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msh
QUOTE(Stephan @ Apr 9 2007, 09:37 PM) *
Both cores are working after a short sleep !!!!
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=47972


Yes Both Core are now working thumbsup_anim.gif ,but only after wakeup from sleep mode. angel.png
devilhood
Yeah, it's a great discovery, just wish I could test it myself, but my sleep mode is borked tongue.gif
msh
Ok i test Xbench with 1 Core i get 81 marks on CPU Test .Now i get 85 Cpu mark with both core.Its this normal?Why is so low with both core?
devilhood
That is certainly a bit odd, can you confirm both cores being used in Activity Monitor?
Perhaps try out a different benchmarking utility.
fpppp
msh

How did you get the sleep to work?
Mine never worked and still not working! thumbsdown_anim.gif
msh
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 10 2007, 08:30 PM) *
That is certainly a bit odd, can you confirm both cores being used in Activity Monitor?
Perhaps try out a different benchmarking utility.


Yes Both core are being use in Activity Monitor.Wich other CPU Bench mark software can i download?

I notice that web browser Opera is very slow when i enlagre page size to full 180%,and when my display size is 1920X1200.
If i chose my display size to 1024X768,then every thing is fast,i can scrool page fast.
Parallels is working fast too when my display size is 1024X768.
I think thats because Titan.kext Nvidia driver is not get 100% out of my Nvidia display card.


QUOTE(fpppp @ Apr 11 2007, 01:26 AM) *
msh

How did you get the sleep to work?
Mine never worked and still not working! thumbsdown_anim.gif


I Just install Jas 10.4.6 disc and upgraded too Jas 10.4.8,then update to 10.4.9 Combo update.
I Have Nvidia Geforce 7800go card install with Titan.kext
devilhood
msh, try Geekbench: http://www.primatelabs.ca/geekbench/

It's interesting how Sleep seems to elude the people that don't have it working upon first install.
What BIOS revision are you using? perhaps Dell made some alterations to the BIOS that has broken Sleep support on Hackintoshes, I'm using A07.
In any case, Sleep used to work for me with JaS' 10.4.8 on Clamshell close, but it wouldn't wake from Clamshell open.
There has to be some element from the JaS installs that is keeping Sleep from breaking.
msh
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 11 2007, 12:30 PM) *
msh, try Geekbench: http://www.primatelabs.ca/geekbench/

It's interesting how Sleep seems to elude the people that don't have it working upon first install.
What BIOS revision are you using? perhaps Dell made some alterations to the BIOS that has broken Sleep support on Hackintoshes, I'm using A07.
In any case, Sleep used to work for me with JaS' 10.4.8 on Clamshell close, but it wouldn't wake from Clamshell open.
There has to be some element from the JaS installs that is keeping Sleep from breaking.


I have Bios revision A07.Try upgrade from JaS 10.4.6 to 10.4.9,maybe that help.
salvatore
QUOTE(msh @ Apr 11 2007, 10:57 AM) *
I have Bios revision A07.Try upgrade from JaS 10.4.6 to 10.4.9,maybe that help.
Dell released BIOS A08 recently, FWIW. I have yet to try it with OS X.

.sal
msh
I try Geekbench in OS X ,Vista and WinXP.

In Vista i get 1746 Score
In WinXP i get 1843 Score
In OS X i get 2871 Score

But i notice that Web browser Opera is Very fast in WinXP(Scrooling page up and down)
In Vista is little slow then XP,but in OS X it's very slow.
I think this have to do something with Nvidia driver.

I hope Omni release faster Nvidia driver.
devilhood
QUOTE(salvatore @ Apr 11 2007, 04:16 PM) *
Dell released BIOS A08 recently, FWIW. I have yet to try it with OS X.

.sal


Many thanks for the news update, I will give it a try biggrin.gif

Edit: Ok, BIOS update didn't change anything noticeable nor have they addressed the lack of AHCI.

