I just checked 5 mins ago on the EFIX website, and it's been updated saying they are now shipping v.1 to countries that don't yet have resellers! (USA,UK,Europe,Australia) etc...!

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EFiX™ V1 in stock now.
To order EFiX™ V1 please use our contact form and submit the following:

EFiX™ Type: V1 <li>Your Motherboard (and any HCL information per our HCL) <li>Desired Payment way: PayPal, Bank Transfer, Western Union <li>Shipping address: A full address is necessary for shipping cost calculation

Note:
<li>We only sell EFiX™ V1 to consumers in countries which do not have resellers.
To see the entire Resellers list please check our "Where To Buy" page in Products menu. <li>Shipping will commence only upon our reception of payment.
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http://www.efi-x.com/index.php?language=english

Hmmm...

Is anyone else still sceptical about this?

What's the point now? CDBoot has almost everything you got from EFIX, and is fully customizable.

the truth is, we need to focus.....
this magic module is NOT going to make your sound work!
this magic module is NOT going to make your Graphics Card work!
this magic module is NOT going to install your PS/2 Mouse and Keyboard kexts for you!
this magic module is NOT going to set the refresh rate on your GMAX3100!
this magic module is NOT going to make your PC into an Apple....
it is ONLY going to provide you the facility to boot like an apple, hence being able to boot from the Retail DVD(which is what Boot 123 id offering you at the moment)

They have not bothered to test their module on standard systems like Dell or HP as they have not had the time yet!?

€80.00 my ass, I'd say!


SticMAN

LOL!! I agree, I will not trust these assholes and who will be the first idiot in spend $120 dollars in something that anyone can do it for FREE!!!!

What about the hardware of the EFiX: is this thing more than a USB key ? Is there an EFI chip in it ?

The EFI though is only doing as promised. Boot Os X up on a PC. Nothing more.>_>

Reading through the lines of some of the on-going anouncements, more time was spent "securing" the USB device so that others could not make a copy of it, than was spent in developing the actual functional code held within the USB device (which we have essentially had on the generic.ISO CD for quite some time now).

IOW, the developeers of EFiX are now in the same position as other developers of intellectual property: more money goes into defending their IP "rights" than goes into developing and enhancing the IP itself.

Welcome to the real world!



Yes, and for that we have generic.ISO.

I didn't say there wasn't an alternative.

But, I found a big catch to EFIX! The support list!
http://www.efi-x.com/index.php?option=com_...anguage=english

Which is pretty shitty actually. Mobo, that's a not problem. Not a small support list for mobos, but not a big list either, but things like Video cards...Only 2 supported ATI cards? Really? Sure, the updates from apple are nice, but if I can't use my x1800 or a 9800gtx, not worth then imo.

They're stupid noob. As I considered them as Open Tech and Psysh*t, who may used the OSx86 scene to make money and unfortunately, they will be sued and closed soon I hope (so).... Wow, EFiX is released and shipped everywhere. I'm better sticking in on the old school stuff and use Kaly, iAtkos or even better, boot-132n "technique". Sorry for them, but I would share my hate but in forums, you'd better keep on smiling. And well after, we're gonna laughing to those ugly face!



Hand-crafted.. by who?! The guys who stole osx86 infos... IMAO

ahh. and this thing makes sounds/video from hcl to work otb...

Well it certainly seems like it would work with my hardware (Q6600, P35. Nvidia 7300, on board sound/lan) and it works with most pro audio systems.
What's wrong with that???

It's not undermining anyone's work on this list, just enhancing it for those that don't want to go through the stress of updates etc.

Martin H

Netkas, I would bet 100$ it doesn't work out of the box. They're always a breach and something doesn't work correctly.
False argument to say it works OOB. You made a great job btw (on OSx86)

I want one precisely because I don't want to be tied to iatkos, jas, kalyway, leo4all, etc. Their website is profoundly unprofessional, I must say. The FAQ has no real information that I want to know about. Here are some questions they should answer:

1. Can disks use MBR or do they need to be GUID partitioned?
2. The product page mentions a "USB internal 10-1 connector" which I am unfamiliar with. Can the device work plugged into an external USB port or not?
3. Why the emphasis on "EMI & ESD protection"? No other USB device I am aware of seems to think those are important enough to mention on their main product pages. Is the device super-sensitive to static electricity? Sounds like a ready-made excuse for why it doesn't work if anyone reports a problem.
4. What's different about v2? "Support for several motherboards" implies v1 will only work on 1 motherboard. True?
5. Is the user forced to use the EFI-X "System Boot Selector"? I use grub and have no desire to use anything else.
6. I have to say which motherboard I have when I place my order. Does that lock me in forever to that one motherboard, or will support for others be available via downloads? They use the English word "firmware" in ambiguous ways.

