There are several revisions.

130nm semprons have SSE2d, if its socket 754 (ill leave socket a out, as its just a rebranded athlon xp anyways)
first revision 90nm (winchester like) have SSE2 only aswell.
Second revision (venice like) have SSE3. (90nm)

They are just variations in cores.

I Have Centrino 1.5Ghz .... SSE2 how do I have to patch the ISO image for running Rosetta?

What do I have to use for it?

I have already the Maklar-Tiger.iso image and I'll patch it now with the [b]Maklar-tiger-patch-release1.ppf (using ppf-o-matic3).

What else do I have to do?... I have too the SSEPatcher.exe ....do this program patch the SSE2 processor automactly? or must the image be patched too?

thanks.

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ socket 939 and it seems it has only see & see2, if i install osx86 it will run ok, with no problems? :S

Hold on there, sport.

1.) Apple has no interest in licensing this for PC's.
2.) How would it be losing business if they did and your PC couldn't run it? They wouldn't lose customers they never had in the first place.
3.) Apple's hardware is what it's designed to run on. Therefore if you want it to run, get hardware that closely matches Apple's hardware.
4.) Unless you're a dev trying to get this software off your dev box and onto your personal box, or unless you've donated (not that I have, mind you, though I really should because the info is so excellent) to great sites like this, you haven't paid $.01 for the development. There are awesome people in this community who have gotten as much running on as much hardware as possible. I, for one, am thankful.

my cpu is a semp. 2600, i have it running at 2.25ghz (this cpu is able to take a major overclock) OSX is running wonderful. boots in about 18 sec. It is stable, and fast, and just for the hell of it, i "compared" to a duel 2ghz G5 that i use at work...

10x10, 300 DPI photoshop file, created a gradient fill, gave it a radial blur set at 70... results... G5 18 sec... Semp. 21 sec... the sempron of course is running photoshop in rosetta...

I have to say... i am not disappointed with the speed of the overclocked sempron cpu... One more thing... i'm not sure it is normal with the SSE2 patch applied... (during install i assumed my CPU didn't have SSE3) but the system profiler says SSE3 is a supported tech.

(this is of course a sempron 754-64bit)

my question is how come no one has made a site iwth the following kernels. or all the possible combinations of the following

RTC / NO RTC
CPUID / NO CPUID
NX(DX) / NO NX(DX)
SSE2 / SSE3

I'm trying to find a way to get my mach_kernel.orig to be RTC and SSE3 ONLY.

because i know my computer supports NX and SSE3, and i dont know what the CPUID does but im guessing it has to do with the naming of the processor. If i can get it to say AMD Opteron 165 Dual Core then i'd appreciate it if someone just gave me some instructions because running the kernel without patches through darwin ends up giving me a double panic, so it's either the CPUID or the RTC.

and all the other posts i made got NO replies for something that's been talked about but never tutorialed.

and for some stupid reason the patches that are released all have CPUID undo, and RTC Undo, NX/DX undo..... but no SSE3 undo.

And i followed the instructions on how to run the kernels and whatever with no SSE3.... but it JUST PANICS!

so i want to atleast know how i can do this in either a windows or a osx environment without having to download an entire new DVD or something like that. all i'm asking for is somenoe to provide different mach_kernel flavours for 10.4.3 so that i may test which one works best.

that cant be so hard, can it? its not like im asking someone to write nVidia drivers.
i just this really weird stuttering problem after a while of use, and i'm thinking it has something to do with NX or SSE3... both of which i support, but are patched out in my current kernel. and if CPUID will not do any harm, but just change the name of my processor, that'd be damn sweet too.

i'm gonna try it on my latitude c600 and i'll tell ya how it goes mines 1ghz though

After reading many posts i finally figured out that my computer is too old


my g5 sits next to it, so its not that bad....


for all the people that dont know that much about hardware... (ie myself)

when you boot from the cd and it says press F8 for more options, boot with the -v option


there will then be a line cpu features: this is were you find out you have a crappy cpu with SSE only

