THEHAWKs
Oct 14 2008, 05:55 AM
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Well, maybe -- we're not calling it official until Steve pulls the cloth off himself tomorrow morning . Still, there's no denying the similarities between this image and all those other case leaks we've seen, and the list of specs we've been given matches up as well -- that "metal and glass" enclosure now houses an NVIDIA GPU, but no FireWire 400, and video-out is apparently through a connector "more compact" than MicroDVI. We'll find out soon enough -- oh, and just to amp up expectations, Boy Genius says he's confirmed the existence of an $899 part number in Apple's retail systems. Counting down...
Update: Our source just hit us with another pic, this time from the side -- it's after the break. We're also told that there's not one, but two NVIDIA GPUs inside -- we're guessing an integrated / discrete setup like in the VAIO Z, but we'll find out for sure tomorrow.
Update 2: Our source just hit us again to say that it's two full-on NVIDIA GPUs -- sounds like a hybrid SLI setup to us, which is pretty wild. Wilder still, they say the MacBook and 17-inch MacBook Pro aren't getting refreshed tomorrow, which we find hard to believe, but we'll see when we see.
So Sexy I'm impressed
Pic Taken with iPhone
Source :
Engadget
realityiswhere
Oct 14 2008, 06:16 AM
WANT.
DO WANT.
Hopefully they'll come with an updated set of video drivers
J o e l
Oct 14 2008, 06:18 AM
looks damn nice
dillon31292
Oct 14 2008, 06:46 AM
It's beautiful for sure, but I hope they provide an alternative version without the glass.
Glass + light = glare = hell. >:
kiwi89
Oct 14 2008, 08:07 AM
wow, that looks really nice.
aprodigy
Oct 14 2008, 08:11 AM
i agree... these glossy displays (sorry) just suck...
dillon31292
Oct 14 2008, 08:15 AM
QUOTE(aprodigy @ Oct 14 2008, 04:11 AM)
i agree... these glossy displays (sorry) just suck...
But then again can't the glass on the iMacs be removed via magnets? Hopefully that is the case in this scenario as well.
ale§
Oct 14 2008, 12:07 PM
Hybrid SLI on Mac = SLI on hack? It would be amazing.
SticMAC™
Oct 14 2008, 12:10 PM
That screen looks so HP DESKTOP MONITOR!!!
SticMAN
greyMD
Oct 14 2008, 01:11 PM
QUOTE
existence of an $899 part number in Apple's retail systems
this sounds tasty
lastowl
Oct 14 2008, 01:48 PM
i would sell body parts for this
and usually about £1100 for top version in uk (about $1800)
it's cheaper in the uk to travel round the world to anywhere else buy one and come straight home than to buy it here
flibblesan
Oct 14 2008, 01:59 PM
I've heard good rumors that the current Macbook will be reduced to £399 in the UK.
Running With Scissors
Oct 14 2008, 02:11 PM
QUOTE(flibblesan @ Oct 14 2008, 02:59 PM)
I've heard good rumors that the current Macbook will be reduced to £399 in the UK.
Not the UK mate we like paying more for stuff.
pritthish
Oct 14 2008, 02:17 PM
nevertheless, £399 would be really great for poor lads like myself
Boombeng
Oct 14 2008, 03:38 PM
Do you know if we'll be able to install Ideneb on it ?
kenmitch
Oct 14 2008, 03:49 PM
www.macmall.com has what they call the new macbooks and pros available already? Not sure about the specs tho....Doesn't look like anything changed much. Possibly specs are not updated as of yet to reflect internal changes in the design.
Anybody taken a look yet?
Strange even Apple site shows the new aluminum macbook pros with the specs....Not much of a change from current lineup....Maybe holding spec update
back?
vbetts
Oct 14 2008, 04:13 PM
SLI in mac finally?
But for such a thin laptop, it looks great! Not just one, but two gpus. And $899!?!?!?!?!?! I just may get a Macbook if they come at that price.
macgirl
Oct 14 2008, 04:17 PM
QUOTE(aprodigy @ Oct 14 2008, 03:11 AM)
i agree... these glossy displays (sorry) just suck...
Not agree, I have both, anti-glare and glossy screens, glossy are clearer and fine.
On the other hand I put on my iPhone an anti-glare shield but not because reflections, finger prints and smudges are ugly
but the image is better without the anti-glare shield.
Blue-K
Oct 14 2008, 04:20 PM
Let's wait...but looks realy nice (like always from Apple), but the Price will be horrible (also like always from Apple)...
Descalzo
Oct 14 2008, 04:47 PM
QUOTE(dillon31292 @ Oct 14 2008, 12:46 AM)
It's beautiful for sure, but I hope they provide an alternative version without the glass.
