongles off ebay will provide bluetooth connectivity with the phone; however, headset support seem to be quite limited...
Michal
MichalK
Oct 6 2006, 05:50 PM
Finally i've managed to solve my bluetooth headset problem (headset paired but not indicated in AudioIN / AudioOUT ). The solution was to update the IOAudioFamily.kext from 1.5.6 (installed with JaS 10.4.6 DVD) to 1.5.8 (which can be found there:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry140433 ). Copy the IOAudiofamily.kext over the old one, repair permissions, clear kext cache and you're done.
Yuppii!!!!
Michal
Mebster
Oct 6 2006, 11:18 PM
QUOTE(MichalK @ Oct 5 2006, 07:12 PM)

The first step is to get a proper dongle. True, most of the dongles work with OSX out of the box, however not all of them do support Headset profile (if you try to pair it with a headset it will display "Your hardware does not support headsets").
According to Apple, only apple built-in BT and old D-link DBT120 can provide you headset connectivity with OSX. I've found that Bluetake's BT007sx (100m) and BT009sx (10m) dongles should support headsets, and gave them a try buying BT007sx.
Now with the Bluetake I can pair it with my plantronics explorer 320, which is indicated as "Connected" but still no luck - the headset is not listed in AudioOUT/AudioIN devices hence cannot select it for Skype/iChatAV. I don't know if it's the matter of Hackintosh (10.4.6 currently), Bluetake's dongle (seems to be working fine in contrary to my previous Broadcomm based CC&C tech) or Plantronics Explorer 320 (probably if it was called the Finder 320 it could work better, LOL).
Maybe someone will guide me on how to proceed further.
Michal
Thanks a lot for the information mate. I honestly had no idea and now am better prepared. Appreciate it.
QUOTE(386dx @ Oct 5 2006, 09:36 PM)

Salam,
I am usig a cheap bluetooth calss1 usb device. It works fine with my phone.
Wa alaikum assalam brother/sister emmmmm... can’t really tell with your user name. Then again mine isn’t to clear either. Thanks for the info. 20M isn't bad at all.
QUOTE(MichalK @ Oct 6 2006, 06:47 PM)

Finally i've managed to solve my bluetooth headset problem (headset paired but not indicated in AudioIN / AudioOUT ). The solution was to update the IOAudioFamily.kext from 1.5.6 (installed with JaS 10.4.6 DVD) to 1.5.8 (which can be found there:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry140433 ). Copy the IOAudiofamily.kext over the old one, repair permissions, clear kext cache and you're done.
Yuppii!!!!
Michal
Nice!!! Thanks for sharing the solution. Hope when I get my bluetooth dongle it works flawlessly with my headset.
zedzed
Mar 8 2007, 02:08 AM
Has anyone tried this BT adapter?
IOGEAR GBU321
http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GBU321It is BT v2.0 and Class 1
Their page says "This Bluetooth Class 1 adapter is compatible with both PC and Mac, and offers a wireless range of 330 feet (100 meter). "
- Wirelessly communicate with Bluetooth-enabled computers, printers, PDAs cell phones, headsets and more
- Supports the following services: Serial Port, Network Access, Dial Up Networking, headset, AV, File Transfer, Audio Gateway, HID
macgirl
Mar 8 2007, 06:48 AM
I have the IOGear old one 100M (Class 1 only) but it worked fineon my PC when I didn't have an Airport on my PowerBook and I used to share my Internet connection then.
I tested with my Hackintosh, it enables the Bluetooth Menu and Preference Panel but it didn't detect any of my devices. But my MS BT Dongle (Class 2) but only 10M.
Unkwntech
Mar 8 2007, 07:37 AM
Asalam Alakum-
Does anyone know if there is a solution to the lack of support for headsets... I have a Belkin F8T012 and I would like to use my headset... preticularly since the MIC on my sound card doesn't work. I am using 10.4.5
NeSuKuN
Mar 13 2007, 05:50 PM
I've just bought a Conceptronic 200m BT USB dongle priced at 12€ (less than 10$) and works perfectly, slightly faster than in windows and perfect signal all over my home (>80square meters) haven't tried audio yet but my wiimote, my laptops and my cellphone connected properly. Supports OSX officially(It's written on the box)
Mebster
Apr 7 2007, 05:52 AM
Does anyone know if I can use a bluetooth headset somehow with Skype, MSN, iChat,...?
macgirl
Apr 7 2007, 06:06 AM
I add that to my I'll try it later list
Vipersfate
Apr 7 2007, 06:14 AM
My friend handed me a Bluetooth dongle one day, and I decided, hey, lets try it. It works!
as stated before Mac has a lot of support for BT, it's popular!
Sedna
Apr 7 2007, 07:00 AM
I have an MMTek USB bluetooth dongle with Broadcom chipset, and works like a charm. I'm starting to think that ALL USB bluetooth dongles work with Mac OS X but don't quote me on that one.
Mebster
Apr 7 2007, 03:53 PM
I think we all agree bluetooths work on mac very easily so can we move on to the other question.
- Has anyone got any to work with a bluetooth headset to work with MSN, Skype, ....?
- What distances do you got with your bluetooth (state what distance it's listed to be able to reach)?
Vipersfate
Apr 8 2007, 03:28 AM
Anything further than about 5 feet for me, the connected started to fail.
InsanelyOne
Apr 13 2007, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(AcePlayer @ Apr 7 2007, 11:53 AM)