BigPimpin, I don't know where you've been lately, but those releases are no longer necessary. No disrespect to the fine work of those who make them, but I stopped using hacked DVDs quite a while ago in favour of the leopard I bought at the apple store.. certainly you need half a clue to do it, but also no more than half a clue, and the hardware that's on the efi-x HCL is all perfectly capable of installing & running retail os x without it.

Agreed.

I assume you're speaking of boot-123. No thanks.

I forgot to mention Zephyroth. A quick look at the New Releases, OSx86 Installation, and Post-Installation forums shows that the rumors of those distros' death are greatly exaggerated. Running my Leopard retail DVD is exactly what I want to do but I don't fancy swapping discs every time I boot. I don't want to burn my own discs ever again to run OSX.

I'll say this: If EFiX is limited to a small number of motherboards then it will not be a successful product.

I have a new build coming up in the next few months and if I need to buy a certain motherboard then I will. One drawback I see is that I'm not fond of Gigabyte products and apparently there's only one Intel motherboard it will work on, and then you need the "EFiX™ Deluxe, EFiX™ Ultimate or any compatible external SoundCard". Does that sound bizarre to anyone else? The soundcard part, I mean. If they're going to sell in English-speaking countries they should get someone who knows how to read and write the language to proofread the English part of the website. In that respect they've done a terrible job.

Sorry to be between two discussion but I must say one thing. EFiX is so slowly developped, take in example in website, they say:

The message beyond those lines is clear: EFiX is not ready to be released. And much more in big scale (worldwide). If they said they hand-crafted, goodness better waiting for a while since something "Workable" I can say was been able to sink my old OSx86 DVD.

And take a look at the HCL, it's so miserable! Oh yeah, Gigabyte P35 is compatible. Everybody knows that!!! And everybody can go on Insanelymac and find easy guide and taking code from that.

I can't take the edge of the knife and I definetily agreed with Hagar.

I did say you need half a clue. nobody would settle for swapping discs every boot.. you drop a folder and a file onto the root of your harddrive & it's all done.

I guess there is a market for this device after all, amongst those who can accumulate 455 posts without understanding the tutorials, or even get the name of the bootloader right (it's boot-132) certainly efi-x does it in hardware, whether that is a good and reliable method remains to be seen, but the software alternative *genuinely is* an utterly viable free method here today.

For what it's worth, I carry my installer with me at all times.. it's on a triple-booting usb stick that contains absolutely everything I need to set up 10.5.4 on any vanilla capable machine. efi-x is larger & will only do 1 machine at a time, and you have to leave it plugged in. your choice.

Very funny.

That's what I aim to find out, so you'll please forgive me for not signing up for your anti-efix agenda just yet.

BTW, good job on keeping that boot-132 thread cleaned up. The board would be a much more enjoyable experience if all the moderators were as dedicated as you to keeping threads on-topic.

I can't wait to report that efix site.

lol, all efix does is run a option rom on the usb device iirc. just flash it onto a cheapo ethernet card and voila

Well said, honestly, whoever buys this, well, I don't know how to describe that kind of stupidity.

Well, stupid or not, if it is working, it will be a nice surprise ....

Exacly. If it works, then it's doing it's job.

I am trying to buy a device. Heck, I am even going to buy a new mobo if needed. If I get it, I'll let you know offcourse...
Are there more buyers here?

You are gonna waste your money. CDBoot132 does the same for free.

Really? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't they (efix) claiming you can do a Software Update (even with new kernel etc) without a problem?

(sigh) how many times do we need to go through this: you can do exactly the same with current bootloader techniques for free, the only thing you *may* be getting with efi-x is convenience, you get *nothing* in extra features, at least as far as anyone knows, and that includes updates and all the rest of it. Free is more work, but open and flexible. efi-x is easy-to-use hardware, but you need to buy one for each machine.

Until a real test or review surfaces, there is no evidence to suggest that there is any functional advantage. I guess it would be like comparing modchipped & softmodded x-box'es

Thank you for your reply, in short: you don't know if software update will work on efi-x.

By the way, you seem to be annoyed pretty fast (looking at the replies you gave in this thread). Perhaps you should filter efi-x threads, as you seem to hate it?

Software update works safely in any hackinstosh instalation as long as you use pmdisabler.kext

I use to install 10.5.0 retail dvd using cdboot-132, then once installed, I boot the hard disk from cdboot-132 and just use chamaleon installer, and smbiosenabler.kext + pmdisabler.kext (both included in cdboot-132 initrd.img by default). Then you can boot from your hd and install safely any update.

How can I hate something I've never seen? I'll happily criticise what I have seen, which is appalling marketing and publicity from day 1.
Until some product reaches unbiased and knowledgeable hands we have no way of knowing whether this is a great revolution or a total ripoff. All I'm saying is that nothing so far claimed by efi-x is any different from what you can do yourself for free with a little time & effort, and when people start talking about it in purely wishful terms, I get somewhat annoyed.. It's just technology, it's not magic. it won't wash your clothes for you or cook your dinner. What remains to be seen is how good this bit of technology is.

as far as filtering topics goes, I never filter anything on here, and I certainly wouldn't miss this little noobfest for the world.