To clear up the speculation, I have a Sempron 3000+ *32 Bit* cpu in my laptop. It also has SSE3 support. So for all the nay sayers out there, i have proven you wrong. Great chip, just wish it had more than 128 L2 at times...

aha.i own intel p4 2.4c ,it's work fine~

I also have some cpu problems... I've got an Athlon 64 3700 with San Diego core which should support SSE3, CpuZ on Windows x64 shows it. But the system profiler doesn't show it. I'm worried about that. My internet browsing is very slow (Safari, Camino, Firefox, Netscape 7.2) although i have full internet speed (220 kbit/s+). Could this depend on the missing ppc emulator? I can't find rosetta in the system. I read sometimes, that the DVDplayer will have problems in this cases, but it works and also iTunes, but I can't configure iTunes, only have an empty windows which I can't close. I had this problem on other programs, like Power20 or Power64. My system profiler also says that I have no ram modules installed but 16 GB RAM... shiish.

Has anyone an idea about that?

or buy a new mobo and cpu.. not really that expensive.

ive seen a coupl of posts saying that people have been able to run osx86 on sse, and ive seen post saying it cant be don. which is it?

It can't.

i had the problem "no sse3 on sse3 cpu"

original $199 hackintosh (celeron d, asrock p4dual) with cpuid limit off in bios. 10.4.5 myzar (?) dvd install.

so far no sse3

solution: original kernel from Maxxuss_Patch_Solution_v1.0a_1045 with applied patches base, nonx and amd_enabler.

this finally did it. there is visible improvement on expose, and xbench of course.

phew!

I'm having the exact same issue, SSE3 is not showing up in my system profiler event though it is an SSE3 cpu.

Spacest, can you please post a detail instruction on how you got it to work? Your post was a little vauge regarding the steps you took.

Thanks.

I have the same issuse on my Pentium D 805. I know it supports SSE3 (cpuz in windows) but only SSE2 in OS X. I have Mac OS X 10.4.5 (8G1454).



Are you saying to install this even if we have Intel CPUs?

My computer support SSE2 and SSE3??
i don't understand this image!
please help me!

@Acido: No. Your CPU only supports SSE. CPU-Z showns no SSE2, no SSE3. Therefore, due to lack of SSE2, you're not able to install Mac OS X on your AMD. Sorry to spoil your hope!


@all: If you have an Mac OS running and want to see if your CPU, means SSE3, is really supported, just use Maxxuss' emulator-tool. It should come with the patch and is called "maxxuss_sse". Open a terminal and run "maxxuss_sse -i" (without quotes, of course). It should display some stats. If every value is "0", the emulator has nothing to do and your CPU's SSE3 is supported by Mac OS X. If are the values greater than 0, the emulator has detected SSE3-commands that can't be handled by the CPU. Also, in this tool, you'll find a little benchmark to compute the overhead for SSE3-emulating on your machine, just look in the usage by entering "maxxuss_sse" only.

Don't be afraid of an patched kernel (like the JaS-Patch floating around) even on a SSE3 CPU! Even a patched kernel will work properly with an SSE3 equipped CPU! The emulator just has nothing to do and wont be activated.



dripple

@acido: If you wanna have at lest a mac feeling on your machine, try this link: http://osx.portraitofakite.com/
I'm using it since V1.0 and don't wanna miss it. I prefer the V2 release.

greetinX from the Other Side!

thanks a lot

I have a Athlon XP 3200+, and it supports SSE and SSE3, no SSE2. Is there a way to tell the mac OSX to always use SSE3 and skip SSE2 all together, because I just get stuck at the spinning gray OS X boot screen.

I think there is a another problem. Try booting in verbose mode (press andn hold F8 while power up and then enter into the commandline -v) and have a look at the output. There must be a warning or error apearing on the screen.

dripple

I Have PC: Sempron 64 2800+ (SSE2,SSE3 if believe in CPU-Z)
ASUS K8N4-E(NForce4-4x,PCI-E, etc.)
512Mb DDR-400 Ram, 160GB Seagate 7200.9 SATAII, 80GB Seagate 7200.7 IDE, 128Mb ATI Radeon x550 (128bit) and Keyboard and mouse USB and PS/2 too
I Have OS: MacOS X 10.4.4 to 10.4.5 by Myz Bootable DVD

Can you say me, What is trouble: I can't install it NATIVE mode.... HELP ME ~___~

@iTux: Sempron Socket 754 or 939?

