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erei33
Sorry, I know that I'm a bit late to post this.
An explanation of how this works
Original thread by f41qu3 - report your discoveries and successes here.
Questions & problems go here
Developed a configuration that works? post it here for the next guy

QUOTE(f41qu3 @ Jun 30 2008, 04:17 PM) *
David Eliott has just released a new version of his modified boot-132 bootloader.
One of the new things it can do is to load kexts from an .img file which contains kexts (or even an mkext) and boot Leo.
That means you can have two mkexts, one folder with kexts on the .img file and the folder with kexts from your installed system
or even two folders with mkexts.
How does it work?

Basically, you create a flat dmg with the kexts in a folder and the bootloader will load them for you. This means quite a lot;
you can boot from a retail Leo DVD and install it, you can update straight from apple, you can reinstall and not have to add
the same kexts to your install every time. The bootloader behaves like the linux kernel: you can use an mboot (a patched syslinux
was used) compatible bootloader which tells to boot-dfe about the .img file (the ramdisk or initrd, as it's known by the linux users)
and boot-dfe is going to use the kexts (or mkext) from it.
What does it do?

This new boot-dfe has been tested with the retail Leopard DVD and it can boot, install and run Leopard without having to build
a modified DVD.

This is how it's done: you burn an ISO (which has the bootloader on it) to a CD/DVD, after it gets to the boot
prompt, you press ESC or ENTER and it prompts for a new BOOT DEVICE, you swap the BOOT CD/DVD with the LEO Retail DVD, you press
enter and it shows you the name of the bootable partition from the DVD, you press enter and Leo starts to load.


Quick resume about "oh, what to do now?"

#1 - Burn .iso on a CD;
#2 - Boot this CD;
#3 - When Darwin prompt appear, eject CD and put Mac OS X Leopard Retail DVD;
#4 - Press enter (or -v and enter...wherever...)
#5 - After install, boot using CD boot again and install .kext needed...and usual files.
#6 - Done!


For the time being, you cannot have this bootloader on an USB stick and have it boot the Retail Leopard DVD. The reason why this
happens is related to the way the BIOS handles DVDs and optical media: there's no BOOT DEVICE associated with an optical drive
which the BIOS has not booted from. Basically, this is like the disk swap trick known to the PlayStation gamers.
You can already put this on an USB stick/CD/DVD and boot a vanilla install (vanilla= no added kext, no replaced kext on the partition).

As usual, this only works for compatible machines(that means you still can't boot a vanilla system on AMD, they need specialised patches).

What are you going to do in the future?

David Eliott said he'd merge some of the things from Chameleon into boot-dfe. Those involved in the development of Chameleon will merge
the support for ramdisks into Chameleon and more effort will go into making the distribution 100% legal.
Work might(read: should, in the very close future) also go into making Chameleon boot the Retail DVDs when loading the bootloader from the HDD.

User guide and link to the ISO

This ISO needs to be modded (add dsmos to the Extensions folder) in order to be able to boot Leo.

Credits for this go to:

David Eliott: for modding boot to allow us to boot from Retail Leopard DVDs;

Kabyl: for modding boot to allow the usage of a separate folder on the disk and merging features from Chameleon to boot-dfe-146;

bumby: for compiling syslinux and figuring out how to build the ISO

Download Original project kexts: http://www.mediafire.com/?uwd9dtttjfk

Download modified kexts: http://www.mediafire.com/?1ne1zbl4znv

Superhai Method to edit image: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=803725

STiCKpIN Method to boot from USB Stick (needs Windows): http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry805274

HMBT Auto-Patch for edit image: (Beta) http://homepage.mac.com/f41qu3/.Public/CDBoot_RC2.sh

Cheerz,

I find that the HMBT Auto-Patch method is the easiest to use. This is a huge milestone for the OSx86 project. After installing with this method 10.5.0-10.5.4 works perfectly wink.gif
For help or information, please post in the original thread by f41qu3.
FabricioGS
W00T! soldiers.gif thumbsup_anim.gif

Congrats David Eliott, Kabyl, bumby and everybody who worked on it!
3D mn
Very good news yoji.gif

EDIT: I booted retail on my non-core processor (Celeron D). See my signature for link smile.gif
blkhockeypro19
truely amazing. im speechless...
Dr. Dankenstein
lets see if this gives EFI-X a run for their money. im crackin some cold ones for this

Ahmad Farah
what that mean i can boot from the Original DVD ???????????
^_^
Very very interesting.
Khodi
This is very interesting, i am trying all methods now wink.gif . I need the Retail DVD sad.gif
sheeplover
wahh ... you can't be serious???? I did a full reinstall yesterday blink.gif wacko.gif sad.gif