Glass + light = glare = hell. >:
I agree, but only if I'm outside. My Dell has the glossy, and it's gorgeous indoors. My Mac is much better for outdoors or highly-lit places.
Also, why is this not on the front page?
Retell
Oct 14 2008, 06:15 PM
VERY disappointing!
Highest clock speed 2.53ghz?!
No Blu-ray!
No HDMI!
Not built for Snow Leopard specs!
Glass screen!
No SLI!
No higher res iSight!
Give me a copy of 10.5.6 with my 9600m and intel 5300 wifi drivers and I will buy a Mac next year.
flibblesan
Oct 14 2008, 06:27 PM
Bloody hell. They pushed the original white Macbook to £719.. How odd because it's original retail price was £699 so Apple have INCREASED the price by £20...
Envying
Oct 14 2008, 06:51 PM
The only thing I am interested is whether they are using NV chipset for new MB or MBP, if so, then it should have an NV SATA controller driver from Apple.
l3bed
Oct 14 2008, 07:12 PM
Envying
Oct 14 2008, 07:27 PM
Got this from Nvidia Website. Looks like it's true, there must be an new Nvidia SATA controller comes with Nvidia Chipset in this case...
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Hybrid SLI is supported only on NVIDIA motherboard GPU chipsets. The shared GPU architecture between dGPU and mGPU allows for a much smoother user experience, as well as the performance benefit of SLI scaling.
However, a feature called Dynamic Hybrid Graphics which is the ability to transition dynamically between an Intel notebook chipset and an NVIDIA discrete GPU is supported.
vbetts
Oct 14 2008, 07:37 PM
QUOTE(Retell @ Oct 14 2008, 06:15 PM)
VERY disappointing!
Highest clock speed 2.53ghz?!
No Blu-ray!
No HDMI!
Not built for Snow Leopard specs!
Glass screen!
No SLI!
No higher res iSight!
Give me a copy of 10.5.6 with my 9600m and intel 5300 wifi drivers and I will buy a Mac next year.
1. 2.53 ghz yes, but then look at the core, look at the fsb, look at cache, and then the size of it. And plus, these aren't desktop cpus. You act like 2.53 ghz per core is slow.
2.What program fully uses bluray on either Mac or windows anyways?! Bluray hasn't taken off yet where it can be easily emplimented like DVD. Plus,
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/steve-j...-a-bag-of-hurt/3.It's a notebook. Not that big of a chance for it. It has display port still, which can have a higher resolution than HDMI if ever needed.
4.Yeah, because Snow leopard will really have this high of requirements.
5.Don't like glossy screen either.
6.Hybrid SLI. Scales the same as SLI.
7.Come on now, are you honestly going to need a super high resolution for a notebook webcam?!
8.10.5.5 was just released, durr
You're wanting stuff that would easily suit a desktop a lot more.
johnniecarcinogen
Oct 14 2008, 07:44 PM
Direct from Apple adds sales tax now even if you aren't in the same state. Macmall.com doesn't charge sales tax.
Chris Mills
Oct 14 2008, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(flibblesan @ Oct 14 2008, 07:27 PM)
Bloody hell. They pushed the original white Macbook to £719.. How odd because it's original retail price was £699 so Apple have INCREASED the price by £20...
Yeah that kinda pissed me off too!
vbetts
Oct 14 2008, 07:48 PM
Plus, even the Macbooks atleast have the 9400m chip in it! I can easily settle with that!
Here's a big one for me.
ddr3 memory.
flibblesan
Oct 14 2008, 08:00 PM
I'd love a new Macbook. Apparently the £399 I was told is the price that Apple reseller KRCS will be selling the low-end Macbooks for. Makes sense to get rid of them quick.
QUOTE(Envying @ Oct 14 2008, 08:27 PM)
Got this from Nvidia Website. Looks like it's true, there must be an new Nvidia SATA controller comes with Nvidia Chipset in this case...
The new Macbook, Macbook Pro and Macbook Air are all Nvidia chipsets for north and southbridge, which will mean Nvidia SATA controller (good news for Nforce motherboard owners I should think). It's great news. HybridSLI is really really cool.
Descalzo
Oct 14 2008, 09:38 PM
I just looked into the specs, and there's some stuff I don't like, and I couldn't get one of these even if I could afford it. I need my FireWire 400. I depend on that.
Also, I noticed the refurbished MBP prices are going way down.
I like the new MacBook has real graphics, and is a lot like a MacBook Pro Lite. I'd consider one of those, if I were in the market.
macgirl
Oct 14 2008, 09:56 PM
QUOTE(Retell @ Oct 14 2008, 01:15 PM)
VERY disappointing!