Disappointing sad.gif

Actually, this BIOS seems to have caused some sort of boot device instability as sometimes it freezes before booting from my HD.

The problem occured for the first few reboots but has now magically vanished blink.gif
fpppp
devilhood

What about people with GMA950 card?
Does GMA950 make any difference in sleep issue?
quasar_x
QUOTE(fpppp @ Apr 11 2007, 04:46 PM) *
devilhood

What about people with GMA950 card?
Does GMA950 make any difference in sleep issue?


I have scanned various threads for the "Dell sleep issue" (Inspiron E1505/6400/9400), but didn't yet find anyone with a GMA950 that wakes up after sleep.

Same on my Inspiron 6400. It goes to sleep, but upon wake up it is only the display that "keeps sleeping". I would really like to get this working since it seems interlinked with the non-working dual-core on Dell notebooks.
devilhood
Yeah, some motherboards have the option to force display/gfx card re-initialization upon wake from sleep, that would probably help this issue, it's just a shame there is hardly any configurability in the Dell BIOS.
quasar_x
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 11 2007, 06:26 PM) *
Yeah, some motherboards have the option to force display/gfx card re-initialization upon wake from sleep, that would probably help this issue, it's just a shame there is hardly any configurability in the Dell BIOS.


In the A13 BIOS on my 6400, there are at least sleep/wakeup-options for SATA and USB now. I have played around with them, but it didn't help. The issue seems to be more display/CPU-related.
I agree that the BIOS is rather crippled, at least compared to different desktop-BIOS I have used. Well, it's not only Dell in fact. Have you read about the MiniPCI-card restrictions in Thinkpads? There is also a hack for it, but not everyone feels comfortable flashing an unknown Chinese beta-hack-BIOS on their $1500 laptop. rolleyes.gif
devilhood
rofl tongue.gif
sj1069
There is also a strange thing happened to me.
After enbaling both cores on my DELL9400, once a while, there will be an interuption during the start up. Sometimes before the APPLE boot screen appears, and some times in the middle of it. the boot screen will disappear and there is only a line of words on the top of the screen --- "localhost:root#".
After i typed in "reboot" for 3 times, the system just came back.

Originally I thought it had something to do with the speedstep patcher. Now it seems to be also related with the duo core problem.

By the way, I am currently using the IONetwork.kext from 10.4.3 and 10.4.6, sometimes, with the network status showing that i am connected to internet via builtin ethernet, I am not able to get access to the internet. I don't know this is related with OSX or the Parellel Desktop I installed. Will try to figure out somehow.

good night guys.

Something stranger.

After enabling both cores, the earphone seems stopped working, though i still can have sound from the built in speakers.

I am so wondering what had dell done to the bios to make it such unbelievablly shitty.



how difficult is it for some talents to rewrite the bios...........


looking forward to that day
devilhood
The problems you experienced with dual-core enabled is because it makes the system completely unstable.
It's like trying to drive a car with the engine cutting out randomly, hence why you kept getting the localhost:root# prompt.
The reason for dual-core not working properly is because the 2nd core is set to put itself in a sleep state when the system initializes; this is because of how Dell set their Power Management options in the BIOS. When you put the laptop to Sleep and Wake it, both cores re-initialize together and work as they should.
You only need to use the IONetworkingFamily from 10.4.6, not 10.4.3.
Rewriting the BIOS will be quite a tough task because it involves reverse engineering and then finding a willing volunteer to void their warranty with a hacked BIOS tongue.gif
sj1069
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 12 2007, 02:24 PM) *
The problems you experienced with dual-core enabled is because it makes the system completely unstable.
It's like trying to drive a car with the engine cutting out randomly, hence why you kept getting the localhost:root# prompt.
The reason for dual-core not working properly is because the 2nd core is set to put itself in a sleep state when the system initializes; this is because of how Dell set their Power Management options in the BIOS. When you put the laptop to Sleep and Wake it, both cores re-initialize together and work as they should.
You only need to use the IONetworkingFamily from 10.4.6, not 10.4.3.
Rewriting the BIOS will be quite a tough task because it involves reverse engineering and then finding a willing volunteer to void their warranty with a hacked BIOS tongue.gif


thx first.