I think we all agree bluetooths work on mac very easily so can we move on to the other question.
- Has anyone got any to work with a bluetooth headset to work with MSN, Skype, ....?
Agreed!! Has anybody gotten a bluetooth headset (I have a Plantronics Pulsar 590A) working?
Neonkoala
Apr 14 2007, 10:13 AM
Anyone know how to get A2DP profile working? I would love to have my wireless headphones working in OS X, it's another reason I stick to Windows ATM.
eLMafUDd
Apr 14 2007, 12:50 PM
I bought a bluetooth dongle. It would not work with the XP drivers, and needed specialized software for XP, but worked instantly with OS X. Funny.
OMX-Knuckles
May 17 2007, 05:34 AM
Sorry to necro... but anything new on the headset issue? I'd really like to use my Motorola headset without tracking down the D-Link adapter (which apparently is no longer sold)
hammten
Jun 22 2007, 03:00 PM
QUOTE(jonz14 @ Oct 4 2006, 09:06 PM)

I have a the $20 USB dongle they sell at my local Walmart, I think the brand is IO Gear or somethin like that.
It didn't take me any set up at all I just plugged it in and it worked fine.
It is easy to set up the devices also, it took me about a minute to set up my Razr.
And my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth Mighty Mouse work with it although it says on specifications that you have to have a Mac with internal Bluetooth or a Dlink adapter (the only one supported by Apple) although everything works perfect with my cheap one.
P.S. The keyboard and mouse work perfect and have great response, alot better than my old Microsoft wireless desktop
Did you by any chance try the Apple Wireless Keyboard and Mouse under any Windows operating systems? I want to buy a bluetooth dongle, as well as the wireless keyboard and mouse, but don't want to get them if it will work only on one of the operating systems installed on my Hackintosh.
-the holiday hamm-
OMX-Knuckles
Jun 22 2007, 04:48 PM
Has Apple ever fixed the bluetooth issue where ONLY the D-Link dongle supported headsets?
Mebster
Jun 22 2007, 11:34 PM
People are asking a lot of questions and no one seem to have any answers.
Come on, with 80,000 members how is this possible?
miramar
Jun 23 2007, 05:20 PM
I'm using a DLink DBT-120 bt dongle flashed with Apple's firmware. It works with my mobile phone, Apple Wireless Keyboard & Apple Wireless Mouse. I intend to test it out with Skype & my bt headsets. I have 2 of them, the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 and the iTech R35. I just haven't got round to it yet. Just hang in there, I'll try to test them out this weekend.
I also have 2 other bt dongles which I haven't tried yet, the MSI Btoes 2.0 and a generic one.
miramar
Jun 24 2007, 05:32 PM
OK just done testing on my 10.4.9 hackintosh. Good news(1 out of 2 ain't bad). Items involved are:
1. DLink DBT-120 bt dongle flashed with Apple Bluetooth Firmware Updater 1.2
2. Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 stereo headset
3. iTech Clip r35 stereo headset
1+2: Works! HBH-DS970 headset paired OK with the Mac. Bluetooth prefs shows as Device Type: Audio. Services include Headset, HandsFree and Remote Control among others. Selectable as Input & Ouput devices in Sound prefs. Also selectable as audio input/output in Skype. Tried a test call to echo123 and to my PC. Seems to work OK.
1+3: Does not work. iTech r35 headset paired OK with the Mac but Services listed as HandsFree, no Headset even though the r35 specs claims that it support both Headset & HandsFree profiles. Did not show up in Sound prefs as an audio i/o option. Bugger.
There ya go! Next I'll try the other bluetooth dongles that I have.
yellow83
Jun 30 2007, 10:16 PM
hi, I've a new bluetooth dongle that works very well with my n70, but if I try to connect my bluetooth headset i receive this "Headsets are not supported on your Bluetooth hardware". anyone can help me please?