There maybe some other posts for installation but I know that it can be frustrating to do this research. Here are my experiences which I made to get it run.

OS: Check the Image. I used the 10.4.5 prepatched version. It's not too easy to find, but I still have a t*rrent for it. I read somewhere that it must be burned to a DVD-R, a RW media won't work. It worked fine on my MSI Neo4 Platinum with nVidia 4 chipset and Radeon X1600 card.
HD: OSX could only be installed on the IDE ports of the NVidia 4 chipset, it won't recognize the SATA controller.
DVD: Must be set to master, if it's set to slave the installation will hang.

Installation process:

Make sure that you've got an empty IDE HD for testing. Maybe not too big, I had a 20 Gb HD for testing. It is possible to use mixed Windoze/Mac partitions, but try that later. Set it to primary master.
If the DVD works it should show a message of some kind of HD unit, ignore it. After this you should get the grey MacOS screen with the rotating busy logo. If the DVD-ROM stops working after some time, it could be a problem with the graphics interface "couldn't match family graphics" always appeared during system boot. After this you should select the language. If the installation starts, select the 'Disk Utility', select your hard drive (if it's present) and erase it. Then select it for installation. Tip: Use custom install and deselect all languages you don't need. It saves a LOT of disk space. The installation took about an hour on my machine with an Athlon 64 3700.
After the installation MacOS wants to reboot. The system may hang. On some machines a reboot won't work, but shutdown will. Others have the same problem. You probably won't get the grey MacOS boot screen, only a wild amount of text scrolling around. Another problem which other users also have. The machine will probably hang some time while it's trying to initialize the graphics display. After this you'll get the installation intro and you have to set some things like network address and so on. Skip the .mac network. After the reboot the default language is set back to English. If you're using another language, you have change it in the system preferences. Don't install System Updates, they cold kill the OS.

Yo, that was it. You have to use the Marvell LAN port, the NVidia Chipset LAN won't work. Look in the wiki to get it run. Internet and Windows Network should run immediately. Bluetooth runs fine via USB stick. If you have a mobile phone with Bluetooth, try to find it, using 'search for all devices'. It worked superb with my Motorola V620.

Wish you luck for installation and have fun with MacOS!

GreetinX from the Other Side!

Addendum: If the DVD-ROM stops working after some time due to the graphics ini problem, it should CONTINUE automatically after a some time, maybe a minute or so. If it still hangs, you maybe have a OSX version without the AMD enabler.
Graphics mode will be 1024x768 after entering the system. I used 1280x1024 by modifing the apple.ini.boot, but only in 60 Hz.
On my system internet browsing was VERY slow with all tested browsers (Safari, Camino, Firefox, Netscape 7.2), alhtough it was using the full rate of my 2 Mbit line, downloads were up tho 225 kB/s.

GreetinX from the other Side! (come over man!)

Sempron 64 on Socket 754
I try install with my video card on other computer (Athlon 64 (939) 3000+ Epox EP-* Socket 939, 1024mB Ram and my HDD
and GOOD install
I try boot on my hardware... don't boot

I wait install but nothing doing....

DVD+/-RW Toshiba

It seems that you've got the wrong image. I had the same problem, the installation stuck after a while, watching the busy logo. The image I used was named osx86_10.4.4__10.4.5_prepatched_Install_DVD. This one worked for me.

GreetinX from the Other Side!

Why it load onto other Athlon PC but not onto my ???
My Mother Board is ASUS K8N4-E maybe in this trobles *__*
I search into some internet but i can't search info about install MacOS X onto this board ~_~

If I buy That PC:
Epox EP-9NPA3Ultra
Athlon 64 3000+
IDE,SATA my
Video my
DVD my

Would you say me IT WORKED WITH OSX86_10.4.4_10.4.5 by Myz ^__^/???

