This makes me want to move to Amsterdam with their coffee shops, redlight district and now 1Gbps internet, it's now my dream city to live.

Amsterdam Tests Residential 1Gbps Fiber

gb fiber rocks for sure but they are not really the first, are they? thougth the asians (taiwan maybe, im not sure) have done this before


you have never been there right?

on my first adam visit i arrived about 5:30am by train, first thing i saw was a man taking a piss in the middel of train station building with a whyskey bottle in his hand.


second thing was a men persuing an other, it seems he got his purse stolen by him



walking trogh the city you wont find a single bush without at least one empty handbag or backpack in it. heroin and crack addicts everywhere begging for money and cigarrets.



it's fun for a few days, but living in a place like this isn't what i want

Just a note that I've spent quite a bit of time in Amsterdam, and although it can be abrasive and nasty in the center, particularly in tourist season, there are far worse cities in Europe, with higher crime rates & worse drug problems. The central station is often the worst part of any city, as newly-arrived strangers/foreigners often sleepy & with no idea of where they are, make easy targets.

As for Gbit fibre, that has to be tempting.. I can get 100mbit here where I am, but it's still too expensive for me to contemplate. A quick scan of the story linked above didn't reveal any prices....

I lived there for 4 years; is a quite peacefull place. You make it sound like a lost city!
I wonder what you would say about places like Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires....

Exactly. I lived there for almost 5 years and I loved it. It was a long time ago, however.
Also, Amsterdam isn't just the city center, it is a huge place, and some areas are really nice. I lived in Amsterdam-North.

For those who understand Dutch (but everybody can watch the picture), this is where I lived:

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilverberg_(Amsterdam)

The building was one of the ugliest in the area, but the area itself was beautiful, minutes walking from the (then) largest shopping centre in the Netherlands (Boven 't IJ)

went there last year..... it's a theme park for adults!

utterly mad place....

I just got bored in florida! I might moving too!

I live 20 min from amsterdam, but no 1 Gbps here

You find what you are looking for.
I suppose you weren't looking for places like the Rijksmuseum, The Van Gogh Museum, The Concertgebouw or similar

the languish Sounds wierd but i think we have 1gbps here in sweden

This is not uncommon in any inner city or big town.

Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with that. Welcome to any city, seriously, especially in the tourist area where these people know that people coming in are rich.

I found Brighton city center or Antwerp city center to be much worse than Amsterdam.

lool


You should have stay a little more in this town to see how it really is ...

Amsterdam is a great town to live in.

Absolutely.Lively, peacefulcity , very good people/guys for having laugh and discovering a small city with a big love for arts.
Sometime I find more criminal my city Florence , Italy.
Sure.

Spent a lot of summers there when I was at uni ; what a kind of memory..I miss it

A big Ciao to all of Amstel People

I have never been to Amsterdam but hope to someday because my grandfather was born there.

Crime is in every city in the world some worse then others, hell I've been in parts of NY that even warring full body armor and carrying an AK-47 I would still not feel safe.

Even in my own city we have bad areas of the city. For a time I lived a few doors down from a housing complex that had cops coming and going so much that we joked saying they should setup a police station there.

Back to topic:

It's too bad that North America is so far behind in data speeds with the majority of users still using connections of 5Mbps or less. Even with Verizon's FiOS fiber connection it pails in comparison to what is happening over seas, it tops out at only 50Mbps. If you want a 100Mbps connection or better you have to be Bill Gates to afford it. The problem here is corporate greed, they make billions in net profits but spend very little into upgrading their networks. If they don't start updating the networks North America will become the 3rd world of the internet.

It's good to read they're already experimenting with it in Amsterdam. I live in Eindhoven, more to the south, and while I'm currently pretty satisfied with my 20mbps ADSL2+ connection, in a few months I'll be connected to a full-duplex 100mbps FUP fiber connection for about 40 euros a month.

When the 100mbps connections are fully rolled out, it probably won't be much trouble to upgrade it to 1gbps in the future. But I think 100mbps will be more than enough for the upcoming years.

Why Not Utrecht, its a much better city

Right! And what about Nijmegen? Or Breda? Or Den Bosch?

If your not in the Randstat who cares about you ;P

Congratulations! You managed to find a brand new discrimination, something the Dutch are quite good at

Better in discriminating then people do in other countries? Just wondering...I dunno but thats not good then.
We don't have a very good name already when it comes to drugs and porn (yeah, for some it sounds like heaven).
While Holland is so beautiful country. I admit it's not getting better last 10 years.