do you think it's possible to require dell to reverse that for us? smile.gif

'cause i remember after changing a new motherboard for me (due to the parity problem in windows, which the dell support belived to be related with the motherboard or memory), I actually was left with a notebook starting in the engineering mode 2 months ago, and i personally pressed Fn&X and installed the A07 bios. (i hate my self for doing that now ........)
anyway, i am not quite familiar with the technics, but can we requiring dell the do the reverse?
devilhood
To get the board to start in engineering mode we need to somehow break the Service Tag information, because once that information is present, the board sadly locks itself.

For those with an ATI X1400, I just added information on how to get it working (I should have added it a long time ago) tongue.gif
devilhood
I posted a complaint up on the Dell community forums regarding the lack of AHCI mode; it would be great if all of you with NCQ compatible hard drives could also post on the same thread, hopefully this issue will be recognized and fixed with a future BIOS if they see a large number of responses.

Click Here for the thread.
sj1069
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 13 2007, 11:23 AM) *
I posted a complaint up on the Dell community forums regarding the lack of AHCI mode; it would be great if all of you with NCQ compatible hard drives could also post on the same thread, hopefully this issue will be recognized and fixed with a future BIOS if they see a large number of responses.

Click Here for the thread.


already replied in the name of markbose. (strange my screen name sj1069 won't be accepted by the forum, strange Dell again)
sj1069
newest news

i found out today the earphone problem which i though to be caused by enabling both cores.

however, today i found out it is because the sleep and wake up course. with only one core enabled, i still lost the output through the earphone after waking up.

will keep updated.

nice weekend guys.
fumanju
thanks for the guide, got my E1405 working...*knock on wood*...I used Jas 10.4.8 AMD Intel SSE2 SSE3 with PPF1 & PPF2 iso, no video issue with GMA 950, again *knock on wood*...i'm gonna go update it to 10.4.9 now, after getting the LAN and sound working...so which 9200 dump should I use? there're so many.
sj1069
QUOTE(fumanju @ Apr 15 2007, 07:39 AM) *
thanks for the guide, got my E1405 working...*knock on wood*...I used Jas 10.4.8 AMD Intel SSE2 SSE3 with PPF1 & PPF2 iso, no video issue with GMA 950, again *knock on wood*...i'm gonna go update it to 10.4.9 now, after getting the LAN and sound working...so which 9200 dump should I use? there're so many.


if you have a sigmatel 9200 HD, i believe this will work
http://psykopat.free.fr/apple/AppleHDA/sig...igmatel9200.txt
which worked for me with no problems.
devilhood
Yeah there are quite a lot of them, but most of the STAC9200 codecs seem to work even though each dump differs slightly.
fumanju
devilhood, just wondering, are you able to close the lid of your laptop? how about sleep? also, whats the deal with command key, is there a hack for that?

i hope you don't mind me asking in this thread, I have an E1405, it's pretty similar, except i have core 2 duo and gma 950.
devilhood
It's cool, the guide pretty much applies to nearly all Dell laptops really because I wrote it covering most of basics as well as the specific hardware involved.
I can close the lid, but the screen stays on and the laptop doesn't sleep. When I was using 10.4.8 the laptop would sleep after closing the lid with NvidiaEFI.
I think if you install the JaS 10.4.8 v1p defiant disk util ISO then update using JaS' 10.4.9 Combo package, it will keep sleep working but you might need to press the power button to bring it out of sleep after lid close.
The command key thing, never tried to change it so I have no idea.
quasar_x
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 15 2007, 06:51 PM) *
It's cool, the guide pretty much applies to nearly all Dell laptops really because I wrote it covering most of basics as well as the specific hardware involved.
I can close the lid, but the screen stays on and the laptop doesn't sleep. When I was using 10.4.8 the laptop would sleep after closing the lid with NvidiaEFI.
I think if you install the JaS 10.4.8 v1p defiant disk util ISO then update using JaS' 10.4.9 Combo package, it will keep sleep working but you might need to press the power button to bring it out of sleep after lid close.


