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Alessandro17
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7593162.stm


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Pound problems make the headlines

Several papers lead on the fortunes of the pound, and of the chancellor.

The Times says business leaders have accused Alistair Darling of talking Britain into a recession as the pound fell to a record low.

It says sterling is now the worst performing of 10 leading currencies this year.

"Pound sinks to rock bottom" is the headline in the Daily Express, while the Daily Mail has the damning "Thanks very much, Darling".


I remember once I was at a travel agency in Brighton. In order to travel by car in Europe I had to buy 6 different currencies, and thus pay 6 different commissions.
I complained about that with the cashier and I said: "luckily soon we'll have the Euro in Europe, thus I'll have to pay only one commission."
She replied very bitter: "The Euro is going to be a weak currency anyway"
Who was right, madam? The Euro is now one of the strongest currencies in the World.

Isn't it time for Britain to join the Euro?
TheBogieMan
QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Sep 2 2008, 08:27 PM) *
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7593162.stm
Isn't it time for Britain to join the Euro?


Just do what I did....move from England to Ireland biggrin.gif
Running With Scissors
Unless the UK is forced to join I can not see any future government adopt the Euro in the forcible future. It will just be too much of a vote killer for our gutless politicians.

Alessandro17
QUOTE(Running With Scissors @ Sep 2 2008, 08:10 PM) *
Unless the UK is forced to join I can not see any future government adopt the Euro in the forcible future. It will just be too much of a vote killer for our gutless politicians.


It is quite simple, actually. They should do it at the beginning of a legislation.
By the following general election people will have forgotten it and possibly realized that joining the Euro was actually good for Britain.
Mebster
The UK goverment tends to often see things differently from the rest of Europe (Iraq for example) and I think the Pound Euro differention is a reminder of that which I don't think is going to go away anytime soon. Not until the UK goverment gets along better with it's European neighbours.

Also remember a weaker Pound isn't necessarily bad all round. It's better for exports, isn't it, which I think can help economic growth in this tough time.

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Who was right, madam? The Euro is now one of the strongest currencies in the World.

1.00 GBP = 1.22896 EUR (from xe.com from time of posting)

Not over taken it just yet tongue.gif
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Mebster @ Sep 3 2008, 03:19 AM) *
Also remember a weaker Pound isn't necessarily bad all round. It's better for exports, isn't it, which I think can help economic growth in this tough time.


Yes, that is true, but there must be a healthy balance between too weak and too strong. If a currency is too weak, all imports will be terribly expensive and the population will suffer.
As the BBC says, a very low currency means recession:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7591563.stm

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Recession fears push pound down

The pound has hit a record low against the euro and a two-year low against the dollar amid fresh fears about the UK sliding into recession.


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1.00 GBP = 1.22896 EUR (from xe.com from time of posting)

Not over taken it just yet tongue.gif


Yes, but the Pound is at a record low against the Euro anyway. See above.
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Sep 3 2008, 06:08 AM) *
Yes, but the Pound is at a record low against the Euro anyway. See above.


Not worth jumping ship over, however wink.gif
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Paranoid Marvin @ Sep 3 2008, 03:03 PM) *
Not worth jumping ship over, however wink.gif


But that is not the only point, PM.
Suffice to say that the Euro has given Italy a stable economy we didn't dream of when we had the Lira (the previous currency).
The good thing about the Euro is that it is ruled by economists, not politicians.
lord_muad_dib
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Suffice to say that the Euro has given Italy a stable economy we didn't dream of when we had the Lira


[OT]excuse me?!?!? where do you live man?
on te contrary, people got poor due the prices speculation given by a bad manage of the switch between the two, all's gone out of control[/OT]

i doubt britain with drop pounds anytime soon
Alessandro17
QUOTE(lord_muad_dib @ Sep 3 2008, 04:24 PM) *
[OT]excuse me?!?!? where do you live man?
on te contrary, people got poor due the prices speculation given by a bad manage of the switch between the two, all's gone out of control[/OT]


Yes Lord, but that has absolutely nothing to do with a healthy economy. That is because 50% of Italians are thieves and robbers (the same who vote for Berlusconi who was in charge when the Euro was introduced and did absolutely nothing to keep prices under control).
However the market laws will adjust everything in the end: people don't have money and don't buy. Prices have to go down and wages up.

I am already beginning to see some incredibly low prices, lower even than at the time of the Lira.
Detosx
QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Sep 2 2008, 08:27 PM) *
Isn't it time for Britain to join the Euro?
The penguin in the velvet smoking jacket with the pipe speaks the truth!
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Detosx @ Sep 3 2008, 08:55 PM) *
The penguin in the velvet smoking jacket with the pipe speaks the truth!


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Running With Scissors
To be honest I don't really care so long as I can buy as much beer as I do now with pounds.
m16
I'm really suprised Sweeden and Denmark still use their own currencies... so annoying...
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Running With Scissors @ Sep 3 2008, 10:57 PM) *
To be honest I don't really care so long as I can buy as much beer as I do now with pounds.


Do you buy British beer or foreign? Foreign is bound to be more expensive, I am afraid.
Paranoid Marvin
Perhaps switching to the Euro will be beneficial in the future, but as I see it, now is not the time to switch
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Paranoid Marvin @ Sep 4 2008, 07:09 AM) *
Perhaps switching to the Euro will be beneficial in the future, but as I see it, now is not the time to switch


Right, probably when everybody else has already switched smile.gif
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Sep 4 2008, 08:56 AM) *
Right, probably when everybody else has already switched smile.gif


Haha, yeah rolleyes.gif

What I really meant was the state of the global economy - now is not the time to change currencies!
Mebster
QUOTE(Paranoid Marvin @ Sep 4 2008, 07:23 PM) *
Haha, yeah rolleyes.gif

What I really meant was the state of the global economy - now is not the time to change currencies!

I tend to agree. With the UK economy heading towards a recession and inflation double what it should be, I think this is not the right time to decide to take the queen's face off all our notes.
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Mebster @ Sep 4 2008, 11:51 PM) *
I tend to agree. With the UK economy heading towards a recession and inflation double what it should be, I think this is not the right time to decide to take the queen's face off all our notes.


Well, probably right now Britain wouldn't even meet the criteria for joining.
Numberzz
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British friends, time to join the Euro?

QUOTE(Alessandro17 @ Sep 5 2008, 02:43 AM) *
Well, probably right now Britain wouldn't even meet the criteria for joining.


Harsh words for the person that actually started the topic. tongue.gif
Alessandro17
QUOTE(Numberzz @ Sep 5 2008, 01:30 PM) *
Harsh words for the person that actually started the topic. tongue.gif


Not really. The Euro joining criteria are not one man's opinion, they are facts which can (and indeed do) get measured.
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