dongle full support this profile, the casting of nines is that on winxp works on skype...
miramar
Jul 1 2007, 03:22 PM
Which bt dongle do u have? I read somewhere that only the DLink dongle which has been flashed with Apple's firmware will support headsets. I'm not entirely sure about this. I do have 2 other dongles, one an MSI BToes 2.0 & a generic one, which I intend to test soon.
Mebster
Jul 16 2007, 12:59 AM
QUOTE(miramar @ Jun 24 2007, 06:32 PM)

OK just done testing on my 10.4.9 hackintosh. Good news(1 out of 2 ain't bad). Items involved are:
1. DLink DBT-120 bt dongle flashed with Apple Bluetooth Firmware Updater 1.2
2. Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 stereo headset
3. iTech Clip r35 stereo headset
1+2: Works! HBH-DS970 headset paired OK with the Mac. Bluetooth prefs shows as Device Type: Audio. Services include Headset, HandsFree and Remote Control among others. Selectable as Input & Ouput devices in Sound prefs. Also selectable as audio input/output in Skype. Tried a test call to echo123 and to my PC. Seems to work OK.
1+3: Does not work. iTech r35 headset paired OK with the Mac but Services listed as HandsFree, no Headset even though the r35 specs claims that it support both Headset & HandsFree profiles. Did not show up in Sound prefs as an audio i/o option. Bugger.
There ya go! Next I'll try the other bluetooth dongles that I have.
Hi mate thanks a lot for your feedback. I know I and a few other members have been waiting for someone to let us know if it's possible or not. Now we know that it is but with limited hardware.
At least we're moving forward
cybermiguel
Aug 29 2007, 03:15 AM
Actually, I have the very same problem.
I have a Broadcom BCM2045 Bluetooth USB adapter and it works with everything....BUT MY HEADSET. It simply denies to work. It says that the hardware is not compatible.
I think it may be a restriction on the bluetooth Kexts that we should get through....somehow.
Moreno53
Aug 29 2007, 04:36 AM
Hi Guys,
I just tried my Rocketfish dongle and nothing...I think I am the first one on here to not have his dongle work...any help would be appreciated
cpnraisnuts
Aug 31 2007, 03:49 AM
Linksys USBBT100 Version 2/Plantronics 502 Headset. Blutooth works, Says headset not compatible with bluetooth device
FavleX
Dec 4 2007, 11:04 AM
hi
Hi got a dongle with some weird name, so i don't know the chipset inside.
then I 've tried to pairing it with the apple keyboard wireless pro but at the beginning it works immediately, after i need to repairining it every time I log in tiger..and it doen'st work at the login neither..
Any suggestion?
FavleX
Dec 10 2007, 05:35 PM
..sorry but I need again some info.
Any one here can report the bluetooth correctly working during boot?
I mean some of u with bluetooth device as keyboard, is able to use that bfore login , at Darwin menu for example?
macgirl
Dec 10 2007, 10:23 PM
no, BT is only available after some kexts are loaded.
So no way to use BT at Darwin prompt.
When you are at Login window it works.
FavleX
Dec 11 2007, 10:54 AM
Thanks MacGirl, even if I 've read about someone who got it enabled, just switching in the BIOS to USBlegacy support.
I think it's depends on the MB used.under linux the bluetooth device start at bios level in hid mode, for switching to hic mode after the login...mmhh I need more knowledge about this.
macgirl
Dec 12 2007, 12:17 AM
great, I will test that too
FavleX
Dec 15 2007, 06:51 AM
mmhh , my DS4 MB hasn't arrived yet , but as soon I get my hands on it, I want to test the bluetooth option at boot.
@macgirl have u tested the usblegacy on yours to test it?
shoarthing
Dec 15 2007, 11:40 AM
QUOTE(FavleX @ Dec 10 2007, 06:21 PM)