I'm on an Inspiron E1505/6400, used JaS 10.4.8 v1p first and then upgraded to 10.4.9 using various kernel versions. In all cases my laptop would sleep when closing the lid. When I try to wake up by opening the lid and pressing the power button, everything wakes up except for the screen, which stays dark. Only a manual patch/hack that reactivates the screen after a wake-event could help.

QUOTE
The command key thing, never tried to change it so I have no idea.


Several keys are mixed up and the "Alt Gr" key only works if you reconfigure the keys. Some special characters are still in the wrong order afterwards. Still need to manually configure keys, but still haven't had the time to do that.
devilhood
quasar_x, I'm not sure if it would help, but did you try the LaptopDisplay kext? maybe that might help the re-initialization of the screen.
devilhood
Ok guys, I just changed the thread title and tweaked the guide to support a wider variety of Dell laptops.
If there is any information missing then please tell me ASAP smile.gif
fumanju
in regards to the Command (Apple) key, I found out that it was mapped to Alt key by default. Also, the Option key was mapped to the Windows key.

I used a program called DoubleCommand, search the forum. It allows for the remapping of certain keys. Right now I have my Ctrl key as the Command key which helps a lot since I'm used to using keyboard shortcuts on PC, i.e. Ctrl+X for cut, now, when I need to cut, I just press Ctrl+X on my keyboard and it's equivalent to a Command+X combo. I don't know how Ctrl key is used in Mac OS X, but I mapped the Windows key as the Ctrl key, so all is good.
fpppp
quasar_x, Have you tried laptopdisplay.kext?
I have same sleep problem with my E1705 with GMA950.
It does go to sleep with closing the lid, but can not get screen to come on.
sj1069
QUOTE(fumanju @ Apr 15 2007, 01:27 PM) *
devilhood, just wondering, are you able to close the lid of your laptop? how about sleep? also, whats the deal with command key, is there a hack for that?

i hope you don't mind me asking in this thread, I have an E1405, it's pretty similar, except i have core 2 duo and gma 950.


I think this will help about the lid closing and sleep.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=13830
fumanju
I tried to install it but kept getting error about permission or something like that.

I followed the directions but I could have made a mistake, in fact, i probably did...this past few days being my first in dealing with Mac OS X...I've dabble with *nix before but only a little...

I'll also give PowerManagement bundle fix a try

Starting from scratch, gotta restore Vista, reinstall OS X, and hopefully get a clean XP on a third FAT32 partition. Right now i'm trying to resize Vista partition so i'd have enough room for the other two partitions. Kinda lame that you can't add a second HDD on a Dell E1405. What happened to the good old days of modular bays, i rarely need to use the DVD burner...anyone know of a way to stick a HDD in that slot?
sonofacpu
There's a new BIOS update for Dell Inspiron 6400 notebooks. It supposely updates Intel processor microcode. Maybe it help with the cores problem. It still stutters for me, but it is much more bearable. See for yourself ^^
Pyroman
QUOTE(sonofacpu @ Apr 16 2007, 04:21 AM) *
There's a new BIOS update for Dell Inspiron 6400 notebooks. It supposely updates Intel processor microcode. Maybe it help with the cores problem. It still stutters for me, but it is much more bearable. See for yourself ^^



I have this bios(a14), but the problem is not a bug in the bios, so the bios change do not fix this! sad.gif
devilhood
Pyro, the dual-core stutter exists because of the Power Management configuration in the BIOS that Dell has implemented, but because we aren't supposed to be running Mac OS X on Dell's, it's not something they will end up fixing.
We can always hope though, I suppose.