For hardware info show in the osx86 wiki in the compatibility list.
For the DVD search for this specified image:

osx86_10.4.4__10.4.5_prepatched_Install_DVD.3451644.TPB

I patched 3 different images which were in the net, none of it was working. After several failures I was asking another user with the same mainboard as mine for a good image and he told me to use this image. It works great on my system, and your system is similar to mine, Athlon 64/939, NVidia 4, PCI Express... what Graphics board? It's a MSI Radeon X1600XT on my system, 'cause the Intel Macs were originally equipped with the X1600 chipset.

Search for this OS version. And tell me what graphics card u use?

GreetinX from the Other Side!

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P.S.: *** I got an ASUS K8N-E Deluxe with Athlon 3400 Clawhammer for €142! Five seconds before auction was ending! (shiver)
If it works, I can tell you more to definitive this board. Wish me luck that it works!

AMD rulez!

I have realy that image(disk) and i have trouble with Native Installation, but Install onto VMWare 5.5 Goood ~___~
NATIVE INTALL (TROUBLES):
NetInfo connection failedd for server 127.0.0.1/local

Can't load /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/NetInfo.framework/Resources/lookupd/Agents/DS.bundle/DS

Error: copyAirPortSCPrefsRef caan't commit preferences: No Such Key
Wireless AirPortDevicesNameCopy () : no AirPort driver found


I haven't WIRELESS

ASUS K8N-E Deluxe with Athlon 3400 Clawhammer will work with MacOS X 10.4.5 by Myz ^__^/???

I also have an AMD 64 3000+ 754 but Rosetta doesn't work most Apps crash or don't open.
Did u get it working?

Also wondering if getting a Sempron 64 is a good replacement for this Clawhammer.

How model of your Mother Board, and What chip she have

Hey, why're you guys so quiet at the moment? Nothing new?
I'm getting my new board next time, hope it will run. Got me a new tower in which MacOS will feel better.



GreetinX from the Other Side!

Just started the download of OSX 10.4.6, found in eM*le. 9 days remaining... Hope's worth the time.

GreetinX from the Other Side!

I do it !!! ^____^
I flash my bois to 1006 from 1005 and off my Lan into bios....
It was installed. But i have some troubles:
1) I haven't network
2) I can't switch Quartz Extreme ON
3) I can't use my Modem in MacOS

But i can use my Printer and Sound in NATIVE ^____^


I start download 10.4.6.install.dvd by Modem Internet, and my stat 5% ^___^

You try to download a 4.38 GB image by MODEM? I hope it's a dsl modem or something... or isn't it...? 56kbps or something?

I used in mid 90's BTX (German online service, not available anymore) with my C64 and a 1200pbs modem. No problem 'cause it was only text-based. But's still no problem to get online with C64: ConTiki supports full internet access, it's a ethernet adapter available: The RRnet. With a SuperCPUed C128 you browse with The Wave on Wheels (OS) in 640x200 b/w. One is sure: These machines are ABSOLUTELY virus-proof!

Wow, download's now with over 52kb/s, 28,7% finished, 17 hours left. Go on man!

GreetinX from the Other Side!

I crazy, i download by 56k modem ^____^
And i tired. Do you Burn for Me this image, and i will buy from you
But i can't buy if price over 7$

If shipping a DVD from Germany is beyond $7 this would be no problem :-)

GreetinX from the behind the big pond!

Hey buddies, got the image already If you have it on your disk, you can't open it at first 'cause the filename contains not displayable characters (filename [??????].Mac.OS.X.Tiger.10.4.6.X86.iso). Here's one possible solution for renaming with unusual characters: Open a DOS prompt in this directory and enter

ren *tiger*.iso tiger.iso

After this you can rename it normally. The file is a hybrid image, you have to open it in UltraISO or with MacDrive to access HFS+.
But now there's something what worries me. The image has the exact file length (4,698,669,056 bytes) of an image named 'MacOSX_10.4.4DVDPATCHED_Myz.iso' which I already had in march. And I found no big differences, f.e. in file sizes. The same is in comparison to the working 10.4.5 prepatched version I used, it looks just the same.