How someone chooses to spend their money is a value and judgment call. A lot of people consider Apple's hardware to be overpriced, and that people who buy it are wasting their money. It's all relative to what your wants and needs are, how much money you have to spend, and how much time you have to invest in getting it done.

Lets say someone starts a website for customized cdboot images with the neccesary kexts inside initrd.img for specific motherboards...voilá, you have exactly the same behaviour as EFIX. In fact, I could make a cdboot132 for cybex which would make his motherboard to work in just a few minutes following the same "rules" efix guys followed: just support the most compatible hardware.

Gigabyte boards are known to have almost out of the box audio and ethernet, so just include (in addition to the ones already included in cdboot) alcinject.kext, r1000.kext and nvinject.kext, and voilá.

It wasn't so difficult, was it?

On the other hand, I've been thinking about how EFIx claims to work and that's what I believe they have done:

1.- You boot the computer from usb
2.- A boot loader (probably linux based), loads and scans your devices pci ids
3.- Then chooses the proper kexts from its driver database and uses a similar procedure to cdboot132 to force these drivers to load before anything else with the maximum priority.

Apart from that, I really doubt the graphical bootloader netkas showed on the video was a real EFI working. Probably EFI-x is using just a fake frontend to pretend that.

it's your point of view. apple it's over priced, may be, but in the next ten years you will not change your imac macmini or pro.

Buy win pc based that's cheaper, in the next ten years you will need to change you hardware two or three times and the cost will be the double.

Efix is a joke believe me.

Hey, fanboy, my 8 years old PC desktop computer is still running well.

I'm not sure that Efi-x is a joke, but it's limited and overpriced device for already very compatible motherboards.

Guys - until an efi-x will be tested, or until we will see some videos on the net, no one have the right to say anything a word.. all we do are speculations .. and, to be fear boot132 was out after efi-x was with idea so ...

I believe the information about the process cdboot132 and efi-x uses was avaible in cdboot132's author web long before a word about efi-x was heard.

From checking out this product, what the hell is the point? most people need the fixes, and kernel patches. From my experience the releases in the osx86 community can be extremely stable with the correct setup. All it takes is some research. If the EFiX product was worth it it would do more than just let you boot an os x disk. I really dont care that i cant boot my retail leopard disk. Big deal. what benefits will this give people?

Thanks for the tips, I got now these kexts, now when you said "pmdisabler.kext" are you talking about the intelcpupmdisabler.kext? that is the only one I found in the cdboot-132 image.

EFI-X vs. boot-132...

Both just let you boot the retail Leopard DVD on non-Apple computers. But, wouldn't you need to install the drivers for your hardware? How does EFI-X have an HCL? Does it have drivers built in, and if it does, can you edit them? And what about boot-132, do you add drivers to that, or after the install?

Ok. I am here to say this. Yes this community like others has worked VERY hard on making hacked disks with drivers and everything that would install PC's. This device is for those that want to use a retail disk with ease, install updates without worrying, and don't want to worry about those annoying boot loaders not working when you screw up. Thanks to ~pcwiz, the driver problem is now easily fixed, so they can install with the retail disk, use this, and his program (Along with all of it's great features, not just drivers. Thanks ~pcwiz!) and then they have a fully working, well, almost mackintosh. It has EFI, Guid, Apple Updates, easy install, and everything that a mac has. This makes it easy for the common person to install on currently supported hardware easy, and avoids them downloading a pre-patched image and not have to worry about any of those laws, because most common users won't patch their own image. This is just my take. Personally, I may pick one up to confer my theory, but I do support is as I see it helping people a lot. They can not be sued, as it only adds PC EFI, which apparently is coming standard in some experimental mobo's right now I was reading about, so I'd recommend getting one before you just throw the idea out of your head. They may work very well for those that don't like hacks, and the fun of this project, and just want a cheap mac. I personally will stick with the osx86 project as long as I can get a dang boot loader to work for my first time. lol. Maybe the tools by ~pcwiz will save my butt again!

Yep

no .kext used

So efi strings only?

Communication stopped with efi-x
I am trying to contact them, because I wanted to order a device, I got 2 mails from them and now I am ready to pay (via paypal) and they don't reply to my mails anymore.

Do more people experience something similar? Who ordered a device already?

they get the source code from the developer of the driver and make there own for mac.

still no reviews of this thing?

strange

I think that either a mod should close this thread and move all the posts to the one in the Front Page Area or close the one in the Front Page Area and move all of them here, because it is very confusing having 2 threads for the same thing.

Mr Mook Mook

thats true mrmookmook