Highest clock speed 2.53ghz?!
No Blu-ray!
No HDMI!
Not built for Snow Leopard specs!
Glass screen!
No SLI!
No higher res iSight!
Give me a copy of 10.5.6 with my 9600m and intel 5300 wifi drivers and I will buy a Mac next year.
Where did you get the highest clock speed is 2.53, it is 2.8
I got HDMI on my laptop, but I wish it has a DVI instead, it is easier to get DVI to HDMI than HDMI to DVI adaptors.
Glass screen is gorgeous.
But yes it is a shame no BluRay yet.
coolied
Oct 15 2008, 12:45 AM
I have one HUGE question, now that i've been thinking about it. What is it with Apple and these freakin' proprietary DVI connections? Is there any reason they can't just stick an HDMI port or 2 on the thing? HDMI->DVI converters are a dime a dozen these days, seems this el-weirdo DVI connector is simply a ploy to sell accessories. Macbooks are expensive enough, without nickle and diming folks for cables. And HDMI connectors are positively compact.
THEHAWKs
Oct 15 2008, 01:19 AM
QUOTE(coolied @ Oct 14 2008, 08:45 PM)
I have one HUGE question, now that i've been thinking about it. What is it with Apple and these freakin' proprietary DVI connections? Is there any reason they can't just stick an HDMI port or 2 on the thing? HDMI->DVI converters are a dime a dozen these days, seems this el-weirdo DVI connector is simply a ploy to sell accessories. Macbooks are expensive enough, without nickle and diming folks for cables. And HDMI connectors are positively compact.
Thats why you can always go with 3rd party accessories
The only thing i'm not happy with is the price but the macbook is a very good pick the only down side is the screen size.
JaE-V
Oct 15 2008, 01:49 AM
QUOTE(THEHAWKs @ Oct 14 2008, 08:19 PM)
Thats why you can always go with 3rd party accessories
The only thing i'm not happy with is the price but the macbook is a very good pick the only down side is the screen size.
whats your geekbench score with that system in your sig? like a million or something? lol
applehacker
Oct 15 2008, 02:07 AM
blech.............. i dont like it. Going with the powerbook titanium look.......................
aluminum was much better. I will pass on this one. And missing so many feature! No bd or hdmi? cmon people.....................
inbox86
Oct 15 2008, 02:24 AM
No intel Montevino?
Ohhh i can't believe!!!Why why why???
And no blu-ray....
i think upgraded only Design.
My VAIO is better than new nForce based Macbooks!
m16
Oct 15 2008, 02:27 AM
QUOTE(macgirl @ Oct 14 2008, 09:56 PM)
Where did you get the highest clock speed is 2.53, it is 2.8
I got HDMI on my laptop, but I wish it has a DVI instead, it is easier to get DVI to HDMI than HDMI to DVI adaptors.
Glass screen is gorgeous.
But yes it is a shame no BluRay yet.
But its a lot easier to get sound with HDMI as opposed to DVI and a separate sound cable...
SpeedfreaK
Oct 15 2008, 11:46 AM
the laptops do have montevino platform parts
tomazzzi
Oct 15 2008, 12:03 PM
I find the new macbook line very interesting
The video controler was the negative point of the previous macbook !
They made the right choice !
solaar
Oct 16 2008, 02:14 PM
New graphics, bus speed and look aside (very impressive regardless), but here's a bitter one for all musicians (and perhaps videographers as well).
It's old news that the nicely compact 13 inch Macbook is now totally deprived of firewire. Pointing over to the MBP is however not the ultimate wisdom either. The MBP sports only a 1394b (FW800) port. FW 800 has been reported being flaky at times. The guys over at RME made some pretty extensive testing with different FW audio interfaces on 800 ports and stumbled across intermittent problems like 'irregular bus resets' which result in audio errors. These problem also occur on FW800 interfaces, not only on FW400.
I reckon this is a quite disappointing trade-off in light of the fact that many musicians were always loyal to Macs. FW400 is rock solid for audio. USB is no serious alternative.
Just thought I give the musicos in the house a little heads up.
(btw the smart arse in the other thread stating that pro musicians exclusively use MBP - err... you don't get out much, do you?)
macgirl
Oct 16 2008, 03:40 PM
QUOTE(solaar @ Oct 16 2008, 09:14 AM)
It's old news that the nicely compact 13 inch Macbook is now totally deprived of firewire. Pointing over to the MBP is however not the ultimate wisdom either. The MBP sports only a 1394b (FW800) port. FW 800 has been reported being flaky at times. The guys over at RME made some pretty extensive testing with different FW audio interfaces on 800 ports and stumbled across intermittent problems like 'irregular bus resets' which result in audio errors. These problem also occur on FW800 interfaces, not only on FW400.