Can't test it yet, still waiting for my new mainboard. So long...

GreetinX from the Other Side!

Hi, i tried i can't watch my films because my MacBox still Slow.... when i patched ATIRadeon9700.kext, i might change RESOLUTION but can't switch to 85Hz.....
How to switch my monitor into 85 Hz from 60 ~____~ (My eyes was tried)

Hi! I got the image a few days ago... it is then 10.4.6 image.

But this is all what's noticeable about this... it won't work. I can install it and so on, but after reboot debugger called 'panic' and stopped booting. I installed the 10.4.5 image again and it was running immediately.

iTux: Let the 10.4.6 go and try to find the 10.4.5 image. If you made a mega-long modem download for something what probably not works, this would be frustrating. Maybe it's quicker if I'll send it to you.

My board and CPU I got from ebay are working :-D MacOS boots in less then 10 seconds, due to xbench it's sometimes faster as a dual-G5 @ 2 GHz.

Here are some tips for installing:

Selcet custom install and deselect all you don't need. It saves a lot of space. I reduced all language packs to the one I need, only the Gimp printer driver and X11 as addon. I saved 2 GB disk space!! Installation will be faster, too.
If you're wondering why during booting you have only text and not the apple logo, look in the apple.boot file (I always forget the right name). There's an entry 'Kernel options', with the next line is '-v'. remove the '-v' and you'll get the apple logo at boot. If you want to look for available screenmodes for changing the resoultion, type ?video before booting. If you want to edit and save the file with the normal TextEdit, you have enable saving to write-protect files. The drawer must be set to readable and writeable. (I think it was Root/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration).

GreetinX from the Other Side!

iTux: for eye training: buy an Amiga. If you used interlace @25 Hz for years like me, low frequencies won't bother you

I made the experience that the screenrates depend on monitor, resolution and machine. An C64 on TV or an 1084 monitor at 50Hz is no problem, also good Amiga AGA modes like Multiscan 640x480 at 62 Hz on 1942 or VGA Monitor. Standard Amiga video modes with 50 Hz don't look good on the 1942. But a PC with 1280x1024 at 60-70 Hz is bad. Or the booting screen with connected TV cable at 50 Hz, it's not to stand it. I'm using Windows and MacOS now on an 21"-Eizo-Monitor, Windows at about 80 Hz and MacOs still at 60Hz, and it isn't problematic for me.

But anyway, I need a new gfx card. My ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 8500DV is cool, especially 'cause of the two built-in Firewire-ports (!) But it's to slow for MacOS. OpenGL is absolute slow, the screensaver's movement is in stop-motion, fullscreen iTunes visualization is not possible. Some programs crashes cause of this problem. In the dashboard I don't have the wave effect when opening a new widget.
I found a Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis 256 MB DDR DVI on ebay. In spare I have an MSI X1300 which should be for my next board, but it's PCI-Express, so I can't use it. Has anyone experience with the 9x00 chipsets, especially about the OpenGL speed? Would be cool.

GreetinX from the Other Side.

LOL.
I wanna buy new Video Card x700 or should best x1600 (original supported by Apple). How say Tiger " I might flash my card to change 60Hz to 85Hz, but i can't doing this, because my Card is not SUPPORTED that FLASHROM ("ATI card not found") LOL.

I was searched in Internet for Informartion about flash my Video Card, i was not searched. T_T/~HELP

Yes, I have an X1600 for PCI-E, too (not an X1300, I had one before). I bought this card an a board supporting PCI-Express only because it's best suitable for MacOS. But I had no better screen rates and resolutions as with my actual card, only OpenGL was faster. I think I will look for an ATI X-Series card for AGP, too. ATI does great cards, I have an 32MB Rage Pro All-In-Wonder which does 2048x1536x32 in 85 Hz on my 21" monitor.