Very good news ... now I'm going to reinstall once more ... but I have this feeling that I won't regret it ;-)



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Apple Freak
Perhaps that's how EFI-X works! (That's only a guess)
Anyway that is a good news to every Intel users

Sorry for AMD guys (including me)
vailancer
wow just reinstall few hours ago.. lol guess need to reinstall again..
so everytime we wanted to boot leopard need that cd again?
The Master
I don't really see how anyone who has installed (and is running) successfully before can benefit at all from this method, or others... the most they could give you is a clear method to update without hassle, but that's about it?
erei33
QUOTE(The Master @ Jul 5 2008, 08:57 AM) *
I don't really see how anyone who has installed (and is running) successfully before can benefit at all from this method, or others... the most they could give you is a clear method to update without hassle, but that's about it?

Taking any update with no worries seems like a pretty big 'it' to me wink.gif
Dr. Dankenstein
QUOTE(The Master @ Jul 5 2008, 08:57 AM) *
I don't really see how anyone who has installed (and is running) successfully before can benefit at all from this method, or others... the most they could give you is a clear method to update without hassle, but that's about it?


I think the really big deal is we no longer have to rely on hacked DVDs, instead we can download a small iso image, burn it, and boot it, then boot the real dvd, thats the point! not to mention if updates can be done like regular Macs this could be what the community has hoped for. imagine running a hackintosh that behaved and updated more like a macintosh? doesnt that appeal to you on any level? or do u prefer waiting in line for hte next big 4 gb torrent to hit the web to safely install an update and get new kexts with out have to search the wasteland that is the internet?
NSCXP2005
Can somebody make a guide of how to get this to install on intel laptops, a step by step would be cool, how to get the kexts and other files needed.

How would we go about adding drivers like Intel 950GMA?

Also would be great if the file could be added under windows, then put on a USB stick.

I hope somebody can help.

NSCXP2005
HackBook Pro
This is awesome news. Now I gotta get some money, and buy a retail copy of Leopard tongue.gif
Hecabe
Ok's's... here's a videos booting Leopard Retail after installing Retail in HD IDE/ATA with USB and Boot-132...
Thank's David Eliott... and all people...

A Video Tutorial:

Video Tutorial to use 132 in HD Partition (HFS+) or USB (HFS+)

An example's booting:

Video Boot-132 USB in Leopard Retail

Install Retail Metod in HD IDE/ATA with other Mac And USB Boot-132 (same as other video) Please choose HD in Youtube

Cheers...
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(sorry my speak English...)
Iced Angel
jizzzz !! sounds very interesting but it's very complicated huh.gif
JaS
Finally smile.gif anyone else looking forward to no more patched dvds ... I know I am. Great work. I am just waiting for this to work off a usb stick tongue.gif
Sabr
QUOTE(JaS @ Jul 7 2008, 12:21 AM) *
Finally smile.gif anyone else looking forward to no more patched dvds ... I know I am. Great work. I am just waiting for this to work off a usb stick tongue.gif


Er... It already does, doesn't it?

QUOTE
STiCKpIN Method to boot from USB Stick (needs Windows): http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry805274
JaS
QUOTE(Sabr @ Jul 6 2008, 07:28 PM) *
Er... It already does, doesn't it?


Maybe it does, I was away for the weekend. Says windows, anyone set up a method for os x. No windows here.
Sabr
QUOTE(JaS @ Jul 7 2008, 12:34 AM) *
Maybe it does, I was away for the weekend. Says windows, anyone set up a method for os x. No windows here.


Sure.

These are the files you need for using it on a USB Disk. I haven't actually tried it myself, but it should work. If it doesn't, let me know.

http://rapidshare.com/files/127729423/OSx8...skFiles.zip.htm
thefinalprophecy
posting in an epic thread biggrin.gif Can't wait to try this out myself.
Bearcat
QUOTE(Sabr @ Jul 6 2008, 07:59 PM) *
Sure.

These are the files you need for using it on a USB Disk. I haven't actually tried it myself, but it should work. If it doesn't, let me know.

http://rapidshare.com/files/127729423/OSx8...skFiles.zip.htm


I must agree with JaS here, no more downloading patched dvds to try on different systems, would be a huge advance for this project.

Things must be aligning themselves nicely for me.

First, Kabyl creates a corrected bios for my 4Core1600Twins-P35 ASRock motherboard, so that all cores can be used, and I don't have to boot with CPUS=1. Gotta try this soon, thanks Kabyl.

Second, This new boot-132 with separately stored and loaded kexts, to boot and install a retail dvd, very nice, thanks to the devs for this.