My personal experience is not very positive. I was appalled how badly black people were discriminated against (I didn't find the same level of discrimination in England). Discrimination of white, non-Dutch Europeans was pretty bad too (please notice that I look like many Dutch people and that I could speak Dutch fluently, if anything with a southern accent).

It's just Dutch Humor ;P Holland is Small but VERY Diverse. The Randstat area is The Loop of Amsterdam, to Utrecht, to Rotterdam, and back to Den Haag. In this area people are mostly VERY tolerant and speak fluent English. Most Dutch people live in this area. To the north you have the Frieslanders, who need to learn to speak Dutch (this is a joke) ;P Also we have the Dutch people who live on the German Border, who have taken on a lot of the German Language and Culture. Don't worry though they will still argue of the last penny on a bill ;P

Mostly when it comes to discrimination in Holland it's against Moroccans and Turks. The Muslim population. There is a lot of bad blood involved in that and it's a powder keg that has yet to FULLY explode. Outside that you have the people of Suriname which Dutch people see as thieves and crooks. Though they often get a fairer shake of it then the Muslims do.

Most of Holland is very wonderful, and pretty. Filled with great people who have much pride in what they have built. Sometimes the dutch CAN be a little cheap ;P and thick headed. Overall they are a great people *except the pensioners who have nothing better to do then COMPLAIN about everything YOU do* ;P

Having spent 5 years of my life in Amsterdam, I know about the Randstat




I agree, generally speaking. I just found that the much celebrated "Dutch tolerance" wasn't entirely true.

Dundee in Scotland is getting residential 100mb broadband within the next year or so. The UK's second "Fibe City" is gonna be Dundee. That's where i'm moving *hopefully*

1gb broadband is available everywhere but not publicly, only for businesses and such. 100mb broadband will do me for now, but I don't see why they don't just roll out the best fibre available, instead of bumping up the speed every few years or so. Laying down more cable and spending more money

The most available in Italy, in a few, selected places, is 20mb. Else it is 7 or 8mb.

But there are still many places which have no broadband at all.

sucks to live in italy i guess

It's like that in the UK too, except everywhere has broadband. We get 1-8meg broadband everywhere, through the phonelines. And places that are able to get cable tv can get 20meg. But now the UK is going Fibre meaning we'll get 100meg -1gb broadband next. It'll be the same for italy. Expect it to happen worldwide in the next 2-5 years.

It does indeed. and that isn't even one of the most important reasons.

I've allready started to pack my bags. Amsterdam, here I come! Please save a room for me in the area covered by Netcity! Weed + gigabit, that's the combination!

Imagine downloading tens of thousands of gigabytes of full hd porn.

Question one: where can I buy an exabyte hdd?

Question two: how many exabytes does the whole net have? I might find it simplier to download the net and take it with me in my trips.

soon i have internet from the dutch company called upc.
ill have 120 mb down and 10 up trough cable. thats fast enough for me:)
proud 2 be dutch here:)

1 megabyte per second upload:)
and a whooping 15 megabyte per second download!

I thought UPC is from USA. Here upc provides just a lousy 20 mbs.

Amsterdam not only has one of the busiest global Internet exchanges, but consumers also see some fantastic speeds in a city that increasingly treats broadband like a utility. Cable operators have been testing 120Mbps pre-certification DOCSIS 3.0 speeds, the city was the first in Europe to see Wireless WiMax, and they're also deploying municipal fiber thanks to private investment funds and an organization named CityNet. Cooperatively with Netherlands carriers GNA, BBned, and InterNLnet, the outfit has just concluded a 3-day test of 1Gbps connectivity for residential consumers over their network.

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Amsterdam has always been one of the most civilized cities in the world. That regardless of what I said in my previous posts

Hmm i have 20mbit, could have more 50-100mbit for more money. Also North America has the fastest average speed in the world... http://www.speedtest.net/global.php

Gotta love when people post lies/opinions as facts. Well i know its just misinformation they have gotten but still the ignorant feeding the ignorant.

You just proved what I was saying why should I be paying $40 for 5Mbps when someone over seas is paying the same for a 100Mbps. You want more speed here you pay the corporate greed machine.



WoW! North America has a huge whopping lead of 100K over Europe. That lead will be gone in no time when you look at internet growth rates. From 2000 to 2007 North America only seen 119.4% growth while the rest of the world seen a growth rate of 305.3%



I never stated what I was saying was fact it was simply an observation of the news story's I have read. When you read about some new high speed network being installed or tested it ain't being tried in North America.

You call me ignorant when you base your facts on Speedtest.net try visiting a few tech news sites or business sites.

sick...
but i want it in the uk

only there for 3 days, but the Van Gogh Museum was awesome