{censored} damned Windows installation: wanted to install Windows as a 2nd OS for testing dual boot. I selected another partition on a second hard drive for installtion - and it started to format my Mac HD!! Arrgh! System wasn't bootable anymore. <hgn> I begun to reinstall MacOS - and as I started the drive tool to format my old system partition - there was my volume 'Tiger' again! I selected 'repair volume' to be sure, it said 'nothing to repair'. System's booting and running normal again! Has ANYONE of you heard that a Windows installation CD repairs a defective Windows without asking for it? MacOS is GREAT!!!!!

Thanks to the developer who put the early x86 DVD in the net - if it wasn't Steve Jobs himself :-)

GreetinX from the Other Side!

Hey guys, just installed dual boot. The solution with the chain0 file is absolutely easy and safe.

GreetinX from the Other Side!

Event with a "supported" graphic card, iTunes won't visualize fullscreen. This is because iTunes want's to change the resolution to 640x480 and with the actual driver situation, this is not possible.

Before I changed back to a real Mac, I equipped my PC with a 9800XT 128MB and it works fine with Mac OS X. It was recognized during boot up and OpenGL, QE and CI where supported. But from then, this anoying "Mouse Tearing" was happening. :-(

Hmmm... I can't remember if I got fullscreen visualization with my X1600 card. But there's an x1600 for AGP, too. About 170 EUR...

I tried the last days some bigger applications. Office 2004 and Toast 7 runs fine, some others, too. But on many programs I have a problem: They only open a white, empty window. This makes it impossible to install some programs. Sometimes if works it you press enter blindly or something. On Mathematica I got a white window with a cursor. I pasted the registration key into nothing - and it works. Mathematica itself will exit after opening :/ Some programs aren't configurable 'cause of this problem, iTunes is one of it.
A big problem: I can't install StuffIt. Neither the full version nor the Expander. That's very bad 'cause I have a lot of software in stuffit archives.

Does anyone how to handle the 'white window' problem and if there's a packer which is capable of decrunching stuffit archives? I found nothing yet. Would be great if somone could help me.

I'm now downloading another version of 10.4.6, 'Mac Os X Tiger 10.4.6 x86-Hotiso', the other version didn't work on my system, maybe this one does. Here are some maybe needful hints from me:

I noticed a major browsing speedup as I switched Safari to rosetta mode. Look in 'Information' and there's a button to switch the mode. But Safari isn't compatible to all sites I often use.
Who doesn't want to have the windows drives on your desktop, add in Windows a point before the name, f.e. '.Windows XP'. To hide files, folders or drives under UNIX there are you have some different methods, the easiest to set a point as first character. The drives are still available in the finder.
If you had drives in the system which aren't existing anymore you'll still find their names in the volumes drawer. Delete them and you will get a slight speed up while booting. Existing drives aren't deleteable, of course.
If somebody doesn't know, the easiest data exchange between Windows and MacOS use a small FAT32 partition. Notice: Windows XP will only format paritions smaller than 32 GB in FAT32 mode, if they're bigger it depends on using NTFS. But this is an XP limitation, the partitions could be bigger. I made the experience that partitions only work correctly with MacOS if they're primary, logical partitions have some limitations. There's a maximum of 4 primary partitions, I have three on my 300GB HD, 155 for system and programs, 103 for data and storage and a 20 GB FAT32 partition for data exchange.

That's all for it now, GreetinX from the Other Side.

I had this "white window" problem too after installing my Radeon 9800 XT. It happens only with Java-Apps to me, other Apps like iTunes work well, even Pages or Keynotes run fine.

I solved the problem by installing Maxxuss's Graphics Speed-patch (it uses a patched CoreGraphics.kext) but with this patch, PPC Apps show some Graphic-Errors. Funny thing: After removing this patch, everything works fine. No "white windows"!

I would try to remove all ATI-Kexts and force the system to boot into VESA-Mode. Then shutdown the system, copy all KEXTs back and reboot. Maybe this solves your problem?

After all, I gave up experimenting and bought a real Mac because I didn't want to go back to Windows.