Third, The ability to put this on a flash drive to boot the system, or use chameleon to boot the native install, and move your kexts over to the hard drive, and not use the flash drive.

All in all, awesome, thanks to all

NSCXP2005
could somebody make an extensive guide on how it get this working, what are the most important kexts to use with the boot loader and how to add extra kexts.

What are the advantages of chameleon?
TKiet
I must say, impressive work! I wonder if it can also be done with our old famous OSX Tiger which had started it all, and same going with Snow Leopard to be released. Has anyone tried it with the retail Tiger, or even the beta Snow Leopard?
Hecabe
QUOTE(TKiet @ Jul 7 2008, 03:15 PM) *
I must say, impressive work! I wonder if it can also be done with our old famous OSX Tiger which had started it all, and same going with Snow Leopard to be released. Has anyone tried it with the retail Tiger, or even the beta Snow Leopard?

In Snow, maybe needs other dsmos.kext
I had a Kernel Panic with USB Boot-132 in Snow...

but in Leopard DVD Retail, and After Upate Works perfectly...

Cheers...

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MAC PC GUY
I am semi-new to leopard, and mac, and apple as of Dec. 2007. i took a leap and bought me a MacBook Pro with leopard having never used anything mac related before. I was STUPID to not do this before. smile.gif I love Leopard now. however, although i have been a windows user (curse words i know) since before windows even existed and i know a lot of the tricks to windows, i dont know many to leopard or mac platforms. Having said that,......here's my problem

I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 with Intel Centrino Duo processor. i have tried using the IATKOS ISO with no luck, i have tried as of yesterday using the KALYWAY ISO with no luck, and have now found this BOOT-132 stuff and it almost works for me. I NEED SOME HELP. i love experimenting with this stuff and i want to put leopard on my PC probably for the same reason most of you want too. I just want to do it. that and i love leopard, which we've already established. When i follow the instructions that are listed at the beginning of this forum, i have trouble the moment the grey screen with the apple logo appears. it reboots instantly every time. next round i may use a -v and it goes a long ways and eventually gets to a grey screen with no logo, and an almost stuck, ever so horribly slow beach ball, and a system that just stops responding. I let it sit for more than an hour tonight and no luck. I haven't got beyond this. Using the kalyway disk, i actually get to the point where i can use the disk utility and it starts installing. i get to 'about one minute' left on the progress bar and it eventually says install failed.

I did not buy a retail DVD BUT i did get a "recovery DVD" from apple with my MBPro, however, trouble one day led them to send me a OSX 2 Disk Install set for leopard. and this is what i'm trying to use with the BOOT-132 disk. Does anyone know if this is a No NO for some reason. i assume its just like a retail set with a different label. but like i said, i'm still semi new at this stuff.

Any info that could help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
shaanky98
QUOTE(Sabr @ Jul 7 2008, 12:59 AM) *
Sure.

These are the files you need for using it on a USB Disk. I haven't actually tried it myself, but it should work. If it doesn't, let me know.

http://rapidshare.com/files/127729423/OSx8...skFiles.zip.htm


I have tried these files but they seem not to be working for me. Is there a special way of extracting them to the USB Disk?

Also I have tried the generic CD,


after swapping the discs and pressing enter, I can't seem to find the DVD drive, 80 to 83 gives me my 4 SATA HDDs. So I tried 84 and nothing is happening. Is it because my DVD drive is IDE?

For the Specs ref: Signature
f41qu3
QUOTE(JaS @ Jul 6 2008, 08:21 PM) *
Finally smile.gif anyone else looking forward to no more patched dvds ... I know I am. Great work. I am just waiting for this to work off a usb stick tongue.gif
Hey JaS, finally vacation huh :PFor help and doubts use original thread: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=113288Thanx.
Sabr
QUOTE(shaanky98 @ Jul 8 2008, 12:01 PM) *
I have tried these files but they seem not to be working for me. Is there a special way of extracting them to the USB Disk?

Also I have tried the generic CD,
after swapping the discs and pressing enter, I can't seem to find the DVD drive, 80 to 83 gives me my 4 SATA HDDs. So I tried 84 and nothing is happening. Is it because my DVD drive is IDE?


80...83 are the boot device numbers for your hard disks. 9f is what you must type to boot the DVD. wink.gif
Templeton Peck
Let me see if I have this right:

(1) This gives users the ability to add extensions for unsupported hardware from an alternate source

(2) Better-matching kexts can be loaded in leu of some of Apple's troublesome unsupported kexts, namely the infamous AppleCPUPowerManagement.