..sorry but I need again some info.
Any one here can report the bluetooth correctly working during boot?
I mean some of u with bluetooth device as keyboard, is able to use that bfore login , at Darwin menu for example?

. . I have working bluetooth during POST: can access the mobo's BIOS F8 bootorder; & see boot-messages via Tab; plus Darwin F8 . . . sadly there is no true Delete key on this alloy wireless keyboard, so cannot enter the BIOS.
Both the Apple bluetooth k/b & mouse are enumerated by the P5WDH
(using the D-Link dbt-120 b4 flashed with Apple bluetooth firmware) as USB devices.
macgirl
Dec 15 2007, 04:14 PM
@FavleX not yet
Nitramusa
Dec 15 2007, 05:08 PM
QUOTE(386dx @ Oct 5 2006, 10:25 PM)

Salam,
...
You posted this in the English section of InsanelyMac, I don't know why you start speaking Arabic. Maybe you can go into the section for multiple languages and look if an Arabic section exists. My mother language isn't English too, but I have to speak English so other people who don't understand me could understand me. Also please mention that you have double post, if you look good, you can see an 'Edit' button to edit your post instead of doubleposting.
Thank you and I hope you understand me.
-Nitra
macgirl
Dec 15 2007, 08:12 PM
C'mon is just one word, you don't get upset if someone post "hasta la vista baby", or do you?
Au revoir.
FavleX
Dec 16 2007, 08:32 AM
QUOTE(shoarthing @ Dec 15 2007, 01:26 PM)

. . I have working bluetooth during POST: can access the mobo's BIOS F8 bootorder; & see boot-messages via Tab; plus Darwin F8 . . . sadly there is no true Delete key on this alloy wireless keyboard, so cannot enter the BIOS.
Both the Apple bluetooth k/b & mouse are enumerated by the P5WDH (using the D-Link dbt-120 b4 flashed with Apple bluetooth firmware) as USB devices.
Thanks, really very very good news.
So the keyboard is working without pairing it at all; I mean it's been paired but it is not necessary at boot level.
I think at that level we can consider it working in hid mode..
Have you had any possibilities to test it , on different Operative System..I mean boot linux instead of windows..
It's bad u can't remap the kboard to get the delete button at boot , it would be awesome.
Last one just a bit [OT] what do you think about Mighty Mouse is it supposed to work better than a traditional mouse?
To others , it's christmas time so friends don't be too much rude...
Ciao.
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