QUOTE(sj1069 @ Apr 16 2007, 02:01 AM) *
I think this will help about the lid closing and sleep.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=13830


Insomnia just prevents the laptop from sleep completely.
fpppp
Fixing BIOS is all up to Dell.
I don't think we are going to get that fixed anytime soon.
What we have to figure out is to get 'sleep and wake ' to work on every Dell notebook.
Then all need to is to write a script/hack to make Dell to sleep and wake right after boot up.
But I am noob on OSX.... thumbsdown_anim.gif
It is just my opinion.
devilhood
Yeah, the Sleep/Wake state would need to be activated as early as possible to avoid any unstable boot-ups.

As soon as my RMA'd mobo comes for my desktop computer, I'll re-install the Mac on my laptop from JaS' 10.4.8 disc, then I'll do the usual and test if Sleep works on a clean install.
If it works, I'll try updating via JaS' 10.4.9 Combo, but if it doesn't work, I'll try Paulicat's SpeedStep S3 Sleep package.
At least this way we will have a definite answer that I can put in the guide.
fumanju
Installed Insomnia and PowerManagement, I can say that closing the lid doesnt put the laptop to sleep anymore. However, screen goes off when lid is close and doesnt come back on when lid is opened again. It's gonna be kinda hard not to close the lid when you're out and about. I can live with not being able to put the laptop to sleep since boot time is relatively fast compared to windows, booting up OS X is like booting up from hibernation. Oh well, at least everything (most other things) work and that's worth some cookies.
devilhood
I haven't had much experience with Insomnia, but whether or not it is supposed to prevent the display from turning off, I have no idea.
Can anyone else confirm this apart from fumanju?
tErbo b00st
I have the same problem as fumanjo on a E1505 core Duo.

It's really pissin me off, I closed my lid constantly on XP with the computer on. I could care less if it went into sleep when I closed it, I just want my screen to turn back on!!!
fumanju
is there any way to write a script that tell OS X to shut down if the lid is closed? or if the power button is pressed "once". I don't like the idea of a hard shutdown. It's not good for the harddrive, especially if there's HDD activity.

I mean, the point to it is that OS X will shut down itself if the lid is closed instead of the user pressing and holding down the power button since there's no way to get the screen to turn back on and that the computer has to reboot anyway.
devilhood
Just a little update... I tested a kernel recently that managed to fix almost all of the dual-core stuttering, but the boot process was a bit messed up.
Perhaps it 'can' be solved via the kernel after-all!

I'll keep you posted.
quasar_x
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 19 2007, 08:14 PM) *
Just a little update... I tested a kernel recently that managed to fix almost all of the dual-core stuttering, but the boot process was a bit messed up.
Perhaps it 'can' be solved via the kernel after-all!

I'll keep you posted.


Well, now you left us all curious what "a kernel" stands for... wink.gif
devilhood
It was something that Kiko, DaemonES and Paulicat put together I believe.

But since the boot process was fuc£$% I wouldn't get too excited just yet tongue.gif
sj1069
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 19 2007, 10:04 PM) *
It was something that Kiko, DaemonES and Paulicat put together I believe.

But since the boot process was fuc£$% I wouldn't get too excited just yet tongue.gif



Still great to know. Thanks again.
fpppp
QUOTE(devilhood @ Apr 19 2007, 09:14 PM) *
Just a little update... I tested a kernel recently that managed to fix almost all of the dual-core stuttering, but the boot process was a bit messed up.
Perhaps it 'can' be solved via the kernel after-all!

I'll keep you posted.


Is sleep/wake work properly in new kernel that you are testing?
It is good news that dual core problem can be fixed via kernel. thumbsup_anim.gif
devilhood
fpppp and the rest: come to irc channel #appleacpi on the irc.osx86.hu network and you'll be able to try it out too tongue.gif
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