(3) AFAIK, DontStealMacOS.kext must be removed for dsmos.kext to work. Does this eliminate the need for removing DontStealMacOS, or is that already somehow handled by Chameleon?
shaanky98
QUOTE(Sabr @ Jul 8 2008, 04:00 PM) *
80...83 are the boot device numbers for your hard disks. 9f is what you must type to boot the DVD. wink.gif


Thanks Sabr
I guess the Leopard OS X DVD (7.50GB) I got from the green demon is not the retail one then, because 9f seems not to be working as well.

J o e l
try pressing enter
Bronya
My DVD Original Snow leo 10.6 work ! My system 10.6 work from boot_132 .
Click to view attachment

How ?

Jash Sayani
Finally, No more modified OS !
Euthenics
Congratulations. This is a milestone for all those who hunger for Mac OS X.
rualive
QUOTE(erei33 @ Jul 4 2008, 09:50 PM) *
Sorry, I know that I'm a bit late to post this.
An explanation of how this works
Original thread by f41qu3

I find that the HMBT Auto-Patch method is the easiest to use. This is a huge milestone for the OSx86 project. After installing with this method 10.5.0-10.5.4 works perfectly wink.gif
For help or information, please post in the original thread by f41qu3.



Why did this work for me 1 week ago and now it will not get past 1 second of apple screen. Updated all the way through 10.5.4. Installed Ubuntu with vista on another hd. Tried to load chain in grub for leopard. After that would not boot from the boot disk. Cleaned both drives and it would not reinstall after that either. What happened?
rampage96
soldiers.gif

Pretty good stuff here!
NSCXP2005
QUOTE(shaanky98 @ Jul 8 2008, 12:01 PM) *
I have tried these files but they seem not to be working for me. Is there a special way of extracting them to the USB Disk?

Also I have tried the generic CD,


after swapping the discs and pressing enter, I can't seem to find the DVD drive, 80 to 83 gives me my 4 SATA HDDs. So I tried 84 and nothing is happening. Is it because my DVD drive is IDE?

For the Specs ref: Signature


Hi Mate,

did you manage to get it working? I typed 9f but it doesn't boot from the install dvd, I have the boot 132 on a USB stick.

Please can you help
pinky
System config file '/com.apple.boot.S/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist' not found
what? wacko.gif
Sabr
QUOTE(shaanky98 @ Jul 8 2008, 05:54 PM) *
Thanks Sabr
I guess the Leopard OS X DVD (7.50GB) I got from the green demon is not the retail one then, because 9f seems not to be working as well.


The 2 digit boot device ID isn't determined on what DVD you use. As xfidelity said, just press enter when it asks for the boot device ID.
NSCXP2005
I have booted up the boot loader from USB and I got to the screen that asks for the bot device ID,
I have pressed Enter but all it shows is the main drive ID, and wll not boot the Retail DVD.

Please can you help Sabr.

NSCXP2005
Sabr
QUOTE(NSCXP2005 @ Jul 10 2008, 07:46 AM) *
I have booted up the boot loader from USB and I got to the screen that asks for the bot device ID,
I have pressed Enter but all it shows is the main drive ID, and wll not boot the Retail DVD.

Please can you help Sabr.

NSCXP2005


Type 9f when it asks for the boot device ID...
NSCXP2005
Hi sabr,

I typed 9f and then enter at the darwin boot prompt, but all I get is the Apple logo screen and nothing happens, it just sits there.

Any ideas what is wrong?
Sabr
After typing 9f/enter, press F8 when it asks for boot options, and type -v then press enter. Tell us what's wrong... And if you have any more problems, use this topic: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=114651
overflow1972
.....if you have the apple logo and nothing else, maybe you have something wrong with the kexts inside the cd you used for the boot.

regards
f41qu3
What difference from this topic and http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=113288

Think same thread. If is same, I reques close this (because two same threads and this here has only 3 pages and there has 13).

smile.gif
Hagar
QUOTE(f41qu3 @ Jul 10 2008, 02:21 PM) *
What difference from this topic and http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=113288

Think same thread. If is same, I reques close this (because two same threads and this here has only 3 pages and there has 13).

smile.gif


um, this one is the front page edition.. The main one in news & updates is for progress & information, there is also an italian one with the same title, and one for help, and one for resources.. this way things stay somewhat sorted & separated to avoid the endless mess of questions, suggestions, requests, files and guides all mixed up in 1 thread smile.gif

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QUOTE(f4lqu3)
Good to advertise about ask for help there? smile.gif


Good call, f4lqu3, first post updated.

Original thread by f41qu3 - report your discoveries and successes here.
Questions & problems go here
Developed a configuration that works? post it here for the next guy
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