If you saw the keynote Steve mention that the FW800 could handle FW400 with a special cable.
Maxintosh
Oct 16 2008, 04:20 PM
QUOTE(dillon31292 @ Oct 13 2008, 11:46 PM)
Glass + light = glare = hell.
Yeah I don't know what Apple's problem is. They seem to like things with lots of glare.
They ruined the iMac by adding lots of glare on it too
QUOTE
What is it with Apple and these freakin' proprietary DVI connections?
Actually it works better than anything else out there.
solaar
Oct 16 2008, 06:28 PM
QUOTE(macgirl @ Oct 16 2008, 03:40 PM)
If you saw the keynote Steve mention that the FW800 could handle FW400 with a special cable.
Yes, theoretically. The physical connection is no big deal.
The issue is apparently with the FW800 protocol itself (or data stream or whatever this is called, I'm not a tech head) which reportedly has intermittent problems with audio FW400 interfaces. As I mentioned, I do trust the stress tests RME have done. They are highly respected in the audio world.
Just one dropout that sneaks in on a crucial take can ruin a whole recording session when you're on the road somewhere and can't get the performers back easily for new session. Dropouts and audio clicks can in fact sometimes slip through in the heat of a session and there's not always enough time to solo every single track to check if it's clean - also as a matter of respect for the performers.
In the last 2 years with our lil' Macbook and portable FW400 interfaces and countless sessions, the number of audio problems we had is = none.
Why Apple changed a winning team is beyond me. At least they could have implemented a FW400 as a second port.
braveskunk
Oct 16 2008, 10:31 PM
just saw the whole keynote. looks impressive:) have anybody noticed that it's on nvidia chipset(possibly nforce). i think many of nforce users will have better life with their hacks now, when apple release the new drivers...
SpeedfreaK
Oct 17 2008, 11:00 AM
what i dont understand is why lots of people hate the glossy screen and the black borders around it. i do like it very much (i have a alu 24" imac, so i know how it is) and i don't have glare and i only hear people saying "man what is that computer freaking nice!". the new mb and mbp are {censored} sweet and the colors of a glossy screen are waaaaay beter than those of the non glossy variant!
but i do hate it that the new mb's don't have firewire! i can't copy files through firewire with target disk mode!!!!
dillon31292
Oct 17 2008, 01:30 PM
QUOTE(inbox86 @ Oct 14 2008, 10:24 PM)
No intel Montevino?
Ohhh i can't believe!!!Why why why???
And no blu-ray....
i think upgraded only Design.
My VAIO is better than new nForce based Macbooks!
Why do you NEED blu-ray in a notebook? I can see having a blu-ray player for your television, or for a PC with a large display, because DVD and HD DVD would lose quality, but on something with a relatively small display HD DVD is more than good enough.
macgirl
Oct 17 2008, 04:15 PM
QUOTE(dillon31292 @ Oct 17 2008, 08:30 AM)
Why do you NEED blu-ray in a notebook? I can see having a blu-ray player for your television, or for a PC with a large display, because DVD and HD DVD would lose quality, but on something with a relatively small display HD DVD is more than good enough.
That's exactly I aks a friend that said the same thing about no Blu-Ray in ne MacBooks, an his answer was very good, for Backup Capacity. But also you can fit a HDTV to your Blu-Ray capable notebook and enjoy HD films.
splits
Oct 17 2008, 04:44 PM
And for 2 grand US starting price, it should have blu ray.
As macgirl said, backup capacity. Alot of us want to be able to archive using blu ray from my PC and at least be able to read from a mbp.
THEHAWKs
Oct 17 2008, 07:48 PM
QUOTE(splits @ Oct 17 2008, 12:44 PM)
And for 2 grand US starting price, it should have blu ray.
As macgirl said, backup capacity. Alot of us want to be able to archive using blu ray from my PC and at least be able to read from a mbp.
yes 2,000 $US it should Come With a Blu-ray Drive
for 2,400 $US is should of had a Blu-ray Read and Write Drive for the same Price you could get a
Intel® Core 2™ Duo Processor P9500 (2.53GHZ)
4 GB DDR3 (DDR3-1066, 2 GBx2)
320 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [5400 rpm]
NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS and Intel GMA 4500MHD & HDMI Out
Blu-ray Disc™ Read and Write Drive
LED backlight LCD 15"WUXGA with integrated video camera
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